Are white people subhuman? Your definitive guide to race and intelligence

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Are white people subhuman? Your definitive guide to race and intelligence

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New research suggests that Europeans are white because a small number of Neanderthals in northern Europe interbred with Europeans before the last ice age. European whites have 2-5% uniquely Neanderthal DNA. Apparently, red hair, green eyes, and negative blood all originated from Neanderthals. Neanderthals were a distinct species whose biological compatibility with modern humans from Africa was limited. From analysis of surviving neanderthal DNA in humans which is completely lacking large areas of the neanderthal DNA, it has been suggested that humans and Neanderthals were able to produce offspring, but that the male hybrids were infertile and female hybrids had very low fertility. This is identical to what we observe in hybrids between lions and tigers or horses and donkeys. It would also explain the extremely low proportion of Neanderthal genomes found in humans and their irregular distribution. But does this imply that Caucasian people are subhuman?

No, unfortunately, modern people are differing mixtures of multiple separate SPECIES of archaic humans. In other words, humans are all mongrels. Different traits vary more or less independently instead of clustering. There is a wide consensus that the racial categories that are common in everyday usage are socially constructed, and that racial groups cannot be biologically defined. Up to about a century ago, everyone in the United States and Britain who wrote about "race" assumed that the Irish were clearly a separate and inferior "race," as distinct from the obviously superior English. Today everyone who deals with "race" assumes that Irish and English are the same "race." Since the second half of the 20th century, the associations of race with the ideologies and theories that grew out of the work of 19th-century anthropologists and physiologists has led to the use of the word itself becoming even more problematic. It's a common fallacy for people to think "race" is synonymous with human variation/diversity, when it isn't whatsoever. The whole Caucasoid, Negroid, Mongoloid schemes is rooted in typology. The typological framework of delineating races in humans has no scientific or anthropological validity whatsoever and involves folk taxonomies based on perceived traits. Two animals are different species when they cannot produce fertile offspring with each other.

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All humans are in fact members of the same species and subspecies, i.e., the same race. White people belong to the same race as African humans because there is insufficient genetic differentiation between human populations to properly classify them into racial categories. The classification of humans into groups based on incidence and prevalence of phenotypical characteristics (the statistical probability of your ancestors' geographical origins) as evidence of "race" is scientifically absurd and should be phased out. Science illiterates are unaware that all phenotypes and alleles for them exist in all "races." Almost all humans share the same set of genes. varying populations, however, have varying proportions of active (expressed) genes as a result of long-term, geographically distributed selective pressures.(s).. For instance, the genes associated with dark hair are present in Asian populations, which include native Americans, but are also present in European populations, albeit at a reduced rate of activation. When genes are excessively or insufficiently expressed, distinct configurations emerge.

Another major problem with the typological model is that the number of "races" you end up with depends on the number and kinds of traits employed in the classification. The more traits used, the fewer people in the world there are who share them. For example, light skin color is considered to be a defining characteristic of Europeans. However, when you add the criteria of narrow noses, straight hair, and tall stature, many Europeans would be excluded altogether or the European racial category would have to be further subdivided into several smaller "races." Since the number of "races" can be so easily changed by the way they are defined, it is clear that they do not really exist as distinct biological groupings of people. Instead, they are arbitrary creations that reflect our ethnocentric views of ourselves and other people. They are mainly cultural rather than biological groupings.

A bit of history

The term race was first used to refer to speakers of a common language and then to denote national affiliations, by the 17th century race began to refer to physical (i.e. phenotypical) traits. The term was often used in a general biological taxonomic sense, starting from the 19th century, to denote what was believed to be genetically differentiated human populations defined by observable characteristics. However, scientists now consider biological essentialism obsolete, and generally discourage racial explanations for collective differentiation in both physical and behavioral traits. People who believe that we should treat "race" as subspecies fail to recognize, that if that were the case, there would be very large blocks of empty spaces in PCA and MDS Plots signifying the variation. We do not observe this, instead every single population on the planet, clusters closely in an uninterrupted fashion. Today (outside of a few small circles) race is used in a social/political manner by the masses and not biological. The question of what race you belong to is a spurious one, since in Genetics, Taxonomy and Zoology, a race is the lowest taxon ranking any organism can achieve.

