I HATE life in America

[Globus]

I noticed the same thing about college. It wasn't social at all like portrayed in the movies or in the stereotype. At CSU Hayward, no one wanted to socialize. Everyone minded their own business and expected me to do the same. They just wanted to get out of there so they could start making money. The environment was very sterile. Girls wouldn't go out with me, get to know me, or flirt.

I thought it was just CSU Hayward. Would it have been the same if I had gone to UC Berkeley, UCLA or any of the other hip universities?

My only positive experience was at a community college, Ohlone College in Fremont, CA. There the teachers were nicer, more interesting, supportive, and classes were smaller, cozy and personable. The schoolwork was lighter and more fun too.

I am in university now and I have observed the same thing. In movies college/university in US/Canada is portrayed as the best years of your life with lots of partying, hot girls, lots of social life, etc. But in reality it is the complete opposite. In my university everyone is on their laptops doing schoolwork minding their own business, students are constantly glued to their phones with headphones on, no eye contact, nobody acknowledges your existence, people segregate into racial groups. It is nothing at all like it is portrayed in the movies. There are also more females in my university than males and yet women still don't acknowledge my existence. Overall university is a very stressful and demanding environment with little socializing. There is also not a lot of dating. I might see one couple a week. There is also a huge difference between social life in university and high school. In uni most people are antisocial keep to themselves. In high school people are a lot more social but very cliquish so if you don't fit into a specific clique you will not have social life. I really can't wait to finish university and leave Canada. My plan is to travel to countries where women are attractive and approachable. Unfortunately in Canada even ugly women are unapproachable. I thought that once I left high school I will have more luck with women in uni but I was so wrong. I am 19 and I haven't talked or flirted with girls yet .But hopefully that will change when I visit foreign countries.

[Andrewww]

No offense but only an ignorant makes assumptions based solely on what he sees. You can just take a look at those suicide numbers to get an idea of how many people are suffering from loneliness in the US. Also, check out how many people live all by themselves, especially in big cities like New York.

I guess it also depends on how you define "sociable". Going out with your small ground of friends all the time is all good but you're not a sociable person in my opinion. You might look like one from an outsider's point of view but it will be next to impossible to make friends with someone stuck in their own little world.
Let's put it another way. In North America most people don't know their neighbours, in Eastern Europe that's unheard of (unless you're an anti-social freak aka "normal" behavior in the West)

[lone_yakuza]

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[HenryGeorge]

Welcome to America:

[NorthAmericanguy]

No offense but only an ignorant makes assumptions based solely on what he sees. You can just take a look at those suicide numbers to get an idea of how many people are suffering from loneliness in the US. Also, check out how many people live all by themselves, especially in big cities like New York.

I guess it also depends on how you define "sociable". Going out with your small ground of friends all the time is all good but you're not a sociable person in my opinion. You might look like one from an outsider's point of view but it will be next to impossible to make friends with someone stuck in their own little world.
Let's put it another way. In North America most people don't know their neighbours, in Eastern Europe that's unheard of (unless you're an anti-social freak aka "normal" behavior in the West)

I agree on all counts.^

And to be truthful, I COULD have a social life (and I'm sure others in here can as well), but the problem is that the only forms of social activity that seems to be encouraged/promoted in America is sitting around doing drugs and drinking oneself into oblivion.

Seriously, in high school, college, and even up to this day, I get invited to go out drinking, but I simply don't want any part of that lifestyle. There is simply no long term benefit from sitting in the middle of the woods/lake drinking keg after keg......

Sure, it looks like fun, but you pay later from ruining your heath.

[jamesbond]

I really can't wait to finish university and leave Canada. My plan is to travel to countries where women are attractive and approachable. Unfortunately in Canada even ugly women are unapproachable. I thought that once I left high school I will have more luck with women in uni but I was so wrong. I am 19 and I haven't talked or flirted with girls yet .But hopefully that will change when I visit foreign countries.

In America, the women who are fat and ugly are unapproachable. Even some women who look like genetic mutations are stuck up!

[innovatorsclub]

I don't get why there are so many white/western-european descent guys on this board. From what I have seen, most white guys are hanging out with buddies and having a pretty good time and getting lots of girls, many of those girls pretty good looking.

