Note: please don't be confused, sometimes I used FILIPINO word to mean filipino and filipina in general, a man or woman living in the Philippines by term is called Filipino. thanks
You're welcome. Also keep in mind that the average IQ in the Philippines is 86. How can you say that the literacy rate is 93 percent? How do you know that isn't just exaggeration from school administrators in order to make their school look good?
Also, how can 93 percent literacy be true? What counts as being literate exactly? I mean, if you go out on the street and ask if they know what "hypothetically" or " theoretically" means, you will find that hardly any Filipino knows those words.
Afaik, you already commended me for this on your previous post saying “ Most middle class Filipinas I've met don't use facts or logic when they argue.�
I have already defined what basic literacy is according to the link that I have also provided in my previous post. I have not made it up nor some school made that claim, there are a lot of links/studies that say so just google it up but if you find those majority≠right, then there’s nothing I can do and I refuse to further argue with this one, we are all entitled to our opinion so I respect yours.
Why do you give so much fuss on the word “hypothetically� or “theoretically� as a sign of great intelligence, do you even use this on a day-to-day basis? Hello... Winston, English is not our mother tongue go anywhere else where English is only a secondary language and see if they also use such words on the street. Do you want to hear things like:
GF: hey, Winston honey hypothetically, if I am going to cook this rice and fish we will have food for breakfast. Winston: yes hon, go ahead and do it. GF: But you know Winston honey, I only know how to cook theoretically!
Seriously, I have been to Singapore recently, and while like the Philippines, English is one of their official languages I find it hard to communicate English with the taxi drivers and even their tour guides having difficulty pronouncing English. Bottomline is, not because one does not know much of the superfluous, complicated English words let alone use it on a regular speaking basis does not automatically mean his iQ is below average because really acquiring an extensive vocabulary is one of the largest challenges in learning a second language. Filipinos/Filipinas not exempted.
Ok then tell me this then:
- Why don't Filipinos commonly say "I'll bring you a pasalubong" too? Why isn't that part of the culture? Why have no Filipinas said that to me?
I would like to understand really the kind of Filipinas/Filipinos that surround you because for me really it’s a normal thing to hear such, “
don’t forget my pasalubong� and at the same time “
what do you want me to bring you for a pasalubong.� I wish you have read the link I posted on my previous post about what is a Pasalubong because I really wanted to let you understand the basic concept of it. FYI, it is our tradition,
directed for US Filipinos, a lot of Filipinas may have told you or asked for a Pasalubong because maybe they already feel you are part of their life and considers you a friend , the thing is we practiced it, IT IS FOR US FILIPINOS, and I have yet to hear a single Filipina/Filipino who has a complaint about this. Again, it does not have to be fancy and you are not obliged, it is for your own free will to give or not to give. If you are stingy and count every single centavo then just turn a blind eye and a deaf ear the next time you hear someone asking you.
There may not be a single Filipina who says she will bring you a Pasalubong because there’s none from your circle right now who travels a lot or has the money to afford buying you things.
- How come Filipinos (lower and middle class), don't invite me to their barbecues or dinner parties, unless I'm paying for it all? Other foreigners have told me the same thing. If you were a foreigner, maybe you'd understand and be shocked at how people treat you, with no consideration for your budget. You can't deny that that's rude.
Unless, there is an occasion average Filipino family don’t usually have parties. If for some reason your Filipino friend is throwing a b-day party and you’re not invited then that’s the time you should think that there’s something really wrong with you.
A foreigner may not always get the chance to be invited if for example, the host may be reluctant because of the foods he’s preparing (we tend to be cautious on serving food to foreigners because of fear that we will cause you stomach ache) or it may be that he’s ashamed you will just be left out like a fish out of water because the crowd don’t seem to speak English well enough. It will be a torture for the host to see his guest uneasy so to not spoil the fun they might just not invite you.
Or maybe it could be just the hypocrisy running in us, middle to upper class tend to loathe those who resort to dating site for the poor women to escape from poverty but in truth we secretly want to snatch out our neighbour’s handsome foreign boyfriend.
- If you claim that Filipinos are as much givers as well as takers, then explain this: How come if you buy an American or British woman an expensive gift, they will usually say, "I'm sorry I can't accept this. I simply don't reciprocate your feelings toward me, so it wouldn't be right for me to accept this gift. I don't want to feel like I owe you something". But a Filipina will usually say, "Wow! That's for me? Thanks!" with a smile and look of glee, even if she isn't into you or doesn't like you in a romantic way? Even if the gift costs half of all your money, they will still gladly accept it. Doesn't that show that they have no pride or honor? Even a middle class girl I met from Couchsurfing.com in Manila, who is a fashion magazine writer, told me that Filipinos don't usually have "honor or pride", not the way Americans do. They just do whatever they want and don't really care." She also said that there is not really a middle class in the Phils, but I forget what her reasons were. Here is her picture that I took. She looks very classy and educated, doesn't she?
