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Does the Mild Omicron Strain Signal the End of the Covid Pandemic? Will the World Return to Normal?

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I heard the new strain Omicron is mild and similar to a regular flu. Is that so? If so doesn't that mean the pandemic is almost over? Because the Spanish Flu of 1918 also ended with a mild strain at the end too. So doesn't that signal the end of this pandemic?

It seems history is repeating itself since the last big pandemic of 1918 was a century ago. Kind of like how the Lincoln-Kennedy synchronicities and similarities are too striking and occurred a century apart too. So it's a sign that history repeats itself, which many ancient religions like Hinduism have always said.
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December 28th, 2021, 1:31 pm
I heard the new strain Omicron is mild and similar to a regular flu. Is that so? If so doesn't that mean the pandemic is almost over? Because the Spanish Flu of 1918 also ended with a mild strain at the end too. So doesn't that signal the end of this pandemic?
Maybe true - in Japan and South Korea there is about the same opinion, this Omicron covid-19 might be the last wave, back to normal however will take up to end of 2022. One year more.

Milder or not is difficult to say yet - in Japan most people are vaccinated not only against covid-19 2 x shot, but also against seasonal flu and pneumonia, today totally in all Japan only 49 people are in ICU, considered to be seriously ill with covid-19, most of them NOT vaccinated for whatever reason. Very few people die now because of covid-19 in Japan, but many complain about their long lasting recovery.

In all Japan totally 2125 people so far are confirmed as covid-19 positive and in isolation. Not so many considering that Japan as 126 million people.

Still the number of patients is INCREASING slowly every day, and despite low number of international arrivals, today 103 people were found to be positive on arrival and sent straight from airport to isolation.
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Omicron is mild. It's so mild that 1 in 2 cases of common cold symptoms test positive for it.

It seems there will still be some spike in hospitalizations in places, but less than there was with delta. And if that means cross-immunity with other strains, which is looking probable, then yeah, this will spell the end of the pandemic. Getting this weak-ass variant will be better than any vaccine. Thus the half-joke that the FDA should approve the Omicron covid variant as a treatment for covid.

However, just because the pandemic will end for the rest of us doesn't mean that it will end for evil politicians....
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/front-line-p ... 10656.html

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Front-line workers describe symptoms they've observed in latest Covid wave

Thu, December 30, 2021, 12:29 AM

Physicians around the country facing the latest surge of Covid-19 cases, driven by the highly contagious omicron variant, have a straightforward message based on what they're seeing in their emergency rooms: Vaccinations and boosters are having a positive effect.

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Dr. Joseph Varon, chief of critical care services and the Covid-19 unit at Houston’s United Memorial Medical Center, said of the roughly 50 patients admitted to the hospital’s Covid unit in the last four weeks, 100 percent of them were unvaccinated.

He said patients who needed to be admitted typically have “shortness of breath, high fevers, being dehydrated like crazy.” He said those who are unvaccinated also “have more illness. What I mean by more illness is more pneumonia, not just a little bit of pneumonia, you have a lot of pneumonia.”

“The people that are coming in unvaccinated have a much larger burden of illness in the lungs than those who are vaccinated,” he said.

Meanwhile, those who had received the booster shot were “almost back to normal” within several days, he said. Those who had not received the booster have tended to “still feel sick after a week, a week and a half or so,” he added.

Patients who have received the booster shot may still have symptoms such as a sore throat, a lot of fatigue and muscle pain, said Dr. Craig Spencer, director of global health in emergency medicine at New York-Presbyterian/Columbia University Medical Center. Those who are vaccinated but have not got the booster “looked worse, they looked like they felt pretty darn bad. But, again, they didn’t need to be hospitalized,” he said.

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Meanwhile, Spencer said almost every patient he has seen who needed to be admitted was unvaccinated.
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December 30th, 2021, 11:11 am
Omicron is mild. It's so mild that 1 in 2 cases of common cold symptoms test positive for it

It seems there will still be some spike in hospitalizations in places, but less than there was with delta. And if that means cross-immunity with other strains, which is looking probable, then yeah, this will spell the end of the pandemic. Getting this weak-ass variant will be better than any vaccine.
For unvaccinated patients this new omicron is not always so mild, and might result in severe pneumonia.
In Japan the clear majority, about 10+ vs. 1 with severe health issues after being infected with any form of covid-19 is unvaccinated.

However I am not sure, if this is only because of the corona Pfizer vaccination or because these Japanese patients (especially those 65+) are in general also vaccinated yearly against seasonal flu with an updated booster shot and against pneumonia (1x in 5 years).

Nobody is forced however to accept any vaccination in Japan, for seasonal flu and pneumonia you have to pay a part of it out of your own wallet, about USD 20,- for seasonal flu and about USD 90,- for pneumonia vaccine (1 x in 5 years) - This year only covid-19 vaccine 2 x was totally free of charge.
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December 30th, 2021, 10:03 pm
For unvaccinated patients this new omicron is not always so mild, and might result in severe pneumonia.
In Japan the clear majority, about 10+ vs. 1 with severe health issues after being infected with any form of covid-19 is unvaccinated.
Happy New Fear to you too.