Most people don't know anything about genes

Some people misunderstand what genes are for and what they do in the body. People don’t understand that genes direct the production of proteins. Genes, on their own, are not the masters but the servants. And, as entirely passive strings of chemicals, it is logically impossible for them to initiate and steer development in any sense. Long before scientists even knew what the structure of DNA was, the idea of genetic or biological determinism was prevalent. Genetic determinism is the theory that an individual organism’s behavior is predominantly controlled by that individual’s genes, playing down or eliminating the role of environment entirely. In fact, this theory remained popular throughout the twentieth century, and it is only in recent decades that continuous scientific study has been capable of diminishing the role of genetic determinism in the behavior of living things.

DNA, and the genes it encodes, used to be compared to the pages of a book. The DNA was written down carefully, page after page, in a specific manner, and if this “book” was read in a specific way, the resultant interpretation would lead to genes and, by extension, a biological being. However, if any part of the DNA sequence was written down incorrectly, this would lead to errors i.e. gene mutations. This analogy corresponds very well with genetic determinism – nothing matters but the genes that are encoded.

However, nowadays DNA is akin to the hard-drive of a computer; the base sequence from which everything else is built upon. DNA on its own does absolutely nothing until activated by the rest of the system through transcription factors, markers of one kind or another, interactions with the proteins. Modifications that directly affect DNA, such as mutations, are actual errors or damage to the hardware. Any additional modifications to the DNA are comparable to software installed on the computer i.e. do not directly change the DNA sequence but, rather, sit “on top of” the base data in order to change the final outcome of any given sequence.

Epigenetics is the branch of genetics which deals with changes to DNA that alter levels of gene expression, without altering the DNA sequence itself. Many epigenetic signals are known as post-translational modifications; by and large, these modifications occur at the site of gene transcription and ultimately determine whether a gene is over-expressed, under-expressed, or expressed at all. These epigenetic modifications can permanently turn genes off when they are deemed entirely unnecessary. Modifications such as these can be activated and deactivated based on particular environmental stimuli, be that stimuli from within the cell itself or externally e.g. too much sunlight, not enough food etc. Perhaps most importantly, whilst epigenetic modifications are heritable – they can be passed on to offspring - they can also be very readily reversed.

Viruses/bacteria/fungi/parasites are also the gene manipulators... as humans go, our own genetic mutation is copy/replication “mistake” error driven but when living in an environment with all the pathogens, we are constantly getting edited by these manipulators which give us cancers, diabetes, autism, etc. We have so many viruses embedded in our genome that we can’t even begin life (initial cell differentiation) without utilizing the initial control functions passed from a virus, unlike all other mammals which don’t have these virus type cell differentiators. We are symbiotic with our gut bacteria for energy and digestion and to defend against other bacteria and viruses.

There are always going to be genetic components to some aspects of why an organism is the way it is. However, human physical traits such as height, which used to be considered entirely genetic, are now considered to be epigenetics.

https://kottke.org/23/02/why-did-south- ... -100-years

Why do blacks and whites have different testosterone levels? Most significant difference is probably going to be the vitamin d levels, drop those and the body has to compensate by boosting the reservoirs for the immune system... those happen to also allow the higher testosterone levels unless the immune system needs to tone down the use of them, so it turns down testosterone when it is weak and needs access to the muscles resources...


Human intelligence

Effectively, human/“intelligence” is just a survival strategy. That is, a method of acquiring energy for structuring the growth of an organization of cells... the greater/higher the level of intelligence, as defined by both breathe of knowledge about the external reality and the temporal domain of reality (history for perspective and future for planning to be where the energy will be, or even better planting the future so energy will be there when and where we want it) is just the extension of that strategy of acquiring energy, nutrients, etc.

The human brain is not intelligence, it’s a survival mechanism optimized for selecting immune and other compatibilities. Generally speaking, intelligence is pattern matching but still requires an active context to know if you need to calculate within two seconds whether the mountain lion is going to eat you or run away from you? The high level processes of the brain are coordinating the retrieval of context mode and maintaining it, while activating different coherency regions that might be used by that context mode. Similar to the OS maintaining the partition of the programs and scheduling the access to resources like the memory or storage systems. For the most part, this means that the “lazy intelligence” only executes when it is necessary for survival. Since our world is getting a lot easier and safer, your brain has no need to emphasize memorizing frequently observed sequences (Cognitive modules) of patterns and developing invariant representations. We grow into a context of demands that then causes the growth of the required level of complexity to manage the knowledge and acquisition of details to fill in the domains.

