Pixel--Dude wrote: ↑July 2nd, 2023, 4:27 am
I disagree with some of your assessments on suicide. Especially the karmic notions of suicide that there are certain obstacles the soul wants to overcome etc. Our worldviews are pretty similar, as we've always shared philosophical ideas and such, but in this sense I would argue that a lot of obstacles one has to overcome are imposed from outside influences. Financial issues drive people to suicide, these are imposed by a system of cutthroat capitalist pigs! I could not see my soul entering a contract with these subhuman monsters for the experience of suffering destitution.
I draw quite a bit of my own philosophy from Hinduism and other spiritual currents, but honestly anything to do with karmic debt just strikes me as a deterrent for suicide. It's just a convenient argument to stop people topping themselves. I'm not arguing in favour of suicide by the way. Just saying the "prarabdha karma" doesn't resonate well with me when several people face such unfavourable circumstances imposed upon them by an evil elite! That same elite have lives of luxury and its clear their souls are reptilian and evil. Perhaps at one time in antiquity, and under the natural order this could have been true, but I think our modern world is far from natural.
I'm not saying that
prarabdha karma or
self-karma necessarily resonate with me. I already suspect that the doctrine of karma itself is a fabrication concocted by Brahmanical priests towards the end of the Vedic period (during the time in which the earliest Upanishads were composed) for the purpose of social control and then subsequently adopted into the various orthodox Hindu philosophies as well as some of the Shramana traditions such as Buddhism and Jainism. Therefore, the doctrine of karma doesn't really figure into my own worldview. I even find the notion somewhat sadistic.
However, if I am completely honest with myself, I cannot know that my own worldview is correct for sure. Nobody can. As a truth seeker, I sometimes consider the possibility of other worldviews that differ from my own. I ask about the implications and how they would affect the way people should live their lives. The topic of obstacles and difficulties in life is the same. If it turns out that certain personalized obstacles and difficulties that we each face are indeed the result of something akin to
prarabdha karma or serve as lessons willingly chosen as part of our own individual lifeplan for the purpose of growth through the overcoming of challenges, then obviously suicide would be an extremely negative option because it would completely mess up such lessons and one would have to restart the whole process again in another incarnation.
I often wonder about the metaphysical reasons for the prominent difficulties and sources of dissatisfaction in my own life such as the limitations that I experience due to autism, having been born into a culture which really doesn't suit me at all and which I completely detest (this in turn causes me to experience a high degree of alienation as well as self-hatred), my body dysphoria (alleviated only through use of Melanotan), etc.
Did we simply incarnate on the run being pursued by archons on the astral plane and accepting whatever incarnations were available despite all of their shortcomings?
Did the Vedic rishis really glimpse some deeper metaphysical truth about reality in the form of
prarabdha karma and the various things that I hate about my own life are simply a manifestation of old karmas that I need to burn off?
Did I perhaps choose those difficult circumstances as self-karma as a self-accepted obstacle to overcome and thereby progress to the next level of soul evolution as some modern spiritual philosophies teach?
Of course, here I'm just hypothetically considering different possibilities.
I agree that the system that we live in is grotesque and that many of the problems that we face are imposed on us by an evil elite which has consciously conspired to turn our world into its own dystopian playground. Nevertheless, I have to wonder about my own deeply personal problems previously mentioned. Why am I affected by them? Why did I have to develop autism? Why was I born into a culture that's just not right for me and which I can't even stand? Such questions sometimes make me think about what if notions of
prarabdha karma or
self-karma have some degree of truth.
But overall I agree with your analysis. In fact, I distanced myself from The Michael Teachings, a channeled body of information which I came to embrace in 2012 during the initial phase of my spiritual seeking and from which I learned the concepts of soul age and self-karma, precisely because the purported channelers ignore or even deny the existence of a global conspiracy. Instead they tell us that King Charles is a level-whatever old soul server while Gandhi was a transcendental soul occupying a human body from a higher plane to impart noble teachings when in reality King Charles is nothing more than one of the evil architects behind the Great Reset and Gandhi is now known to have been a stooge of the British and a sexual pervert. I left The Michael Teachings after I learned more about the New World Order and the Kabbalistic elite which strives for world domination and universal Gentile enslavement.
As of now, I still remain a rebellious soul who doesn't trust any higher entities or their doctrines. However, that doesn't mean that I don't consider all possible theories, at least hypothetically.
Pixel--Dude wrote: ↑July 2nd, 2023, 4:27 am
As for suicide being damaging for the soul, how does it really differ from any other method of death? A family would be equally devastated by someone they love getting murdered, dying of disease or an accident. Think of smokers and heavy drinkers, people who consistently eat shit and don't exercise and then get fat. Isn't their lifestyle essentially just a slow suicide? If they die of cancer due to smoking all their life. Or a drunken accident. Diabetes etc, couldn't we argue that their deaths were also self inflicted? Hanging and a gunshot to the head is just more sudden and deliberate. But aside from intentionally cutting short your experiences here in the material realm (which we both agree is one of the main purposes of life. To grow and experience in the realm of action) is there any actual difference to shooting yourself and someone else shooting you in terms of damage to the soul? Both are equally a violent transition.
This one is for a few others here. Why do you think the elite promote the idea of suicide to kids? Is it because Lucas could be right and suicide could actually hinder the soul in some way? This just seems pretty nefarious and evil to me
I don't know whether suicide damages the soul. My assumption is that it doesn't since the cause of death is just the same as getting shot in the head, strangled or run over by a train with the only difference being that the fatal wounds were self-inflicted. My only concern was that suicide might cause a lot of frustration for the soul by messing up its lifeplan or create some extremely negative energetic ties (if karma is actually real).
As for why the elites might want to push suicide onto people including kids, we both know by now that the NWO has a depopulation agenda. They want to reduce the global population to a fraction of its present size through infertility-inducing toxins, the Covaids vaccines, antinatalism, and the progressive promotion of LGBT and non-binary identities (incidentally also aggressively promoted to children). Advanced robotics and AI are now here and are expected to continue to evolve exponentially in the next few decades. The elites no longer need high numbers of Goyim worker slaves and would therefore prefer for the majority of them to die off.
