What females find attractive revisited

[Cornfed]

In most climates, females are dependent on men for their survival. Generally this male support comes as a package deal in the form of a husband and his family, from whom the female gets her provision, protection, emotional support, sex, entertainment etc.

In current Western dystopias, the essentials of provision and protection are taken care of by the system for young, attractive females. This has the effect of skewing the market for other things that men provide in favor of females, and also meaning they can shop around for different things from different men. It is a bit like you might shop for your work clothes at one store, your house clothes at another store and your formal clothes at yet another. Or a bit like getting different services from different professionals.

Hence females might have their emotional support guy, their dinner date guy, their helpful fix-it guy and their sex and entertainment guy. People talk about "beta orbiters" that females are stringing along, but that is probably not how they see it, and they probably do not see the non-sex guys as having less status or being more "beta" than the sex guys. It is just not why they go to them, just like you don't go to a mechanic for health advice or shop for black tie ware at K-mart.

So who would be the sex and entertainment guys? Men associated with having fun of course. Musicians, actors, drug dealers, staff at trendy bars, bikers, criminal underclass, athletes, wealthy playboys etc. What type of personality are they looking for? Men who have fun loving personalities of course. Which is to say men who are blithe, stupid, hedonistic, impulsive, psychopathic, profligate, focused on the moment etc. Anything else is a major buzzkill in this context. It is not that females like these men and hate all other men. It is just that they understandably regard them as the men to go to for sex in the same way as they regard mechanics as the men to go to to fix their cars.

This all makes perfect sense in the situation imposed on us. Realizing this causes me to despise Western skanks a little bit less.

[gsjackson]

The appeal of "bad boys" to women is no mystery. They are simply seen as smarter and more honest. Notwithstanding (or perhaps because of) their status as wards of the state, most of these women down deep regard themselves as worthless, and anyone who treats them as worthless low-lifes is seen as more intelligent and honest than the "nice guys" who put low-lifes on a pedestal -- a true crime against nature -- and lie to them to get sex. Not all women, of course, are low-lifes, but I'd say a very substantial majority now in the U.S. and U.K.

Academia also plays into the dynamic. Beyond basic literacy and numeracy, what's called education is mostly nonsense and indoctrination, and down deep most people realize this. Again, the bad boy who rejects this game early on, who goes his own way, gets credit for a higher level of intelligence, whether merited or not.

[Cornfed]

The appeal of "bad boys" to women is no mystery. They are simply seen as smarter and more honest. Notwithstanding (or perhaps because of) their status as wards of the state, most of these women down deep regard themselves as worthless, and anyone who treats them as worthless low-lifes is seen as more intelligent and honest than the "nice guys" who put low-lifes on a pedestal -- a true crime against nature -- and lie to them to get sex. Not all women, of course, are low-lifes, but I'd say a very substantial majority now in the U.S. and U.K.

Academia also plays into the dynamic. Beyond basic literacy and numeracy, what's called education is mostly nonsense and indoctrination, and down deep most people realize this. Again, the bad boy who rejects this game early on, who goes his own way, gets credit for a higher level of intelligence, whether merited or not.

There are various spins you could put on why skanks copulate with scum which may have validity, but my point is that their seemingly shitty behavior makes perfect sense in the situation we are in, so you don't really need to give these more complex psychological explanations. Also, the explanations are, at best, an oversimplification of the situation. I doubt whether the average incel suddenly starting to treat the females around him like shit would solve the problem in all cases.

[Shemp]

RooshV (back before his mushroom trip and subsequent religious conversion) used the expression "modern women are looking for a clown" yo explain how they choose men for sex. And yes, modern sex-and-the-city type women compartmentalize men: the funny and exciting and naturally handsome sex guy, the faggot to talk about clothes and shoes and makeup with, the respectable high earner to eventually marry and have children with and then divorce rape because he's sexually boring, the army of orbiters to move furniture and fix her computer and do other work for her in exchange for a smile or maybe even a kiss on the cheek if they are really helpful.

So yes, if you want slutty modern women to be sexually attracted to you, you have to be something of a clown, always joking about sex in a flirty sort of way, acting irresponsible so they don't get the mistaken idea that you want a committed relationship. Kradmelder, during a long thread here in which Cornfed participated but learned nothing, gave excellent and very specific and actionable advice to getting pump and dump sex with attractive modern sluts (but only sluts self disciplined enough not to ever go with "kaffirs", meaning South African darkies, he was very particular about that).

[MrMan]

Do any women have 'beta orbiters' after they get out of the high school and college age? I might have seen that in high school. Have you seen that for women over 25 or 30? @Shemp

[Cornfed]

A specific example was given in a youtube video by "high class" male prostitute Sterling Cooper. When his rich clients took him out to dinner he would make sure to impulsively order whatever he wanted on the menu without looking at the price. Trying to save them money by comparing prices would be the wrong move, because that would be a buzzkill and indicate that he was not fit for the purpose they were hiring him for, in the same way that if their accountant was carefree and profligate it would indicate he was not fit for the purpose they were hiring him for. It is not that they like or respect one man more than the other. It is just a matter of getting the right man for the right job.

[MrMan]

Do any women have 'beta orbiters' after they get out of the high school and college age?

In high school, I saw girls with the not-too-masculine friend talking about soap operas. I saw some of that male friend stuff. High school and college are social times during an age where people are more social. Have you seen any women over 30 or even 25 who have a 'beta orbiter'?

[Shemp]

Do any women have 'beta orbiters' after they get out of the high school and college age?

If they are married and not complete sluts, then no. But if single Sex and the City types, which is what we are taking about, then yes.

[Cornfed]

As well as being supported financially by the regime, the current female mindset is supported psychologically by the constant promotion of various forms of sterile sexual perversion. This reinforces the separation of sex from reproduction in susceptible minds, and so gives females the idea of it being purely transactional in nature.

[MrMan]

Do any women have 'beta orbiters' after they get out of the high school and college age?

If they are married and not complete sluts, then no. But if single Sex and the City types, which is what we are taking about, then yes.

Do those types really exist? And do men orbit women in their late 30's and 40's, stuck in orbit where they change their lightbulbs and not sleep with them?