Paying For Sex Is More Alpha Than Using PUA Methods

[drealm]

Random blog I found (from 2011):

http://lifestylejourney.blogspot.com/20 ... using.html

Paying money instead of using game means you don't have to change who you are. If you want to get laid, you just pay money, and your personality stays basically intact. So given a choice between the two, a truly alpha guy is more likely to just pay for sex than change parts of his personality in order to get women to have sex with him. Now some guys will say that going to prostitutes sucks because the woman doesn't actually like them, and is just doing it for money. To me, as long as I just want sex, it wouldn't matter to me anymore than if my mechanic likes me as a person. As long as he can properly service my car, that's all I really want. I'm not paying him to like me. I'm paying him to service my car, the same way I would pay a woman to satisfy me sexually. However, I would want her to respect me. That is important, the same way it's important that my mechanic respects my wishes with respect to my car.

Some comments:

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Anon, playing a game and winning brings satisfaction? That really depends on what you are trying to win.

With game, what you are trying to *win* is a response from someone else - this means you have to subordinate your own desires and wishes in order to fit in with someone ELSEs script.

So what you are *accomplishing* is lowering yourself to the level of a slave. Its like the dog who gets satisfaction from *winning* food from his master - but how did he win it? He became a slave for his master.

If the only way you can accomplish something involving the consent of another human being is by becoming their *slave* (by suppressing your own personality to fit in with theirs), it suddenly does not seem like such an accomplishment, does it?

Thats why even if game succeeded it would not be an *accomplishment*. It would merely mean you consented to be a females slave in order to win a positive response from her.

True *winning* means getting things on your OWN terms, not THEIR terms.

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On the general topic of prostitution and being alpha, can any gamer explain to me why rockstars, billionaires, politicans, wrestlers and all kinds of alphas continue getting caught in prostitution rings?

Can anyone explain to me why the most powerful and even most attractive men on the planet who could get women easily, still go to escorts?

In fact, if game was about emulating alphas, then gamers would be teaching going to professionals as part of the repertoir. Most alphas I have ever known do whores on a regular basis.

Heck, even rockstars who have groupies, still choose to do prostitutes... Maybe it's because they figured out that you pay a whore to leave (which a groupie might not).

Maybe it's because being an alpha is ultimately about figuring out that you respect yourself, your time and your resources too much to leave it up to chance.

An alpha wants complete dominion over his time and resources. He wants complete control, without any randomness or vagueness.

[jamesbond]

Interesting article. With game you have to change who you are and try and con a woman into thinking you are an alpha male or a high status man. It takes a lot of time, (PUA artist Mystery says you need to go out to bars and clubs four nights a week to develop your game) and a lot of patience.

It's simply faster to just pay a hoe for sex, rather than jumping through hoops and running game on women in hopes that you can eventually seduce her.

[Jester]

Random blog I found (from 2011):

http://lifestylejourney.blogspot.com/20 ... using.html

Paying money instead of using game means you don't have to change who you are. If you want to get laid, you just pay money, and your personality stays basically intact. So given a choice between the two, a truly alpha guy is more likely to just pay for sex than change parts of his personality in order to get women to have sex with him. Now some guys will say that going to hoes sucks because the woman doesn't actually like them, and is just doing it for money. To me, as long as I just want sex, it wouldn't matter to me anymore than if my mechanic likes me as a person. As long as he can properly service my car, that's all I really want. I'm not paying him to like me. I'm paying him to service my car, the same way I would pay a woman to satisfy me sexually. However, I would want her to respect me. That is important, the same way it's important that my mechanic respects my wishes with respect to my car.

Some comments:

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Anon, playing a game and winning brings satisfaction? That really depends on what you are trying to win.

With game, what you are trying to *win* is a response from someone else - this means you have to subordinate your own desires and wishes in order to fit in with someone ELSEs script.

So what you are *accomplishing* is lowering yourself to the level of a slave. Its like the dog who gets satisfaction from *winning* food from his master - but how did he win it? He became a slave for his master.

If the only way you can accomplish something involving the consent of another human being is by becoming their *slave* (by suppressing your own personality to fit in with theirs), it suddenly does not seem like such an accomplishment, does it?

Thats why even if game succeeded it would not be an *accomplishment*. It would merely mean you consented to be a females slave in order to win a positive response from her.

True *winning* means getting things on your OWN terms, not THEIR terms.

