Fake positive attitude junkie people

[Winston]

Core delusions of positive attitude junkie types:

1. Everything is wonderful.
2. Everyone is friendly.
3. Life is beautiful.
4. Happiness is a choice. You can choose it any time.
5. If you are always positive and allow no negativity in your life, then nothing bad can happen to you.

Anything that contradicts those things is ignored, no matter how obvious or true. They are not in touch with reality. They are not realists at all. If you have a problem or complaint, don't expect any sympathy or empathy from these types. They won't give it to you because in their world, your problems don't exist. Unfriendly people don't exist. Nothing sucks. Etc.

These people don't make good friends. They will not be your shoulder to cry on. You cannot talk to them about your problems. They won't want to listen. And if you complain, they will deny everything that's negative or doesn't fit their rosy wonderland world. Do you want friends like that? They may be ok as hang out friends, but you can't have any deep meaningful discussion with them, not if you're a realist, because they are not realists. You can't have a realistic discussion with them. Are those the kind of people you like?

I knew one in Poland. She was a wonderful positive person and a freespirit. She was an avid hitchhiker and well known in hitchhiking circles. Well she went to Africa with her positive attitude, believing that nothing could go wrong as long as she was positive and allowed no negativity into her life. And she ended up dying of malaria. You can see a tribute to her here:

http://www.digihitch.com/tribute/kinga

Here is a Wikipedia article about her:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinga_Choszcz

She ought to serve as a lesson to other positive attitude junkie types, to be realistic and be prepared. You can't just go around with an attitude that if you allow no negativity in your life, then nothing bad will happen to you. It doesn't work that way. You should not enter high risk areas with that attitude either. It's foolish, reckless and could result in terrible consequences. You should not drive with that attitude either, or else you could cause accidents and endanger others. Quit these stupid "you create your reality" delusions, and BE REALISTIC and LOGICAL. Sheesh.

Btw, I happen to have videos of her that are part of my Russia video trip collection. I ought to upload them so that her family and loved ones can have them as a tribute to her.

[Winston]

I am music/ dance junky. So I have my mp3 player. But I have more problems
with aggressive people than happy people also with fake happy people. They all
are annoying. But with my music I will not hear anything.

In fact I try to be the happy guy. But not to make a show but I want to be happy.
The Germans are opposite of being happy. This may sound strange but
exaggerated happiness can be unhealth so is being angry. I think the NAZI´s were
some really angry people.

Do the German people believe what history says about Hitler? Or do they see it as Western propaganda? Was Hitler misportrayed in any way? Some biographers of Hitler, such as David Irving, claim that the real Hitler was misportrayed by history and that he was nowhere the monster that he was portrayed in the West.

[Mr S]

I suggest you read "The Fourth Turning", it explains why each generation acts the way it does and the authors research goes back to the founding of America. It mainly focuses on American generational behavior and history, other countries will have their own cycles and they may be on a different turning than the states.

http://www.fourthturning.com/


They have their own forum and many of the topics seem to be related to what you typically ask a lot Winston regarding Generation Y vs. X:

http://www.fourthturning.com/forum/

[gits]

I gotta respond. I'm a good looking guy, and I've always tried to have an optimistic attitude, however even though I've been told I have a good attitude, it's never gotten me anywhere. In my 43 years experience, nice guys DO finish last.

I've been discriminated in Taiwan for my looks. People think I'm rich and therefore not their type of person. Chicks assume I'm dating. I need to become mean. Coming soon!

[odbo]

In my 43 years experience, nice guys DO finish last.

I need to become mean. Coming soon!

Then you'll just become as miserable as everyone else. And that was the whole point of social engineering women to view cruelty as masculine and nice guys as undesirable. Isn't life great


But this topic isn't about genuinely nice people but rather those positivity addicts which the US corporate environment is famous for. It's like they use their delirium to drown out guilt caused by working for satan and contributing to the destruction of this world. See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil.

You know those creepy science fiction films where every family in town has to pretend everything is perfect and everyone is forced to smile all the time, that's the kind of people we're talking about. Cowards is what they are.

