RickyRetardo wrote:Gadfly wrote:RickyRetardo wrote:Gadfly wrote:It really comes down to one's moral beliefs. Both men and women have a purpose in this world, which is to create families. And the primary purpose of a job is to support a family.
I'm not sure you can prove what the "purpose" of human life is. It just seems like your idea that the purpose is to reproduce. However, I don't agree with it.
It's more than just reproduce. It's to teach children about God, religious morals, and virtues.
Does the soul of a child come into being as the woman is pregnant, or is the soul already in existence before the child is born?
Also, which conception of God is the correct one, and how do we know for certain whether something is virtuous?
I think your questions here point to a kind of fog that you allow yourself to get lost in, due to your pride.
Discovering the basic purpose of men and women is really not that hard to figure out. Again, it comes down to having moral beliefs. Otherwise, one gets caught up in endless questions that don't elicit meaningful answers but instead only distract, or invalidate. And that, I think, points to a spiritual problem.
RickyRetardo wrote:
Women also worked to support their families, not just men. Many women in hunter gatherer societies spend many hours fishing, gathering berries, and digging up roots. In some hunter gatherer societies women have been and still are active participants in hunting. One example is the Aeta people from the Philippines. In this tribe the women hunt the same game the men do, and this tribe has been successful for many generations.
You've set up a straw man here. I never denied that women worked, or did their part. Your defense of tribal working women is beside the point.
We are talking about
modern societies here, where work is done in very unnatural, highly rationalized systems. I argue that women do not belong in this work environment. They belong at home, in a supportive role raising the children.
RickyRetardo wrote:
The fact is, men built societies. Men are and always will be leaders, with women in tow.
I think it more likely that societies were built by both men and women. The average women historically in most cases has occupied a lower station than the average man, but it wouldn't be accurate to say that women had no place in the establishment of any society.
Well yes, women did their part. But men have always done the back-breaking, dangerous work of inventing, discovering, building, and maintaining everything around us today that make up modern society. The fact is women didn't do that, and they couldn't. They would be dead or starving in mud huts without men building and maintaining societies.
RickyRetardo wrote:All the professional career women could quit their jobs, be replaced by men, and the world would still run smoothly. The reverse scenario is not true.
That's not a verifiable statement; it's conjecture.
Well, you can't really verify until after you do it. It's conjecture based on solid facts about the nature of men and women.
RickyRetardo wrote:The fact that some women can do tasks as well, or even better, than some men doesn't mean that they should have careers anyway.
Would you agree that if a woman is a great surgeon, she should nevertheless be prohibited from practicing surgery?
If there were a man capable of doing the job equally well and available to replace her,
yes.
If I were in charge, I would purge all the professions of women, no matter how competent they are. As long as there were men willing and capable to replace them.