Or maybe it's because many of these guys treat their "friends" more like enemies and constantly psychologically attack each other and compete against each other for women? Who knows?

I'm just surprised there aren't more minorities on this board, especially the Asian American male variety, cause I see tons of very isolated Asian American guys with basically no social group, no friends, only their job to live for. It's like 75%-90% of the Asian American guys I see are like this (depends on area).

I also see that 75% of white/WASP/western European Americans have pretty large groups of friends, go sailing, go to the beach, have great social lives, have no problems dating......

I guess some of you guys are of the 25% who don't do those things or simply think American women are too demanding? Cause I'm pretty sure most anglo/western european american folk would say that life, especially social life is pretty good in the US. I mean white dudes have Asian girls begging to suck on their dicks everywhere they go, especially in the US.

Wow. So much angst in that post.

You actually bring up a serious point. It's something I've been wondering for a long time, ever since I've been reading reading the forums. I know I'm going to get flamed for this, but it appears a lot of the guys here are somewhat the "losers" of society. Not that they're actual losers, but in terms of Western society, they may be regarded as such. This typically includes those who did not graduate from college, or even if they did, they were not successful in obtaining good paying jobs. Consequently, these guys may be near the bottom of the socioeconomic ladder and are by default denied access to a lot of "go sailing and to the beach" social circles. A lot of them also seem to believe in conspiracy theories to an unhealthy extent. Some may be grossly overweight or simply unattractive. Others may be super introverts that can't express themselves well in this extroverted culture. All this sums up to having limited female choices in the US, even if they're white.

I can't help but sometimes feel that this forum and others like it is where the "social rejects" of society flock to, because they have no other choice. Not that I think any of them are actual losers, but societies such as in the West would consider them trash--while overseas societies may consider them decent people, especially the women.

You are wrong..I am a white guy who is a 7.5 and am told that I am handsome often by gals in asia. I have a white friend who has always been good looking and he is an 8.5. White girls and others that are Americanized avoid eye contact and act like he doesn't exist. Many girls are consumed with their smart phones and use them to avoid eye contact. He isn't in the top 7%. women at least in the west coast of America are way overvalued and think they are way better than they are. I went to a country in Asian last month for nearly a month and had sex with 8 girls and kissed two additional gals. They were mostly 7's and one was 19.. ( I am 43 but am told look 35 mainly because i have a flat stomach) I would have had no chance with most of them if they were in America and was on a frustrating 2 year dry spell just before my trip. Many white guys are on 3 year dry spells. Both the poster from the first post of this thread and winstons most recent post on this thread:

There are a lot of Asian and Black guys here too. If you read the archives, you will see that. Whites do not dominate this forum.

White guys complain too and in the US go sexless for years. They don't have it as easy as you think. Only alpha males do.

BTW dumba*** 911 was an inside job ( explain building 7, thermite/cut at an angle beams, the magic jet fuel, etc.) "conspiracy theoorists are simply smarter than you are fool and you are an intellectual coward

[innovatorsclub]

the initial poster and Winston are correct and none of the 8 gals I slept with were prostitutes and no I don't want to say which country because some of you don't deserve to have that info.

[innovatorsclub]

none were prosti***es

[E_Irizarry]

the initial poster and Winston are correct and none of the 8 gals I slept with were hoes and no I don't want to say which country because some of you don't deserve to have that info.

I like your response. I am usually the one that states that in some of the posts made to this board. Kudos to u, guy. +infinity!!

Keep those exotic places a secret.

[terminator]

This is my first rant in years but I guess I got to the point again. Just as the title says I hate life in America.

It is impossible to gain friends at American colleges. They are clicky and unapproachable.

The girls are uninterested, clicky, bitchy, taken, slutty, or unattractive.

I think Eastern Europe would be good for me because of the beautiful girls and entrepreneurial opportunities as a developing economy.

You forget E. Europe is full of unemployed, young, attractive natives - why do you think you can do any better than them? Many businessmen pay to have their competitors "taken out" in numerous ways - so good luck.