Curiously, I'm hearing reports alleging the exact the opposite of what's in that news article--that it is the fully vaccinated who are filling up hospitals! Different hospitals must be getting radically different patients coming in, or else someone out there isn't telling the truth.

But let's assume that the perspective in the above article is the correct one.

Okay. I think we can agree that there is low risk of becoming a patient in the first place unless one is in a category such as being old, overweight, or having cancer, diabetes, or other co-morbidities. The vaccines should only ever have been recommended to such categories, and that with sober warning of potential adverse effects both known and unknown.

As for normal healthy people, they have little to fear from this variant especially. If you're no more likely to become an Omicron patient than a common cold patient, you don't need a vax for it, and in fact it could hurt more than help. Ask nurses all over the world blowing the whistle on the damage they're seeing in patients who have taken covid vaccines. Blood clots, cardiac arrests, strokes, vision loss, encephalopathy, deep vien thrombosis, and a lot more, not including possible long-terms effects we can't know for sure. Our health agencies themselves have listed dozens of adverse effects they suspect the vaccines cause, some of which we may not be able to confirm until a decade later.

Additionally, some of these victims of vaccines are being gaslit by doctors, reporters, and sometimes their own family. The actual number of adverse reactions is likely much higher than what we are able to glean from self-reporting in conjunction with the stories emerging from workers in the field risking their careers to speak out about it.

Besides which, the benefit of these "vaccines"--which I'd rather call "symptom suppressants"--wears off after a few months while natural immunity both lasts longer AND is orders of magnitude stronger, so if you're a normal healthy person aren't you better off just catching Omicron and getting over it? Like, the same as you've done with countless other colds and flus?

It's easy to get the wrong impression from some of these news articles that the average person is in grave danger unless vaxxed, this being the type of fear certain interests wish the public to ceaselessly imbibe, precisely because the mass vaccination racket relies on it.
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Yohan wrote:
December 29th, 2021, 10:10 pm
Winston wrote:
December 28th, 2021, 1:31 pm
I heard the new strain Omicron is mild and similar to a regular flu. Is that so? If so doesn't that mean the pandemic is almost over? Because the Spanish Flu of 1918 also ended with a mild strain at the end too. So doesn't that signal the end of this pandemic?
Maybe true - in Japan and South Korea there is about the same opinion, this Omicron covid-19 might be the last wave, back to normal however will take up to end of 2022. One year more.

Milder or not is difficult to say yet - in Japan most people are vaccinated not only against covid-19 2 x shot, but also against seasonal flu and pneumonia, today totally in all Japan only 49 people are in ICU, considered to be seriously ill with covid-19, most of them NOT vaccinated for whatever reason. Very few people die now because of covid-19 in Japan, but many complain about their long lasting recovery.

In all Japan totally 2125 people so far are confirmed as covid-19 positive and in isolation. Not so many considering that Japan as 126 million people.

Still the number of patients is INCREASING slowly every day, and despite low number of international arrivals, today 103 people were found to be positive on arrival and sent straight from airport to isolation.
But Bill Gates said that the world will not return to normal until everyone in the world gets vaccinated. That's a never ending war and campaign isn't it? That's a scary thing for him to say, it's as if he is declaring an eternal neverending war, because there's no way you can vaccinate 100 percent of everyone in the world. That sounds like a pretext to create an artificial war. Very scary.
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Is this true?

http://www.apneaboard.com/forums/Thread ... #pid427608
WWu777 Wrote:
I heard the new strain Omicron is mild and similar to a regular flu. Is that so? If so doesn't that mean the pandemic is almost over? Because the Spanish Flu of 1918 also ended with a mild strain at the end too. So doesn't that signal the end of this pandemic?
"That is indeed how it looks. This is the normal evolutionary path for viruses - becoming more contagious but less deadly - and many doctors and scientists outside of the medical cartel forecast this last year, well before Omicron appeared.

But, needless to say, power-hungry governments around the world are saying it's too early to tell whether Omicron is indeed less dangerous, despite having tons of data all pointing toward optimism. In other words, they want to keep the panic going so that maintaining their extraordinary 'emergency powers' can be justified and more people forced to vaccinate. I have no doubt they're hoping for some more deaths and/or for somebody to come up with a devious ploy to spin Omicron as the new plague. If only more unvaccinated people would die ...

Either way though, our slide into dictatorial rule by the elites and their socialist fellow travelers will continue. If/when Covid finally melts away, I have no doubt that we will return to catastrophic forecasts of climate doom, which can be averted in the same way as Covid - more and more rules and regulations limiting ordinary people's freedom while the elites carry on as though it doesn't apply to them. Same end, different means."
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I split off this topic into a new one because the subject has changed.