Different people have different perceptions on things and situations, for us you would not give someone a gift if it’s not within your budget. A gift for us is a language of love because who‘s on his right mind who will give gifts to the enemies? Perhaps there are but it will be a snake or a bomb. Ladies normally received gifts from suitors and it’s just sooooooooo normal for us to receive gifts from suitors regardless of feelings involved, we even have a saying “to refuse an offer/gift is a great insult.� Okay, you can take this as a taker mentality but it is just the way it is for us, women are pampered, part of our men wooing us. But mind you, I don't think a Filipina will ask you to buy her expensive things, we are not hard to please.
Overall, Filipinas definitely prefer receiving more than giving. The pattern for that is quite clear. Do you still deny that? Every foreigner I've met report the same observation. Do you deny this out of logic or out of pride?
Like it or not, it is already a part of us, although I have to disagree with the taker mentality only because the basic concept of it all were geared towards us Filipinos, it has only evolved to include foreigners who, in one way or another become a part of us already. You can’t understand because you don’t grow up as one of us same with I can’t understand the addiction of your people to Binlang.
We have a lot of different ways and traditions but I guess it’s what makes our world a very interesting and lovely place to live, a place where we constantly explore our different traits and characteristics (not just bodies
). If we all have the same way of life what a boring world it would be, right? We live in a world where there is an endless dichotomy of good and bad, and sometimes we can’t choose only one side so we are left but to accept the whole package.
Nice. But apparently you only know the official version of things.
It looks like you've bought the reasons that were given to the public.
Well, you said that Filipinas don’t know the WW2 history so now at least you know that we do know the history even if let’s say what you think I know is from the official version of things.
Well Phil Health only pays 30 percent to 50 percent of the hospital bills. But poor families cannot even afford to pay half of their bills, especially if it involves expensive surgeries. A lot of their relatives in America are in debt or they become selfish and decide to keep all their overseas earnings to themselves, right?
What about my second question? How come 99 percent of Filipinas claim to have no money and can't even afford a meal at McDonalds, and need someone else to treat them? If that's so, then how do all the stores, malls and restaurants stay in business? That doesn't add up. Who are all the Filipinas I see in supermarket check out lines who open their wallet and have big wad of cash to pay for things? Is this a conspiracy, or a Twilight Zone mystery? Why are Filipinos so uncomfortable about talking about this?
When my father was still running our little town we often have poor coming to us for medicines, hospital bills, and even coffins so aside from PhilHealth for indigents funded/subsidized by the government, politicians have social funds in cases of the ones I mentioned above for their poor constituents.
A typical Filipino Family has one or more relative working abroad. Remittances sent by OFWs contribute to our country's economy, that’s why we call them modern heroes of our lives. There are about 11 million overseas Filipinos estimated count worldwide or about 11% of our total population working and providing for their families back here. Why? Because we are poor and we want to uplift the standard of living for our dear ones and this is because we have this so-called...Ahhh ... mmmm...how do you call this...
tadang! uhhhm.. giver mentality?
About the McDonald thing, you are just exaggerating it. Maybe you are just very stingy..hehe
Ok I promise I won't show your pics or profile to anyone then. You can just PM me your profile link on there. I'm curious to see what you look like. I'm sure you're cute though.
Let me weigh if I will give it to you or not. I am undecided right now, but if ever that I submit to your will, don’t ever publish me or else I will lead the women here for a revolt.. haha..
Why do you dig this forum? Because all the anti-Filipino posts mad you made? Or you enjoyed reading the insight here? This is unusual, because most girls are not interested in this site because there's nothing in it for them. Plus Asian women usually hate reading long articles, that's what they tell me when I send them one of my articles.
As I said, I was just trying to snoop around here. Let's just say it was a serendipitous thing for me to be here and thank you for that.
Anyway, you are really refreshing and a rarity too. So I'm glad you are here.
Thank you.
1. Why do most Filipinas say, when you tell them they are maganda, "Oh I'm not that maganda. There are many other maganda girls here"?
Out of humility or shyness plus we’re brainwashed for our heads not to get big if someone is complementing us...so to moderate we sort of pass the glory to others.
2. How come when you ask a Filipina about her sister and if she's good looking, she always says, "Oh my sister is much more maganda than me", even if it's not true?
Picture this out, I had a cousin who was introduced by our Aunt to her American fellow worker. It was the first time for my cousin and the guy to meet personally, she was 33 back then and I was 25. By western standard I look more beautiful than my cousin and younger, while my relatives were preparing to fetch the guy they had asked me not to come out of the room unless my cousin and the guy were something into a romantic mood with each other already, I sort of get the idea that there might be a transfer of affection that is going to happen if the guy sees me (although, it was just some kind of my relative’s paranoia) so I practically avoided the guy like I have some kind of leprosy and ended emphasizing that my cousin is beautiful and not me.
