What you're saying here are things that have been pointed out countless times before. A few things that you need to keep in mind is the bigger picture and perspective. We're only 60 odd years removed from the colonial past. WW 1 was the big turning point but WW 2 was the final nail in the coffin for old school imperialism. What we're seeing now is post-colonialism and all its racial and social implications. My father remembers the time when he was told to use the black fountain in the south. That was in the early 60's in the U.S. Think about this for a minute 40 years ago a black man or in my father's case an asian man could not even use the same fountain as a white man. These attitudes and the racial power structure in anglo societies won't go away overnight. Naturally society will lean towards the dominant class of people. There's two sides to the issue as well, it's not so much white people in asia acting and feeling self entitled but asian people in general possessing a colonial mentality as well which allow this to become reality. These mentalities and complexes will not fade in our lifetime.
Yes, precisely. And in case of the Asian colonial powers such as Japan for one, or Thailand ( sort of )- who sees itself as a master of Laos and Cambodia, many also look down on other people in the region and treat them haughtily. And much less politely than any European ever would. Often with no political correctness in speech and by using nasty epithets when they describe the people there. Try listening to the way a Thai talks about Cambodians and see how they treat the Burmese- as subhumans.
And one also needs to keep in mind that while in the US people are conveniently divided into these unnaturally broad "nationalities" such as the whites, the blacks, the Asians, etc., these arbitrary groupings stop at the Anglo borders and others kick in. Sometimes just as vicious. A Japanese person does not wake up in the morning and start muttering to himself- I am Asian, I am Asian. The Japanese just think of themselves as Japanese, not as Asians. Most would not be caught dead making close friends with Koreans or Filipinos, etc and do not put themselves into the same category with them. Except for breeding purposes for older farmers in the outlying regions. So, the colonialist, dominating groups still view those who are below them with scorn. In case of the Asian countries which were colonized by the Brits, the French, etc., yes, I must say you are right, the British visitors or French visitors still act like the own the place. And the locals just lap it up. Malays always want to go on holidays to London, for one. Filipinos love wearing T-shirts with letters USA on them and brag that they have been to the US. In most Asian countries people are amazed if a white person speaks their language because only one in a hundred thousand does and the Asians accept it as a given.
Then you have the modern wage slavery- foreign workers. I have read posts about what many Taiwanese think of Filipinos- it will make your ears fall off.
Now, in Europe, many Germans and Austrians still think of the countries around them as their former colonial slaves. And the Czechs still despise the Slovaks as country bumpkins and cheap workforce. And the Poles think that Ukrainians are their servants and that it is their place in the social order. One Russian lady I spoke with, who is a doctor by the way, came back from the UK and said- "they treated me like sh1t while they were so nice to Indians and treating them like natives". And it seems to be the case in the UK nowadays. People try to be nice to Arabs and Pakistanis and blacks but they look down and sometimes even savagely beat up Poles, Slovaks, Serbians and Russians. And it is not seen as a race crime.
And the white- asian-black division of the US does not apply in most of Europe. A Hungarian does not think himself white, but just Hungarian.
Then you have class snobbery. Rich Asian students in the US act like they own the place, too. The same complaints about them were made in Oz and Nz. I have taught Asian students at language schools in the US and many act uppity and insult teachers. Many treated me like a servant with no respect at all. They thought because they were paying for classes they could behave any way they wanted. Koreans most notably were the rudest. And if you refuse to kowtow to them, they lodge a complaint against you and get you fired. You have no chance! And try working for a Korean boss in the US. Shudder!
An American guy who had taught in China would go to Chinese restaurants in the US and would overhear what the Chinese cooks were saying- "give the pig the soup", things like that. What kind of sh1t is that? What did he do? He was a teacher, studied Chinese assidiously, was respectful and all. And a classical anecdote sums it up -a Korean student in the US whose aunt ran a Korean restaurant in LA somewhere, came to class and said- "yesterday, some foreigners came to our restaurant". "What foreigners?" "AMERICANS!", was his answer. That is classic! They are in America, Canada, Oz, and the local white people are...foreigners! This is worse than being condescending. That is monstrously insulting.
One Japanese was in Guam and he was bragging to me how he was telling white people there "Yankee go home!" The nerve!
So, the behavior of Asian people in the West also leaves a lot to be desired. Some Koreans come to LA and then buy property and try and get rid of all the non Korean tenants. And the rudeness of some Korean store owners was one of the main causes why blacks attacked Korea Town two decades ago. Screaming at white people and black people: " Get out!" Seems like there is no " please", "excuse me" in their vocabulary at all. Many look sulky and sullen and talk rude.
I used to go to an Asian restaurant in Alhambra Ca and they were giving me funny looks, looking down their noses at me, giving me curled up lips and all. WTF?
Mind you not all do that, some are really nice, but again, many white people in Asia are also nice, you can't deny that.
So, welcome to the hierarchy. Race, class, money, power. The whites looking down on the Asians and behaving like a colonial overlord or the I-was-here-before-you-when-you-people-came-here to-build-railroads variety US racism is just a tip of the iceberg and only a small part of the way people on this planet look down on each other.