=============================

On the general topic of prostitution and being alpha, can any gamer explain to me why rockstars, billionaires, politicans, wrestlers and all kinds of alphas continue getting caught in prostitution rings?

Can anyone explain to me why the most powerful and even most attractive men on the planet who could get women easily, still go to escorts?

In fact, if game was about emulating alphas, then gamers would be teaching going to professionals as part of the repertoir. Most alphas I have ever known do whores on a regular basis.

Heck, even rockstars who have groupies, still choose to do hoes... Maybe it's because they figured out that you pay a whore to leave (which a groupie might not).

Maybe it's because being an alpha is ultimately about figuring out that you respect yourself, your time and your resources too much to leave it up to chance.

An alpha wants complete dominion over his time and resources. He wants complete control, without any randomness or vagueness.

Fair points.

I think from a female perspective, a rich powerful guy who pays call girls is still desirable. Who is that Italian PM? That kind of guy. Or like Charlie Sheen.

But the insight is useless in two vital areas:
(1) Bride-finding
and (2) Married Life

In both those areas, "Game" will improve results.

I suppose what I am saying is that "game" should be a tool to get what you want, not a lifestyle or an end in itself.

[fschmidt]

But the insight is useless in two vital areas:
(1) Bride-finding
and (2) Married Life

In both those areas, "Game" will improve results.

I am not sure about that. I was successful in these two vital areas without having game. I think the reason is that wife material is fundamentally different from bang material, and game is designed for the latter.

[Jester]

But the insight is useless in two vital areas:
(1) Bride-finding
and (2) Married Life

In both those areas, "Game" will improve results.

I am not sure about that. I was successful in these two vital areas without having game. I think the reason is that wife material is fundamentally different from bang material, and game is designed for the latter.

Annoyingly, you are a natural alpha, and coast by without consciously using game. (You may recall, that is how I assessed you when we met in TJ.)

Following your example would be bad advice for most men.

In my case for example, I was trained from childhood to get along, comply, go along with the program (albeit a highly unusual program). I am not the self-directed hardass you are. So a touch of game helps remind me to look out for myself. Maybe not so much manipulating someone else, as inoculating myself against BEING manipulated.

[fschmidt]

Okay Jester, I think you are right. But I think there is a difference between PUA-game and wife-game. PUA-game is mostly omega while wife-game is mostly alpha. Teaching alpha behavior (independence and leadership) is a good idea.

[HouseMD]

PUA and paying for sex are both beta as ****.

Improve yourself as a man, and the women come to you, regardless of what country you're in.

[fschmidt]

Improve yourself as a man, and the women come to you, regardless of what country you're in.

If you believe this, then I have some great swampland to sell you.

[HouseMD]

I do well both in and out of country. So I'll keep believing it, because in my case it's totally true.

[Ghost]

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[Cornfed]

I do well both in and out of country. So I'll keep believing it, because in my case it's totally true.

Improving yourself in areas that confer high status might cause sluts to come to you, but as a general rule your statement is absurd. It is commonly observed that it is the scum that and degenerates, both rich and poor, that most sluts are attracted to. How do you know you yourself are not a member of this class and it is not your own inherent worthlessness that attracts sluts?

[Jester]

Okay Jester, I think you are right. But I think there is a difference between PUA-game and wife-game. PUA-game is mostly omega while wife-game is mostly alpha. Teaching alpha behavior (independence and leadership) is a good idea.

+1

I would love to interview you on this topic.

[Jester]

PUA and paying for sex are both beta as ****.

Improve yourself as a man, and the women come to you, regardless of what country you're in.

House it is GOOD to see you posting.

PS Your comment here is what I personally need to hear. Thanks.

[Jester]

Damn, House stirred up reaction.

It's a FORMULA, people. As in MATH.
Maybe it's L x S x G = R
Location x SelfImprovement x Genetics = Results
If one factor is zero, it drags down the others
The factors we can CONTROL are L and S
Lets f'ing CONTROL them, then, and f'ing MAX THE F OUT.

I mean what else IS there?

[Cornfed]

Damn, House stirred up reaction.

It's a FORMULA, people. As in MATH.
Maybe it's L x S x G = R
Location x SelfImprovement x Genetics = Results
If one factor is zero, it drags down the others
The factors we can CONTROL are L and S
Lets f'ing CONTROL them, then, and f'ing MAX THE F OUT.

I mean what else IS there?

I'm going to ask the same question to you that I recently did to my uncle who thinks he is worldly wise: Did it ever occur to you that you might be a silly old fool living in the past?