There is no intelligence genes

They are basically allele counting and making unsubstantiated claims. The truth is that if you get a particularly nasty virus when you are young, then you are a prime suspect for developing the overactive brain that is edging towards the schizophrenia brain patterns depending on which proteins are over or under produced once the virus starts operating it’s control functions. After digging through the research on various "geniuses" throughout history, I learned a higher percentage of them had childhoods that more than likely resulted in a similar over expressed memory encoding activity in their brain due to viruses and the resulting anxiety of the heightened immune system pushed them to solve problems they had in front of them, any and all problems they could think about because that is how the brain works when it is stressed - it tries to solve problems. However, the amount of energy required to maintain that excessive brain activity and immune system will likely kill you.

The default state of a human is basically like a cow. Humans were NOT meant to ponder the whole universe their entire lives, aka philosophize and grandiosize their own take on what it means to be alive… they are meant to learn new things and how to survive but the brain isn’t supposed to be on all the time. Studies on the heritability of intelligence started over a century ago can be dismissed with new research in Molecular Biology, Cell Biology and Neuroscience connecting the brain to the immune system. Immune molecules are actually defining how the brain is functioning.

Polygenic scores may be all the rage with halfwits, but they are a fudge. A decade’s efforts to identify individual bricks that build the house have failed: let’s just throw a few thousand suspicious bits of material together to see if they at least make a start. In a host of assumptions like additivity and linearity of effects, it entails a highly naïve – indeed outmoded – view of the gene and biological systems.

Polygenic scores can be slightly interesting from the point of view of animal/plant breeding, where they might actually be usable/measurable. but human GWAS is too much of a hot mess for these things to be even slightly interpretable. What conceivable use does a measure have when it maybe sometimes can explain 1% of the variance? Recall that polygenic scores are, basically, linear combinations of dozens of features–when there is no plausible reason to believe that these effects are statistically independent–so you’ve basically overfit the crap out of what little signal there is, and gee whiz, turns out the prediction is crap also. The method entails a formidable battery of assumptions, data corrections, and statistical maneuvers. But the most fatal assumption is that human societies can be treated as random breeding populations in randomly distributed environments with equally random distributions of genes.

On the contrary, human populations reflect continuous emigration and immigration. Immigrants with related genetic backgrounds tend not to disperse randomly in the target society. In their flow to jobs they concentrate in different social strata. This creates (entirely coincidental, non-causal) correlation between social class and genetic background persisting across many generations. For example, the Wellcome Trust’s “genetic map of Britain” shows strikingly different genetic admixtures among residents of different geographic regions of the United Kingdom.

This is what is called “population structure.” As Evan Charney notes, it is “omnipresent in all populations and it wreaks havoc with assumptions about ‘relatedness’ and ‘unrelatedness’ that cannot be ‘corrected for’ by the statistical methods [devised]”. History shows that anyone committed to a “genes as destiny” narrative, and a mythological meritocracy, based on nothing but mountains of correlations, needs to tread very cautiously.

We see this with r/K selection theory as an application for human behavior and even *racial* differences in behavior. Rushton didn’t properly understand ecological theory, nor did he understand evolution, nor did he understand anything involving r/K selection theory which means one can safely disregard what Rushton—or anyone like Molyneaux who doesn’t know about the theory—says about it.

Honestly, this is a classic case of someone over-extrapolating something in a high-school textbook and then proceed to misapply it haphazardly to something that they think sounds related. "Higher birth rates? Yep, that's r selection" *proceeds to ignore every other characteristic of r/K selection theory because they've got far enough to confirm their biases*. Definitely ignore that it's an equation that throws out more variables than you can count to focus only on the "dominant" ones under extreme conditions. Pretty much every *race* had similar birth rates until industrialization and birth control. Having few children is a modern luxury that has zero to do with race, and everything to do with circumstance, and a trivial inspection of history will tell you that near a dozen children were normal in pretty much every European country up until the 1800s. Hell it was a common convention in the roman empire to name your children numbers, like quintius, sextus, or decimus, because so many would die young. In fact, by the 1900s Europe had more than half the world's population.