At least in the Anglo countries they have some laws to protect you, and you can sue, and they have political correctness, but in most Asian countries they don't and they don't teach people that it is not OK to stick fingers at people and mutter- the devil, the monkey and things like that. There, parents will be the first ones to point to the child a foreign person and say- Look son, there comes a foreign devil ( or put some other name there).
If a few guys want to take advantage of this congrats, they won the racial lottery.
Some do, but also, many are now burdened with colonial guilt and try to be nice and polite. The Japanese for the large part are not feeling guilty and still call people by bad names and think they are inferior.
I would relax though if I were you, Chanta. It's obvious by your posts you've been in the U.S. way too long and it's polluted your mind with race and has placed a permanent chip on your shoulder. It'd do you a lot of good to get away for awhile and live elsewhere where you can truly be yourself rather than play into these racial power games with others.
Yes, exactly. When you lose sight of the full picture and only see some aspects of it and think of it as full, you are not seeing the world correctly. Your mind wants to simplify things so that you have a clear picture of neat categories- the good guys vs the villains, the victims vs. the arrogant oppressors. Ah, it's not that simple!
Asian people don't have to do anything for white people. that's when white people complain in Asia. ladislav no offense ...I been to Thailand. As a white man ..it's not bad in Thailand.....I don't know why you keep complaining. There places for a white men to get easy p4p play and possible get a local decent girl friend. I been to the airports in Thailand and because I am Asian looking they thought I was Thai and was treated lower compared to this white guy that I was waiting in line with but once they saw my pass port that I was a US citizen they treated me a little bit better.
There are some Thais that sometimes behave that way and also Russians act that way when welcoming who they perceive to be rich guests and they do not want who they see as average locals to be around. I was in Russia with a bunch of Japanese in 1991. The Russians were treating them like kings but they would give me sideways looks and would scrunch up their faces when they saw me walk into a hotel with them. "What are you doing here?" "I am with this group", I would say. Once they would not let me go back upstairs to my group of students saying" That is only for the Japanese". I told them I was their teacher, damn it! Eventually they let me in but with obvious reservations and funny looks.
But that was about receiving guests. Should the Japanese decide to stay, they would see Russia differently. I also saw Thailand as a resident not as a guest. And it was different indeed.
I've never seen this type of treatment. Thai immigration are about the last people on earth to favor whites, heh. Believe me it pays to be mistaken as Thai-american. I have seen and been privy to the girls Thai guys get and the girls most foreign expats get. I would rather be in the Thai dating pool any day of the week. I don't know how it is in Korea but Thai-Americans in Thailand tend to get the very top pick of the litter.
The exceptional kind of treatment can happen under some circumstances in areas or on some occasions where/when they cater to the farangs. On other occasions, they would not want a farang there when it comes with catering to the Japanese. And on other occasions, they do not want any foreigners around, especially, white ones. And I agree that a Thai American or any Asian American is treated very well in Thailand.
Only in Anglo countries are all Asians dumped into one monolithic group and treated as one. And the same happens to other unrelated groups. And in Japan they would dump all foreigners into one group. It is easier for the human mind. In Japan, they have signs- No Gaijin! That does not mean, white people. It means No Koreans, No Chinese! One Korean student was in Japan and he went to a bar and they slammed the door in his face- GAIJIN DAME! No Foreigners! And one Chinese acquaintance of mine went to a bar in Korea with other Chinese students there and was met with another " No Foreigners" tirade! Foreigners make trouble, no entry! Chinese= foreigners.
Here in the Philippines, it got to the point of ridiculous. In Cebu the wife of the mayor went to a souvenir shop owned by two Koreans- the guard came out and told her- "No Filipinos allowed inside!" CAN YOU F$%&*ING BELIEVE THAT??? This was too much, and she called the cops. The Koreans were arrested and put in jail awaiting deportation. On another occasion a Korean manager smacked a Filipino worker. Again, he was put in an immigration jail.
I was applying for an English teaching job in Manila and the Korean owner was haughty, demanding to see my passport and then he arrogantly asked with his chin up- 'Why do Americans come to the Philippines?' Like he was a long time colonial master of the country. And like this is not a former US Commonwealth. It cost me great effort not to lash out at his pompous mug and smack him.
Some Filipinos, though, can only put up with arrogance for so long. It is a very humble, sweet and polite , non confrontational culture where people treat each other with utmost courtesy, much more so than in any other place I have seen. But those who think they are lords here- beware!
Some Koreans already got killed here for the way they treated the locals. No Brit, no Aussie would be as rude to Pinoys here. The Japanese and the Koreans really take the cake.
So much for Asians as a united mass!
It is bad to look down on all people, period. For Western nationalities to say bad things about Asians, for Asians to stick fingers at white people and use some expletives or for anyone else not to treat people as equals on an individual basis. It is justice, you say? Well, so, now East Europeans should treat Thais and Chinese bad because of Ghenghiz Khan- After all he was an Asian, so now the Chinese are guilty because they are Asians, too? Are you responsible for what he did, too?
I am now on a lonely campaign here in the Philippines as one of the handful of people who speak the Filipino language to the Filipinos ( isn't it the way it should be?) and who is trying to fit in. After me, others will come. And in Asia hopefully they will learn that sticking fingers and shouting- gold headed monster, red haired monkey or constantly calling white people foreigners is also not polite and mend their ways. It is not going to happen overnight but we've got to start somewhere.