[NorthAmericanguy]

I have a question.

How do you get along with those "positive attitude junkies" who act like life is a wonderland 24/7? They're everywhere now in the Western World and countries exposed to the West. Many good looking Gen Yers usually develop that attitude for some reason, esp if they are popular and hip. You know what I mean?

There are many people in the young generation today who act like everything is awesome 24/7. They frequently use words like "Life is beautiful", "Awesome", "Great" etc. They act like life is a wonderland 24/7 and nothing negative exists. I thought they only existed on TV, but they exist in real life too. They are usually on a superficial wavelength too, not a deep one. And they are usually well liked, praised, and hip.

Most of these types are from America, and are usually female and good looking, but I've noticed that many English speaking Taiwanese girls are like that too (such as Janet Hsieh on Discovery Channel's Fun Taiwan series). Where does that delusion come from exactly? How do they get that way? Are they serious? Or in denial?

How do you get along with these types? How do you have a conversation with them? Around them, I get the feeling like if I say even one thing negative, they'll avoid me. I also get the vibe that deep meaningful topics are "abnormal" to their wavelength.

Many of these types are attractive, good looking, and hip. So they draw people to them. A perfect example is Janet Hsieh, host of Fun Taiwan on the Discovery Channel and TLC. She is good looking, bubbly, and acts like everything is a 24/7 wonderland. That combo makes her popular. But her act looks superficial and phony to people who are realists or deeper than her. Plus, no one feels special when she is nice to them, because she's superficially nice to everyone, young and old. Gee.

Not all of them are celebrities though. They also include surfers, skateboarders, backpackers, hippies, New Agers, and lots of other young people.

But how do you get along with these types? By just acting fake and saying positive things about everything? Ick. (I guess some people derive pleasure from negativity and cynicism)

Have any of you met these types before? They seem to be everywhere now, esp among Gen Y. They act so hip and positive that it kind of makes you feel "uncool" if you don't share their attitude. The good thing about them is that they aren't mean to anyone. They aren't very cliquish or judgmental either, but rather, quite inclusive, albeit in a superficial way. You know?

In fact, they are so nice to everyone, that their niceness becomes meaningless, so that when they are nice to you, it feels like nothing special, since they are that way to everyone. lol. Know what I mean?

You also feel like you can't really bond or connect with them, cause they sort of "belong to everyone". So if they are hot, then they have tons of admirers. She is nice to all of them, but never serious about any of them.

Don't these 24/7 positive attitude types know that 75 percent of people are in poverty, that there's more suffering in the world than happiness, that life is not a wonderful, but a cycle of happiness and suffering?

Don't they know that evil people run the world, and that most things you're told are lies and propaganda, that most people aren't happy, etc.?

Are these types really able to avoid suffering by denying it out of their reality? They certainly act like they can. And if you ask them, they will say that they don't like to focus on the negative. They focus on the positive, and attract positive things, and that's their secret to happiness. Is it really that simple? Geez. So that's the key to happiness? It's been in front of our noses all the time! LOL OK!

I would venture to guess that since they're usually good looking, they were treated very well from birth, and given a lot of love and attention by everyone, hence their overly positive peppy attitude. So they can't really relate to anyone beneath them. They harbor no resentment, ill will, or regret either, since they've never really suffered. And no one has ever treated them like shit. So when they grow up, they are able to return all that niceness back, by acting superficially nice to everyone, and having a positive attitude 24/7. Is that why they are like that? If so, then I guess only those resentful in life, who have suffered a lot, dislike their attitude?

Could that be? Are there really people in life who have never suffered?

These types avoid comparing cultures and people like the plague. And they avoid all forms of political incorrectness. Nothing politically incorrect ever comes out of their mouths. If they hear me give my culture comparisons in my usual detailed insightful way, they will remain silent, since they avoid argument, debate or negative observations of any sort, no matter how true. Or they will disagree with me in a polite way, but when I bring up many examples, experiences and facts to support my comparisons, they usually quit and go into silent mode, for they seem incapable of offering counter-argument points other than the popular female cliche "Not all are like that" which women love to use for some reason, but is pointless since no one is saying that "all are like that".