In conclusion

We, in the established order, recommend is that if you insist on labeling people by groups then do by national/geographical means. "That Kenyan guy over there" makes a lot more sense then saying "that black guy over there". Not to mention the latter would be a subjective and inaccurate label. Especially considering being "black/white" etc is completely relative to the nation and culture one lives in. Being "white" 100 years ago meant something completely different then that it means today.

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Gerard Butler. What is your source?
IQ exists and is a heritable. See twin studies on identical twins raised apart. IQ is most likely impacted.by numerous genes along with environmental factors such as nutrition. Higher intelligence intelligence developed as it gave a survival benefit. That we are only one race is a fashionable opinion. Scientists can examine DNA and determine the race of of the person the DNA came from. th e difference s between the races are more than just skin color such as IQ and brain structure. Of course, that does not imply moral superiority for any race.
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What are your credentials? You don't appear to be very knowledgeable (perhaps you bowed out of high school) and you're not even aware that DNA tests indicate possible Biogeographical ancestry, not race as you define it. DNA testing companies ascertain DNA ethnicity by analyzing DNA samples from living individuals who comprise a reference panel. Generally, samples are collected from individuals with significant roots in a particular region. For certain DNA ethnicity initiatives, the individual must have four grandparents from the same country, region, or county. Why? Even if you are a descendant of Shakespeare, there is only a negligible chance of your having any of his DNA. This is because autosomal DNA gets passed on randomly. Shakespeare's kid probably had 50 percent of his DNA; his kid in turn, on average, a quarter, and so on. Within 10 generations, Shakespeare's DNA has spread out and recombined so many times that it doesn't even really make sense to speak of a match.

Almost all humans have the same set of genes. Nevertheless, different populations have varying frequency and prevalence of gene expressions. Do you even know what that means? For example, genes related to dark hair are present in Asian populations-including native Americans-but also in European populations. Ancestry reports just counts the prevalence of gene expressions and put people into ancestry groups like Euro, African, etc. It doesn't go back more than 3000 years. A person who calls herself an Italian today might have called herself a Gaul a couple thousand years ago and gone to war against the Romans. In other words, to divide people into groups, researchers make decisions: For example, they'll say, the members of this group of people have all lived in Morocco for at least several generations, so we'll add their DNA to the reference libraries for Moroccans. And people who had one grandparent with that sort of DNA will hear that they're 25 percent Moroccan. But that boundary, is fundamentally imaginary. It's not really science so much as it's description. If they were to be completely honest, what they should tell you is not that you're 47 percent Italian but that you're 47 plus or minus some error range …

A person's IQ is largely based on accumulated knowledge. How much one learns and can reference, not necessarily useable level of knowledge though as so many college students seem to demonstrate. For example, you can start a university degree with an IQ of 100 and leave 4 years later with an IQ of 110 if you study a hard subject like computer science or philosophy. IQ tests are basically puzzles and only work for measuring people who have been exposed to the puzzles it tests for... turns out it’s a western culture test and slowly those cultural puzzles have been taught to more of the world to bring up the IQ scores. I am fairly certain that even a person with slight mental disabilities could reach a high “IQ” with enough time and a high enough training frequency. The problem there would certainly be with training motivation.

Consider for example the results from Germany obtained prior to its 1991 reunification. Lynn and Vanhanen present four separate IQ studies from the former West Germany, all quite sizable, which indicate mean IQs in the range 99–107, with the oldest 1970 sample providing the low end of that range. Meanwhile, a 1967 sample of East German children produced a score of just 90, while two later East German studies in 1978 and 1984 came in at 97–99, much closer to the West German numbers.

Moreover, intelligence, without a qualifier, is just a term applied to knowing enough to survive in an environment; any agent that doesn't make the cut isn't very intelligent. Human intelligence is demand driven, we grow into a context of demands that then causes the growth of the required level of complexity to manage the knowledge and acquisition of details to fill in the domains. For the most part, this means that the “lazy intelligence” only executes when it is necessary for survival.

