Ok. The photos the OP included were 1) non-nude, 2) quirky, 3) showing girls in their teens, 20 at most. They're basically kids showing off their new bras, their cute face, or their budding beauty. It's naive teenage narcissism in the Facebook and Instagram era, and extremely common everywhere, not just the US. Most if not all of those girls will walk away unscathed by the experience and continue to be who they are or want to be. And if for some of them that means turning into a whore, well let them be. But isn't it a too harsh judgment, to define a teenager doing something silly like that, "damaged goods"? She doesn't even have the maturity to understand the consequences of what she's doing. She has an entire life ahead of her. Girls change, people change. Sometimes to the worse, most of the times they wise/smarten up. I cannot think the US is any worse than many other European or Western societies. Why is the patently obvious to me sounding like the biggest scandalous lie to some of you?***JP*** wrote:Well you don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure it out on the pictures. No self respecting girl would post those types of photographs seeking attention. As far as I'm concerned this is the reason western society is doomed and why us the good guys had enough of these shallow western women. We are no longer the point dexters waiting for them while they get banged by every loser and bad boy. In my eyes those types of women are damaged goods for me. BTW if you trying to change minds here about western women it's not gonna work. Most of us are fed up with the it's the guy's fault excuse and your impossible standards. Pretty much you are preaching to the wrong choir.
But I think you're right JP. I am an Italian man in his late thirties, and I didn't learn to fear women. The beacon figures in my life have been my Mom and my beloved Granny who passed away about 18 years ago. I was given attention, affection and love by an extended family revolving around women, if anything because the men in my family were at work during most of the day. A strong and intelligent mom, a sweet and compassionate granny, a touchy-feely auntie, a grumpy and stuck-up auntie, another silly auntie...and the cute cousin a couple of years older who was my first crush. A pretty (stereo)typical mix.
We Italians get to understand from an early age that female psychology is different from ours, and by the time we are 14/15 most of us start to understand that spending our energies interacting with girls and trying to crack their code (not just their pussies) is a better practice than sitting down watching porn and spraying around semen and grudges. Unlike you Americans who like to prove your worthiness from your first date, we know that our first girlfriends are the path, not the end, so we don't care much whether the girl is hot or ugly, smart or dumb, modest or bitchy. It's a journey into the unknown and, all places being equal, any starting point looks equally plausible.
We never see women as enemies or competitors. They are complementary, which means that understanding who they are and what they want automatically help us understanding who we are and what we need, and vice-versa. This process is not optional, and missing it means having to catch up later and face a higher risk of hooking up with the wrong kind of woman, perhaps an equally immature one, or a cunning, manipulative one who doesn’t have the best interest of the couple in mind.
Perhaps some women in the US are f***ed up to such an extent that you young men have lost all hopes. Yet losing all hopes about all women, not only in the US but in the whole of the West seems to me a gross exaggeration, one that cannot be believed, to any stretch of the imagination.