For some reason, these people are blind to patterns, as though everything were equal everywhere, which is not true, but they can never define their views clearly and have no real argument. They simply dislike observations, patterns and debate of any kind. All they want to do is have fun and act cool, like everything is great 24/7, and that's all. Such people would probably make the worst chess players. lol

Do any of you understand these types? Have you met them? Any experiences you've had with them? Any insights into them?

What are they called exactly? I know they hate labels, but what can you call them? I don't know. Perhaps "positive attitude junkies"? lol

In defense of these good looking positive people I believe that people reflect back how the world generally treats them so it's not always fake.

You figure, a good looking young woman always has men (and even ugly women) looking after her well being and being civil and polite to her. These type of women get taken out to dinner/trips and pay nothing, they get jobs easier and they are never forced to be alone because everybody is trying to fight to be close in her company.

The same can be true for tall handsome men but it works to a much lesser degree unless people know they have a lot of money or a good career/business. So you figure, why should these people be down in the dumps, negative, or unhappy when they live in a society that constantly caters to them and kisses their feet?

So my point is, these people don't really experience the harsh social realities of life (i.e., ostracization, deprived sexual/social life ) as say, an overweight less aesthetically pleasing person would, so they are generally more happy and it's genuine.

[NorthAmericanguy]

Core delusions of positive attitude junkie types:

1. Everything is wonderful.
2. Everyone is friendly.
3. Life is beautiful.
4. Happiness is a choice. You can choose it any time.
5. If you are always positive and allow no negativity in your life, then nothing bad can happen to you.
.

It's not delusional if they are REALLY living this kind of life. Trust me, there are many young people who have ZERO money worries (i.e., trust fund babies), they are in satisfying relationships and everything in their life is going well.

[NorthAmericanguy]

I gotta respond. I'm a good looking guy, and I've always tried to have an optimistic attitude, however even though I've been told I have a good attitude, it's never gotten me anywhere. In my 43 years experience, nice guys DO finish last.

I need to become mean. Coming soon!

I know what you mean, I experienced what you just spoke of when I deal with people who live in the Eastern part of the United States (i.e., NYC, NJ, PA).

The people over here are so nasty and rude its just pointless to be nice to them because all they understand is indifferent crass interactions.

For example, about a month ago I ran into my neighbor as I was coming out my door from my apartment and I gave him a big smile, full eye contact and said "Hi!" The guy then gave me a strange look, then rolled his eyes and said "wats up" in a half hearted way as if he rather not have even spoken to me. I was taken back, this was my NEIGHBOR! You know, the person I hope knocks on my door if there is a fire or somebody I hope I can get assistance from if I'm in some kind of emergency. WTF? The dude and his girl then later moved out without saying so much as a goodbye after being a neighbor for a YEAR. Again, WTF?

I got to admit, it's rather terrifying walking around in a place/time period where nobody cares about your general well being anymore. I did not grow up this way back in the 1980s!! I knew everybody on my block (and around the corners!); people came to my house for help and likewise I went to other peoples homes to get help if and when needed.

Anyhow, I REFUSE to stoop to their level because I don't want to wind up like another rude, fat, nasty American so all you can do is MOVE to an area where people are more friendly, civil and polite

[Taco]

I think the positive, happy, junkie movement is a by-product of the high rate of narcissism in American culture. Narcissists, love it when people blow smoke up their ass about how wonderful they are and they'll pay for someone to do it, like these guys.


Tony Robbins
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cpc-t-Uwv1I

Les Brown
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpLFq4R_StI

Stephen Covey
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8LM4C1l70U

Joel Osteen (makes $75 million/yr.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qp8KixxAk60

[Winston]

Hey folks, check out this study. It says that happy go lucky types of people often die younger, because they take careless risks with their life and health. So don't try to emulate them.

http://www.world-science.net/othernews/110311_happy.htm

[krnshorty213]

its just a front.