What you might inherit from a parent is an overactive brain from some pathogens that are expressing their heritable genetic information through their hosts. The hosts are the environments of the pathogens. If the pathogens haven’t infected the hosts, the phenotypes aren’t expressed, despite the hosts having the same heritable genetic information. They’re really more like the heritable traits of the pathogens, expressed in the bodies of the hosts. Drowning in water could be said to be a heritable trait since humans unlike fish don’t have genes for breathing underwater, but that isn’t really the sense of the common usage of “heritable trait”.

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GerardButler wrote:
April 3rd, 2023, 3:14 am
What are your credentials? You don't appear to be very knowledgeable (perhaps you bowed out of high school) and you're not even aware that DNA tests indicate possible Biogeographical ancestry, not race as you define it. DNA testing companies ascertain DNA ethnicity by analyzing DNA samples from living individuals who comprise a reference panel. Generally, samples are collected from individuals with significant roots in a particular region. For certain DNA ethnicity initiatives, the individual must have four grandparents from the same country, region, or county. Why? Even if you are a descendant of Shakespeare, there is only a negligible chance of your having any of his DNA. This is because autosomal DNA gets passed on randomly. Shakespeare's kid probably had 50 percent of his DNA; his kid in turn, on average, a quarter, and so on. Within 10 generations, Shakespeare's DNA has spread out and recombined so many times that it doesn't even really make sense to speak of a match.

Almost all humans have the same set of genes. Nevertheless, different populations have varying frequency and prevalence of gene expressions. Do you even know what that means? For example, genes related to dark hair are present in Asian populations-including native Americans-but also in European populations. Ancestry reports just counts the prevalence of gene expressions and put people into ancestry groups like Euro, African, etc. It doesn't go back more than 3000 years. A person who calls herself an Italian today might have called herself a Gaul a couple thousand years ago and gone to war against the Romans. In other words, to divide people into groups, researchers make decisions: For example, they'll say, the members of this group of people have all lived in Morocco for at least several generations, so we'll add their DNA to the reference libraries for Moroccans. And people who had one grandparent with that sort of DNA will hear that they're 25 percent Moroccan. But that boundary, is fundamentally imaginary. It's not really science so much as it's description. If they were to be completely honest, what they should tell you is not that you're 47 percent Italian but that you're 47 plus or minus some error range …

A person's IQ is largely based on accumulated knowledge. How much one learns and can reference, not necessarily useable level of knowledge though as so many college students seem to demonstrate. For example, you can start a university degree with an IQ of 100 and leave 4 years later with an IQ of 110 if you study a hard subject like computer science or philosophy. IQ tests are basically puzzles and only work for measuring people who have been exposed to the puzzles it tests for... turns out it’s a western culture test and slowly those cultural puzzles have been taught to more of the world to bring up the IQ scores. I am fairly certain that even a person with slight mental disabilities could reach a high “IQ” with enough time and a high enough training frequency. The problem there would certainly be with training motivation.

Consider for example the results from Germany obtained prior to its 1991 reunification. Lynn and Vanhanen present four separate IQ studies from the former West Germany, all quite sizable, which indicate mean IQs in the range 99–107, with the oldest 1970 sample providing the low end of that range. Meanwhile, a 1967 sample of East German children produced a score of just 90, while two later East German studies in 1978 and 1984 came in at 97–99, much closer to the West German numbers.

Moreover, intelligence, without a qualifier, is just a term applied to knowing enough to survive in an environment; any agent that doesn't make the cut isn't very intelligent. Human intelligence is demand driven, we grow into a context of demands that then causes the growth of the required level of complexity to manage the knowledge and acquisition of details to fill in the domains. For the most part, this means that the “lazy intelligence” only executes when it is necessary for survival.

What you might inherit from a parent is an overactive brain from some pathogens that are expressing their heritable genetic information through their hosts. The hosts are the environments of the pathogens. If the pathogens haven’t infected the hosts, the phenotypes aren’t expressed, despite the hosts having the same heritable genetic information. They’re really more like the heritable traits of the pathogens, expressed in the bodies of the hosts. Drowning in water could be said to be a heritable trait since humans unlike fish don’t have genes for breathing underwater, but that isn’t really the sense of the common usage of “heritable trait”.

