Then they believe in societies which did not exist.Winston wrote: ↑April 5th, 2023, 10:04 pmBut New Agers and esoteric people claim that advanced ancient societies like Atlantis were all ruled by super wise and evolved women with high levels of spirituality and wisdom. Is that so? lol. If it is, then such women are totally different than the women today. How would the most popular New Agers explain this? They would probably say that the oppression of women has prevented them from reaching their true potential right?Natural_Born_Cynic wrote: ↑April 5th, 2023, 9:26 pmWell "Patriarchy" is what got us into today's era. Otherwise, we all be living in huts, flinging fecal matters to each other like bunch of ignorant hairless monkeys. The stupid feminists and SJWs can deny all they want but it has been men who built civilization and invented most of all the technology used. Without all the modern convenience and technology, women wouldn't have the free time to blame men and Patriarchy.
We have very limited examples from history of matriarchal societies, however, the ones that have existed were horrifying places to live.
One of them is Ancient Sparta. The Athenians often criticized the Spartans because the Spartans were dominated by their women. Spartan men were raised from the time they were small children to be the most elite soldiers in the world. Their training lasted until they were 20 years old and was so brutal that more Spartan men died during the training period then actually died in war. Between the age of 21 to 29, Spartan men were not allowed to take a wife and live with her. He was required to live in the barracks with other soldiers. Homosexuality was common, because the only way a Spartan man could sleep with a woman was if he kidnapped her from her house, took her off somewhere without being seen, and f***ed her. Obviously such a task would have been difficult to do on a regular basis.
If a Spartan man managed to survive training, and survive war, and of course, disease. Then between the ages of 30 to 35 he was required to marry. Upon getting married, however, he had no right to his wife. She could commit adultery whenever she wished. Men typically had a harem of women because such a high percentage of the male population of Sparta died that monogamy would have left the majority of women with no husband. If a man's wife was impregnated by another man, he was expected to raise that child as his own.
Sparta's fertility rate was horrible. While Athens had a population of approximately 200,000-300,000 people. Sparta could not get above 50,000. The population varied from 50,000 during peace time to as low as 30,000 during the Peloponnesian war. Sparta could not fight wars all by itself because they had so few men available to fight despite requiring their entire male population to fight, that Sparta was dependent upon allies to provide the manpower for their wars. Sparta trying to fight a war all by themselves would be like America trying to win a war with the Navy SEALS.
As for agriculture, all of it was done with a large slave population called helots. There was about 400,000 helots, and they frequently rebelled. Sparta actually declared war on the helots one day out of every year, and indiscriminately slaughter them in order to keep their population down because they lived in constant fear of the helots revolting.
As for what the women of Sparta did? It seems... Not very much. They kept themselves in highly athletic shape all day but it appears they had no role in agriculture, building, fighting, leading the country or even being a good wife to her husband. Even raising the children was done by the state through training the males. The only substantive role they seemed to have was raising girls, who had barely any expectations placed upon them anyway.
Let me ask these new agers who think having a matriarchy where women are empowered would lead to some, softer, more nurturing society. How do they explain the fact that one of the only examples we have of matriarchy in Europe is this incredibly brutal, dystopian, war-like society that enslaved the vast majority of its people, butchered them relentlessly every year just to keep them in line, and which raised men with no softness whatsoever but rather killed the majority of them through brutal training or warfare, and which had no love or sentimentality between the sexes but rather delayed marriage for men until he was in his 30s, and even then had a polygamous culture where man and woman slept with one another freely and the man was expected to raise any child as his own, even when that child was another man's?
Sparta is a clear example of what unchecked primal femininity looks like. All of this obsession with war, and training strong soldiers, was really just a cover for the primal feminine instinct of wanting to mate with the strongest males. And they created a society where every woman had access to the very strongest males who had survived both brutal training and brutal warfare (although no one had exclusive access to any males). The men had no rights, their entire life was basically a 30 year brutal struggle to prove themselves worthy of being mated with.
Patriarchy, on the other hand, imprisons or kills any man who abuses his wife. Patriarchy demands that no woman be without a husband. Patriarchy demands women be treated gently, with honor, with chivalry. Patriarchy demands women be put on a pedestal, that men may not degrade her sexually with disgusting fetishes, or to pump her and dump her. Patriarchy demands that men actively raise their children and not abandon them. Despite what feminists claim, men do not seek war with one another unless it is absolutely necessary. Patriarchy is so good to women, that there are some women, especially women from patriarchal cultures, who realize how good it is to have men in charge. These women are the more civilized and evolved type of women. A woman who wants to be treated special by one man instead of simply seeking out the apes with the brightest asses to mate with.
Patriarchy is an agreement made between men that every man shall have his own woman, and no man may mess with his woman. And that this agreement will build a society that advances technologically and morally and ultimately give us all peace and harmony. It is the best idea the world has ever seen. One which teaches women to actually be the wonderful creatures that new agers and liberals act like they are. The truth is, when women are empowered, they lose everything that makes them wonderful. If one truly loves women and femininity, then they should seek to eliminate this insane idea that women ought to be empowered.