Blacks and IQ

[SilverEnergy]

I'm still not done with you yet, here's a brief history of black chess grandmasters: http://www.thechessdrum.net/historicmom ... lackChess/

[Moretorque]

I'm still not done with you yet, here's a brief history of black chess grandmasters: http://www.thechessdrum.net/historicmom ... lackChess/

Just being better and more talented at sports and Dancing with the Stars is not enough for you?

[SilverEnergy]

Black man invented digital cell phone technology:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yO2RmkWQ5NY

[Contrarian Expatriate]

Yes, blacks do have an lower IQ on average. No matter how many suspect examples you can post on this thread, that is true.

HOWEVER, what most people don't realize is that IQ is not set at birth. One can change his or her IQ with formal education and intellectual pursuits, things that are seldom highly-valued among black Americans.

[Attorney at Large]

Yes, blacks do have an lower IQ on average. No matter how many suspect examples you can post on this thread, that is true.

HOWEVER, what most people don't realize is that IQ is not set at birth. One can change his or her IQ with formal education and intellectual pursuits, things that are seldom valued highly among black Americans.

Right and lower it as well. Just becasue one has a lower IQ, it doesn't prevent them from accomplishing great things, I mean just look at Forest Gump.

High IQ's can cause serious problems...look at what many Jews have done though manipulating the weak minded using the media and Hollywood.

[RedMenace]

Do you even know what IQ measures? IQ doesn't measure creativity and intelligence. I simply measures how well schooled a person is. Raise a black child in the stable environment white or asian children are raised and you will see that he performs well in IQ tests. You cant compare a black child raised in the ghetto or unstable single parent family with an asian or white child raised in a stable two parent family and neighbourhood. It's an illogical comparison.

[Moretorque]

Look with the net all standardized testing of normalcy for intelligence is out, people who are curious about the world around them brains are taking off with the net. Right now with the net we are all taking a IQ test and the people who are interested in learning new things are and the idiots who aren't are staying in idiotville.

The people who are on the net who's knowledge is not growing are mentally handicapped.

[Cornfed]

Do you even know what IQ measures?

General intelligence.

IQ doesn't measure creativity and intelligence. I simply measures how well schooled a person is. Raise a black child in the stable environment white or asian children are raised and you will see that he performs well in IQ tests. You cant compare a black child raised in the ghetto or unstable single parent family with an asian or white child raised in a stable two parent family and neighbourhood. It's an illogical comparison.

Many IQ tests successfully correlate with blood glucose through the brain, EEG readings, performance in practical tasks etc. There is no doubt that they are a somewhat valid measure and the reason blacks test as being of inferior intelligence is that they are of inferior intelligence.

[Teal Lantern]

Yaa but would you want to watch football and basketball with a bunch uncoordinated whites trippin all over themselves who move like in slow motion? You have got to give the blackman credit where it's due, they be sure can chase daa ball good.

Have you seen some of the old b-ball games, when the players were all white and before the shot-clock was introduced?

[Jeremy]

Cranial capacity (cubic centimeters)

American Blacks: 1,267
Whites: 1,347
East Asians: 1,364

Cortical neurons (millions)

American Blacks: 13,185
Whites: 13,665
East Asians: 13,767

IQ scores

American Blacks: 85
Whites: 100
East Asians: 106

[Moretorque]

Cranial capacity (cubic centimeters)

American Blacks: 1,267
Whites: 1,347
East Asians: 1,364

Cortical neurons (millions)

American Blacks: 13,185
Whites: 13,665
East Asians: 13,767

IQ scores

American Blacks: 85
Whites: 100
East Asians: 106

Where's the master of con and deception the Ashkenazi Jew?

[Moretorque]

Yaa but would you want to watch football and basketball with a bunch uncoordinated whites trippin all over themselves who move like in slow motion? You have got to give the blackman credit where it's due, they be sure can chase daa ball good.

Have you seen some of the old b-ball games, when the players were all white and before the shot-clock was introduced?

No, what does it look like visually compared to todays game? I have seen the old NFL stuff and it's like slow motion.

There is no comparison in speed, there are a handful of white guy's who are fast but compared to most blacks whitey be slow.

[Moretorque]

Do you even know what IQ measures?

General intelligence.

IQ doesn't measure creativity and intelligence. I simply measures how well schooled a person is. Raise a black child in the stable environment white or asian children are raised and you will see that he performs well in IQ tests. You cant compare a black child raised in the ghetto or unstable single parent family with an asian or white child raised in a stable two parent family and neighbourhood. It's an illogical comparison.

Many IQ tests successfully correlate with blood glucose through the brain, EEG readings, performance in practical tasks etc. There is no doubt that they are a somewhat valid measure and the reason blacks test as being of inferior intelligence is that they are of inferior intelligence.

Cornfed don't be so cruel, do you believe you are just a modified blackman?

[Contrarian Expatriate]

One of the sad facts I have learned in Africa is that the high incidence of Malaria in small children leads to cognitive impairment on a wide scale.

There is an intellectual elite in West Africa that rivals the abilities of elites in Europe and America, but these are folks with health care, treated bed nets, and houses that protect their children from malaria infection. Poor kids are not so fortunate and when they contract malaria like we do the common cold, it damages cognitive function in many cases.

The second factor is lack of cognitive development. When western families are reading to their children, poor African ones might be working to scrape together subsistence money. This keeps poor African behind at the time when the intellectual capacity window is open widest.

To attribute the intelligence differences to race is to oversimplify the issue in a very unintelligent way.

[ladislav]

Cornfed writes: "Expel them from technologically advanced societies. Where necessary impose discipline on them in more physical and direct terms than you would other races. In their own countries allow them to have traditional tribal systems geared to their needs rather than expecting them to be North Europeans with a tan."

I hear and read such appeals online often. Send this and that group back to where they came from. This is a logistical impossibility more than cruelty. It involves first and foremost the receiving country's consent. And that, in the modern world, has to do with citizenship.

Let's say some despotic leader in the US decided to "send blacks back to Africa". What African country would that be? As far as the immigration authorities in all those African countries are concerned, these people being sent to them are not "blacks"- they are Americans. And very few of them will issue residence visas for these Americans.

Some countries have laws of return such as Israel and I think Germany and Ireland. Japan also has such laws. But these are for people who are ethnically of that stock. There is no official country in Africa called " Blackia" which would extend such privilege to its lost sons.

The Liberian experiment in the 19th century was still in the time period when African nation states were either too weak, non existent or simply colonies of the West. That is no longer the case.

According to the international law, a British citizen who is black is a British citizen period and will be treated as such by any African country. Unless he qualifies as a dual national. That may be if his parents were Ghanaian or Nigerian, not if his "race" is "black". There is no black citizenship of any kind anywhere.

So, Cornfed, no go. Can't be done.

In addition, most black people in the US are of some 30 percent European blood. And in Africa, the one drop rule is reversed. Africans will see many US blacks as "white people". Same as Arabs see Jews coming from Europe as Europeans while Europeans saw them as Middle Eastern Semites.