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The crendetials here is NOBEL PRIZE WINNER won the Nobel in 1962 for his role in discovering DNA's double helix structure

In an interview aired on US television earlier this month, James Watson — who won the Nobel in 1962 for his role in discovering DNA's double helix structure — said genes were responsible for a difference between black and white people on IQ tests.13.01.2019

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-01-14/ ... IQ%20tests.
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Lol, obviously advances in science and historical understanding elude you @galii. In science, you begin with a hypothesis (the starting point for further investigation), and if you can't substantiate it within eighty years, it's nonsense. Where are these intelligence genes? How do they even work? James Watson has Irish ancestry, so according to Victorian-era British science he is stupid and maybe got lucky. In fact, he used the work of a wealthy Anglo-Jewish woman, Rosalind Franklin, whose X-ray photographs of DNA contributed directly to the discovery of the double helix.

In late February 1953, Rosalind Franklin, a 33-year-old physical chemist working in the biophysics unit of King's College in London, wrote in her notebooks that the structure of DNA had two chains. She had already worked out that the molecule had its phosphate groups on the outside and that DNA existed in two forms. Two weeks later James Watson and Francis Crick, at the Cavendish Laboratory at Cambridge, built their now celebrated model of DNA as a double helix on the basis of Franklin's unpublished experimental evidence, which had reached them through irregular routes.

How far she had advanced was reported in two articles in Nature by Sir Aaron Klug, Franklin's closest collaborator at Birkbeck College, London, where she moved to from King's. He concluded that she had come very close to discovering the structure of DNA herself.

After her early death at 33, Watson's dismissive comments of "Rosy" in his book drew the attention of the emerging women's movement in the late 1960s. Franklin then become a feminist icon — the Sylvia Plath of molecular biology — seen as a genius whose gifts were suppressed by white men. Her failure to win the Nobel prize has been given as a prime example of the entrenched racism and misogyny of the science establishment of the time.

So it really actually quite funny that you mention a person like James Watson as some expert on everything. Without a Jewish women, he would be a nobody

https://www.theguardian.com/science/201 ... klins-data

Seriously, Nikola Tesla invented, predicted, or contributed to the development of numerous technologies that play a significant role in our daily lives, such as the remote control, neon and fluorescent lighting, wireless transmission, computers, smartphones, laser beams, x-rays, robotics, and, of course, alternating current. He also fell in love with a pigeon. So just because someone has some great insights, doesn't mean they cannot error.

https://www.britannica.com/story/nikola ... th-pigeons

Now come back to me when you stop flipping burgers at McDonald's and scouring the internet for incel videos, you stupid illiterate baboon.
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@GerardButler
, you stupid illiterate baboon.
That is not nice
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If you can't accept his credentials as a nobel price winner so we disagree. The contributions of Rosanlin Franklin are huge. She died very young. Dead people do not get the nobel price. Though she deserved it .
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If Tesla wrote something about electicity we would listen because he has credentials even he might be wrong.
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Children's background Number of Children Age 7 Corrected IQ Age 17 Corrected IQ
Non adopted, with two white biological parents 101 110.5 105.5
Adopted, with two white biological parents 16 111.5 101.5
Adopted, with one white and one black biological parent 55 105.4 93.2
Adopted, Asian or indigenous American parents 12 96.1 91.2
Adopted, with two black biological parents 21 91.4 83.7