So what does the CDC and CNN puppets say about Omicron? Do they report good news about it? Or are they still trying to scare you?
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Winston wrote:
January 2nd, 2022, 1:16 pm
I split off this topic into a new one because the subject has changed.

So what does the CDC and CNN puppets say about Omicron? Do they report good news about it? Or are they still trying to scare you?
Omicron is what would have happened anyway, if the world hadn't gone bat ballistic on prolonged lockdowns, forced vaccinations and other mass economy (and mass psyche!) destroying measures.

Now that we have a strain that is milder than cold and Covid is about to disappear, as every other flu-like pathogen in the history of humanity, we will see what kind of excuses our world governments will make, to continue spreading panic and applying those draconian measures.

As they say in the UK, they will keep pushing until we push back.
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Ghost told me the lockdowns will never end because its about a great reset, not a virus. What do you think?

Ghost:
"Because the lockdowns are about the reset, not controlling a virus. The reset is what the global power elite are trying to pull off because of the energy crunch (we're at post peak oil - and it's much worse than it sounds.) The financial system is failing because the cheap energy era is over. And capitalism/neoliberalism or whatever you want to call it needs perpetual growth. But that's impossible on this finite planet.

It only gets worse from here on out. "
I dont understand how a lockdown will bring about a great reset? Especially since governments are handing out money so people dont starve. Plus america is back to normal right? You can go out without a face mask.

If the world recovered from the spanish flu of 1918 then why cant it recover from this pandemic? The 1920s were a roaring boom remember? Its called the roaring 20s.

Dont forget the saying "its always darkest before the dawn". What goes down must come up. The heros journey motif and archetype also guarantees that the world will be reborn anew and resurrect. Every movie and story and legend encodes the heros journey archetype. Haven't u read Joseph Campbell or Carl Jung?

Some things are getting better in the world. No one is burned at the stake anymore. And information flows freely. No one burns books anymore. Theres a lot less war and violence now. Modern men are pussies. The elites plans to start world war 3 failed. So many things are better now than before.

Also the USA always recovers from economic recessions right? People have been predicting a global crash for a long time. Like Taco. It never happens.
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January 2nd, 2022, 1:12 pm
But Bill Gates said that the world will not return to normal until everyone in the world gets vaccinated. That's a never ending war and campaign isn't it? That's a scary thing for him to say, it's as if he is declaring an eternal neverending war, because there's no way you can vaccinate 100 percent of everyone in the world. That sounds like a pretext to create an artificial war. Very scary.
I dont know exactly what he said, but I can only guess, covid-19 in future will create variants similar to the Spanish flu, which is still around as the seasonal flu and harmless worldwide. If you want to be protected against seasonal flu, you need every year an updated booster shot.

In case you want to be protected against covid-19 too in future, after it declines to a harmless illness you will need updated booster shots every year for sure.

In Japan pharma industry thinks the updated booster against covid-19 in future will be oral and not by needle - maybe available within one year already, now working on it.

The problem is more about that some governments want to force people to be vaccinated and this is causing resistance by anti-vaxxers.
The Japanese government has no power to force individuals into vaccination or into lockdown like in China.

Here in Japan it is clearly up to you - you are showing up for vaccination, this is OK - and you are not coming, this is OK too.
Medical staff has many other things to do, it's not only about covid-19, nobody cares if you come or not.

However many are coming and elderly people are in some areas 93.6 % vaccinated against covid-19.
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I don't understand something. The Philippines announced that to prevent the spread of Omicron, they are not allowing unvaccinated people to enter many malls, restaurants, and bars. They can only sit in outdoor seating areas and venues. Why? If Omicron is harmless like a normal flu or cold, then why are they taking such drastic measures? Didn't anyone tell the Philippines government about the harmless variant?

I also heard the US government is giving the Philippines government free money and aid to maintain the pandemic, so to keep the gravy train going, the Philippines government doesn't want the pandemic to end. Is that true? If so, why doesn't the US end the aid and maintain some control over it? Especially since the US must know that any money they send there goes into the pocket of corrupt government bureaucrats, and not to the people. Right? The US government isn't that dumb right?

I don't get the logic in any of this. I'm like an alien on Earth, like in all those sci fi movies where an alien comes to Earth and expects everything to be logical and doesn't understand the illogical nature of everything on Earth. lol
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Spain calls for Covid to be treated as a regular flu. That's good news. When will all other countries follow suit? Such as Asia and Italy which are super paranoid about it?

https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/2 ... d-like-flu
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Winston wrote:
February 20th, 2022, 12:36 pm
Spain calls for Covid to be treated as a regular flu. That's good news. When will all other countries follow suit? Such as Asia and Italy which are super paranoid about it?

https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/2 ... d-like-flu
The Italian authorities know there are still lots of money to be made (in bribes) from pushing for a prolonged Green Pass and possibly a compulsory yearly jab.
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