3. If Filipinas who make a modest income, are glad to help put their relatives by giving them money, aka "loans", then what's the point of make a higher income than others, if you have to give all your "extra" money away? Ever think about that?
Dang! there you again...that’s just the giver mentality in us..
4. Why do Filipinas, when they ask for money, never ask first if you can afford it, or if you are on a budget? What is the reason for assuming that ALL your money is extra money that you don't need? They act as if you are a foreigner or Filipino American, then ALL your cash is extra cash, and if you lose 10,000p, you still have the same amount in your bank, as if 100,000p minus 10,000p = 100,000p, as if money were a bottomless well. I don't get that. Have I misunderstood something?
Wise people save money and don't throw away all their "extra" money (people don't really have extra money unless they are a millionaire"). It's much wiser to save money, or else you'll regret it. Don't you agree?
So are we expected to give away free money to people, until we are broke? And what if we go broke? Do Filipinas still assume that all our money is extra? Why don't they ever ask? Why don't they ever take that into account? I can't comprehend this. Can you?
Admittedly, this is one sad reality, Filipinos tend to believe that every white is rich, mainly because a lot don’t get the actual value of dollar vs peso. The 1-dollar to 40+ pesos is misleading a lot especially the poor, our one peso can only buy us one candy compared to your one dollar, $1 in peso term that’s a loottt of pesoses so they automatically think every white man/women out there is rich and that if you exchange your money with ours you have a lot to spare.
Filipinos earning modestly ALWAYS have extra money to spare for their family. Wise Filipinos will give their relatives investment so they can stop giving them regularly and stand on their own.
If we are broke then we don’t give anything, no one is forcing us to give - it’s innate within us to give to our families you can’t understand this perhaps but for us it where we find most contented, most happy if we can make our family happy.
Regular Filipinos don’t usually work with the aim of retiring one day in a nice country, jetsetting every now and then but are driven to work hard to support their family.
5. What if a poor college student or backpacker from America and living on a tight budget, with less than 2000 dollars in his/her bank account, came to the Philippines? Would locals assume that all his/her cash is EXTRA cash that they don't need too? Do local Filipinos not know that college students and backpackers are usually on a very tight budget?
A lot of Filipinos don’t know who is rich and poor in America, even I, I don’t have any knowledge as to who is poor and what it takes to qualify as poor in your country and I think by Filipino standard your poor is still richer than our poor or our middle class. Just simply tell the locals I AM NOT RICH I, AM AS POOR AS YOU ARE for the message to go straight to them.
It's hard to believe you are not a Filipino-American. Have you ever posted on PinoyExhange forums? Many Filipino Americans post there. It's the largest Pinoy forum in the world.
I am a native Filipina, never lived outside the Philippines and No, I don’t have a single post on Pinoy Exchange, like I said I am just a simple Filipina living in a remote place in Mindanao.
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I just want to tell you this Winston, once and for all. Decent, intelligent, good middle class may not be that snobby as you think, it is just that as far as dating goes we are not used to cold approach, right from the very start we are taught not to talk to strangers.
In cases that we do, we are always on the lookout of what kind of a person are you, are we safe when with you?
Also, our biggest fear is sex, we might be in the generation when virginity does not matter anymore but instinctively we still view sex with some amount of sanctity on it and subconsciously think we would end up cheap and used like a rag if we fall into sex right away. Foreigners have a long-standing bad image that you are here and are after only of sex coupled with some controversies like the Subic rape case and with the recent statement of your Ambassador to the Philippines which even if he retracted but already called Philippines as a sex tourism country, it would not surprise you that we are on our guard the moment someone approaches us.
Another thing also is you look like a Filipino-Chinese. Fil-Chinese here at times are worst than AW. They are known to be rich but the most stingiest creatures in the Philippines, Fil-Chinese don't let their sons marry an average filipinas.
Lastly, this might be a myth but we still hold on to what we believe with man being a hunter by nature. He likes the thrill of the chase and if a prey is chasing him, the hunter loses interest very quickly. A man will always hunger after what seems to be out of his reach and he will value that which he sacrificed a lot to gain. If you got us too easy, the thrill is gone and you start looking elsewhere. So that’s why in a very real sense we have this “pakipot� hard-to-get attitude sometimes which is instilled by our mothers in our mind right from the very first moment she feels we’re infatuated with the opposite sex. I am talking here about the Filipinas with standard that seems impossible for your reach according to your rants.
Have a heart and a love and make it more abundant than your testosterone and I know for sure you’ll find a decent, intelligent, beautiful pinay out there...