[Tsar]

You forget E. Europe is full of unemployed, young, attractive natives - why do you think you can do any better than them?

I don't think it would be as much of a competition compared to America. Don't the girls want a guy who can provide for them, treat them with respect, a "nice guy" type of guy? If the girls are just like American girls then I couldn't do better than the natives but they haven't been Americanized, at least not yet. Do unemployed natives have a salary?

[momopi]

Here's an interesting thought. If suicide is the ultimate statistic of unhappiness:

http://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/s ... tes02.html



US suicide rate by ethnicity, 2005-2009

[Billy]

but the suicide rates compared to russia might look different. there the guys die whey they are 60. here people rant then about the usa.

it´s a matter of your indivdial niche. when you can get gains then you should go otherwise not. people generalize to much here.

ladislav i also think that the west is normally breeding more lone wolfs but somehow for many it´s difficult to handle that. i am also somehow raised by the system to be a lone wolf and it suits me well.

i am here in turkey i don´t want to socialize at least at the moment with the turks as my believe system and goals are totally different and not understandable by them.

the strong ist strong when he is alone. no need to be dominated by angst.

[leavingusa]

I don't get why there are so many white/western-european descent guys on this board. From what I have seen, most white guys are hanging out with buddies and having a pretty good time and getting lots of girls, many of those girls pretty good looking.

Or maybe it's because many of these guys treat their "friends" more like enemies and constantly psychologically attack each other and compete against each other for women? Who knows?

I'm just surprised there aren't more minorities on this board, especially the Asian American male variety, cause I see tons of very isolated Asian American guys with basically no social group, no friends, only their job to live for. It's like 75%-90% of the Asian American guys I see are like this (depends on area).

I also see that 75% of white/WASP/western European Americans have pretty large groups of friends, go sailing, go to the beach, have great social lives, have no problems dating......

I guess some of you guys are of the 25% who don't do those things or simply think American women are too demanding? Cause I'm pretty sure most anglo/western european american folk would say that life, especially social life is pretty good in the US. I mean white dudes have Asian girls begging to suck on their dicks everywhere they go, especially in the US.

Wow. So much angst in that post.

You actually bring up a serious point. It's something I've been wondering for a long time, ever since I've been reading reading the forums. I know I'm going to get flamed for this, but it appears a lot of the guys here are somewhat the "losers" of society. Not that they're actual losers, but in terms of Western society, they may be regarded as such. This typically includes those who did not graduate from college, or even if they did, they were not successful in obtaining good paying jobs. Consequently, these guys may be near the bottom of the socioeconomic ladder and are by default denied access to a lot of "go sailing and to the beach" social circles. A lot of them also seem to believe in conspiracy theories to an unhealthy extent. Some may be grossly overweight or simply unattractive. Others may be super introverts that can't express themselves well in this extroverted culture. All this sums up to having limited female choices in the US, even if they're white.

I can't help but sometimes feel that this forum and others like it is where the "social rejects" of society flock to, because they have no other choice. Not that I think any of them are actual losers, but societies such as in the West would consider them trash--while overseas societies may consider them decent people, especially the women.

It's worse than that. If there is one thing that's off about you, you are f***ed. Also some of us are over 25-30 and at that point, things go downhill fast. There's just no single girls.

If you are talking to a girl and you say something that's a little boring she will just walk away from you or say she has to go. Women are usually attracted to me initially so I see this a lot, when I say I'm in IT they instantly lose interest.

If you are not running with a large crowd then you will have a hard time meeting girls and if you do not like football, drinking, and shit like that you are a freak and and outcast. Sure there are emos and other groups but you have to fit in somewhere or you are done. A lot of it boils down to having any individuality at all, get rid of it.

Like others have said, it's hard to get friends unless you've got something special going for you or can carry some kind of an image or brand. No friends, no girls. There you are. If you are over 30 you are either online dating or hitting bars by yourself. If you are smart you'll switch to hookers or jerk off to porn and be done with it.

And I speak as someone who's been on both sides of that fence several times in my life. Feast or famine depending on circumstance.

When I was feasting I didn't have to do anything, when I was starving nothing I did would help.