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota ... tion_Study
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Allelic associations between 100 DNA markers and high versus low IQ☆
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... 9695900373
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But it is true that you are an illiterate, autistic imbecile. You can barely read or write in English. Where are you from, China? Seriously, you must realize that you are an idiot, right? According to your minuscule intellect, ChatGPT trained on IQ tests must be capable of curing cancer tomorrow. I mean, it's got something like 300 IQ. Your brain is so defective that it cannot comprehend that IQ tests are simply riddles that anyone can practice and become proficient at. In addition, the scientific consensus regarding James Watson is that he is past his prime and essentially a brain-dead relic. After 80 years, this is the consensus of science https://www.theatlantic.com/science/arc ... ss/561392/ If you are unaware, Scientific consensus is the judgment, position, and opinion held by the majority or supermajority of scientists in a particular field of study at any given time. Just shut the f**k up. You are you are literally retarded.
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GerardButler wrote:
April 3rd, 2023, 3:50 pm
But it is true that you are an illiterate, autistic imbecile. You can barely read or write in English. Where are you from, China? Seriously, you must realize that you are an idiot, right? According to your minuscule intellect, ChatGPT trained on IQ tests must be capable of curing cancer tomorrow. I mean, it's got something like 300 IQ. Your brain is so defective that it cannot comprehend that IQ tests are simply riddles that anyone can practice and become proficient at. In addition, the scientific consensus regarding James Watson is that he is past his prime and essentially a brain-dead relic. After 80 years, this is the consensus of science https://www.theatlantic.com/science/arc ... ss/561392/ If you are unaware, Scientific consensus is the judgment, position, and opinion held by the majority or supermajority of scientists in a particular field of study at any given time. Just shut the f**k up. You are you are literally retarded.
Ad hominem

Top psychologist: IQ is the No. 1 predictor of work success—especially combined with these 5 traits
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/07/11/does-iq ... hs-in.html
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galii wrote:
April 3rd, 2023, 4:03 pm
GerardButler wrote:
April 3rd, 2023, 3:50 pm
But it is true that you are an illiterate, autistic imbecile. You can barely read or write in English. Where are you from, China? Seriously, you must realize that you are an idiot, right? According to your minuscule intellect, ChatGPT trained on IQ tests must be capable of curing cancer tomorrow. I mean, it's got something like 300 IQ. Your brain is so defective that it cannot comprehend that IQ tests are simply riddles that anyone can practice and become proficient at. In addition, the scientific consensus regarding James Watson is that he is past his prime and essentially a brain-dead relic. After 80 years, this is the consensus of science https://www.theatlantic.com/science/arc ... ss/561392/ If you are unaware, Scientific consensus is the judgment, position, and opinion held by the majority or supermajority of scientists in a particular field of study at any given time. Just shut the f**k up. You are you are literally retarded.
Ad hominem

Top psychologist: IQ is the No. 1 predictor of work success—especially combined with these 5 traits
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/07/11/does-iq ... hs-in.html
Lol, literally the entire education system was designed to produce disposable, obedient, average-IQ workers.

https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/ ... rred_from/

I see you don't live in the real world, you sound like some retarded autistic robot. The majority of employees are not compensated for their intellect, creativity, or "potential," but rather for their availability. They are overcapacity. The old industrial regime required not only extensive subordination, but also intermediate, educated subordinates. They had to be given a sense of importance (19th century clerks, 20th century middle managers, and "junior executives"), but their working lives had to be mediocre, because turning people into machines is difficult, and turning a large group of people into machines is so difficult that it requires hierarchy and an elevated-yet-subordinate tier. This need for intermediate subordinates meant that our (misguided?) tendency, in human organizations, to promote people based on their being effective subordinates, rather than their creative ability or leadership, did not harm us all that much - at least not back then. Now it does, slightly, as the ability to transform a large number of humans into machines is significantly less useful, as actual computing machines are superior machines than we could ever be.

I wonder what other stupid, generic shit you're going to throw out. Your brain must be the size of a golf ball :lol:
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I wonder what other stupid, generic shit you're going to throw out. Your brain must be the size of a golf ball
insult and ad hominem

Aboriginals are burdens on Society
Australia has a really big issue with Aboriginals. I'm very interested to hear others views on this without getting REEEE-ed at.

Firstly, they have a comedically low average IQ, coming in at a disturbing < 69. That being, by definition retarded. For comparison, that's lower than Koko with an IQ of at least 80, a gorilla…

Secondly, they don't contribute to the community, remaining mostly unemployed while simultaneously leeching money off the government, absorbing around $30 billion a year!

Lastly, they have a disturbing molestation issue which remains largely unspoken of in Australia. Molestation instances in the aboriginal community are more than 4 times higher than the non-aboriginal community.

Some action clearly needs to be taken however the issue is not even well known of, let alone close to being resolved. Thoughts?
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Comment from PAG: (his reply to galii)
GerardButler wrote:
April 3rd, 2023, 3:50 pm
But it is true that you are an illiterate, autistic imbecile. You can barely read or write in English. Where are you from, China? Seriously, you must realize that you are an idiot, right? According to your minuscule intellect
....
Just shut the f**k up. You are you are literally retarded.
I see you don't live in the real world, you sound like some retarded autistic robot.
.....
I wonder what other stupid, generic shit you're going to throw out. Your brain must be the size of a golf ball :lol:
Question to the moderator:

How long will PAG and his sockpuppets be allowed to continue to post in this HA-Forum?
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Yohan wrote:
April 4th, 2023, 2:26 am
Comment from PAG: (his reply to galii)
GerardButler wrote:
April 3rd, 2023, 3:50 pm
But it is true that you are an illiterate, autistic imbecile. You can barely read or write in English. Where are you from, China? Seriously, you must realize that you are an idiot, right? According to your minuscule intellect
....
Just shut the f**k up. You are you are literally retarded.
I see you don't live in the real world, you sound like some retarded autistic robot.
.....
I wonder what other stupid, generic shit you're going to throw out. Your brain must be the size of a golf ball :lol:
Question to the moderator:

How long will PAG and his sockpuppets be allowed to continue to post in this HA-Forum?
Agreed
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Re: Are white people subhuman? Your definitive guide to race and intelligence

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galii wrote:
April 4th, 2023, 1:13 am
I wonder what other stupid, generic shit you're going to throw out. Your brain must be the size of a golf ball
insult and ad hominem

Aboriginals are burdens on Society
Australia has a really big issue with Aboriginals. I'm very interested to hear others views on this without getting REEEE-ed at.

Firstly, they have a comedically low average IQ, coming in at a disturbing < 69. That being, by definition retarded. For comparison, that's lower than Koko with an IQ of at least 80, a gorilla…

Secondly, they don't contribute to the community, remaining mostly unemployed while simultaneously leeching money off the government, absorbing around $30 billion a year!

Lastly, they have a disturbing molestation issue which remains largely unspoken of in Australia. Molestation instances in the aboriginal community are more than 4 times higher than the non-aboriginal community.

Some action clearly needs to be taken however the issue is not even well known of, let alone close to being resolved. Thoughts?
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Sorry, you cannot disregard valid analysis as insults and ad hominem simply because you disagree with the conclusion based on facts, as if you were a respectable intellectual as opposed to a simple car washer. The truth is that you're an imbecile. Nothing you said contradicts this conclusion. Let's dissect this:

1. You have no knowledge of genetics, biology, or intelligence, correct? You have no training in genetics or intelligence, is that not correct? Yes or no.

2. You are unwilling to acknowledge that no evidence has been discovered to support genetic determinism and the theory makes no sense. So as some kind of "refute" you cite a 100-year-old man who has been discredited in science for decades as a charlatan who stole a woman's work before she died of cancer as some type of "source". However, you neglected to provide any evidence to support these claims. Seriously, your belief in genetic determinism is akin to antiquated Victorian medical practice of drilling holes in people's heads to alleviate headaches and migraines.

3. The scientific community has moved beyond genetic determinism. So citing science from 100 to 200 years ago is rather absurd.

In light of the above, it is evident that you are as stupid as a crate of rocks. People who can’t move forward stay in intellectual darkness, because science is always moving forward. What was believed 200 years ago has been completely replaced now.
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Yohan wrote:
April 4th, 2023, 2:26 am
Comment from PAG: (his reply to galii)
GerardButler wrote:
April 3rd, 2023, 3:50 pm
But it is true that you are an illiterate, autistic imbecile. You can barely read or write in English. Where are you from, China? Seriously, you must realize that you are an idiot, right? According to your minuscule intellect
....
Just shut the f**k up. You are you are literally retarded.
I see you don't live in the real world, you sound like some retarded autistic robot.
.....
I wonder what other stupid, generic shit you're going to throw out. Your brain must be the size of a golf ball :lol:
Question to the moderator:

How long will PAG and his sockpuppets be allowed to continue to post in this HA-Forum?
Yet you're not calling for the ban of cornfeed, who advocates genocide and rape.
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