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N/AModerators: fschmidt, jamesbond Re: Proffered nationality? Chinese, Taiwanese, Thai, Etc.Assuming a given girl who looked exactly the same for all cases: 1. Taiwan a. No travel hassles - easy to get US visa (may be visa free by next year), visa free to most other first world countries b. Safest for marriage and genuine intentions c. More welcoming to westerners than other developed NE Asian countries 2. SP Similar to 1 plus fluency in English but generally higher standards 3. Japan / S. Korea / HK Easy travel 4. PI Fluency in English, familiarity and affinity for western (esp. American) culture 5. The rest a. Chinese are becoming too proud, have always been fervently nationalistic, and often expect husband to buy a condo b. Thais can forget fast, often out of site, out of mind c. Poorer SE Asians seem like they're from another planet but I've heard good things about Vietnamese and Indonesians
Nationality matters less than if they are ethnic Chinese or not. I find ethnic Chinese women to be more attractive physically and mentally more well put together. A slight mix is fine as well but to me the only ones worth having a long term dating or real relationship with are all obviously ethnic Chinese.
What exactly are you looking for - a bunch of sex with multiple girls, serial dating, a steady LT gf, or a "that's how I met your mother" type of scenario?
In this order (lower doesn't necessarily mean bad):
1. Chinese 2. Vietnamese 3. Thai 4. Japanese 5. Korean 6. Filipina During my time in China, I had very good impressions of ethnic Korean girls that were born and raised in China (朝鲜族). Most of these girls' families come from North or South Korea, and their families wound up in China during the Korean War. Anyways, these girls are basically what you'd get if you blended a Korean girl with a Chinese girl, which comes out quite nice. These girls often seem much more intelligent and hard-working than their Han-Chinese counterparts. They often speak several languages - such as Korean, Mandarin, Japanese, and English. They often dress well and stay slim. They're very responsible mothers. They're usually more open-minded towards things not Chinese/Korean. And they're also more humble and a little less nationalistic than their South Korean counterparts (because their nationality is Chinese, not South Korean). The only downside to them is I'm sure their families will give them hell for dating a foreigner. For example, many of them won't even date a Han-Chinese guy, because their families put pressure on them to only date other ethnic Korean guys. So, if you can ever go on a date with an ethnic Korean girl while in China, I suggest you do it. Just try to get on her family's good side, haha. China, like most less developed countries, especially those which don't lick the Western media's behinds, gets a lot of bad press in so many respects.
But I'm pretty sure from my experience that if you're looking at oriental girls per se (Chinese, Korean, and Japanese), the Asian country with the highest % of good quality, down-to-earth, uncorrupted (by western values), un-spoilt women is China. Most Chinese women (in China) that I've gotten to know are friendly, down-to-earth, loyal, relatively innocent, and most importantly, humble without a inflated sense of self importance, ego, and image-consciousness which you see far more off in the developed Asian countries. I still see lots of couples in China getting married without being able to afford to purchase a flat (still renting, which is often subsidized by the company). Most urban men in China earn about $500 - $900 USD a month but are still getting married. China probably has a higher rate of marriage and rate of couples getting married at a younger age than any of the developed asian countries. Now if the women are all picky and money-obsessed as seems to be the general stereotype created by the western media, how are so many of these men earning less than $1000 USD a month getting married at younger ages? Many women in China still feel incomplete without a man (which is what feminism has successfully diminished in many other more feminized countries), and feel pressure to get married before 30. They're feminine and expect men to lead, while interacting with them is much more natural and without mind games, so as long as either your mandarin or their English is decent. There are loads of good quality, available, young, attractive Chinese women in China and this percentage is far higher than in any developed asian country, where most attractive women are spoilt, narcissistic and almost always not single. Go to any dating website like china love links for example and you'll see that as long as you're decent looking, your response rate that would be far higher than you expect, with many decent looking women contacting you or being open to get to know you better. Just not Korean and Japanese.
Why? Even though they can be very friendly, at the end of the day, Koreans and Japanese are highly ethnocentric and prejudiced against all other nationalities (no offense to our Korean and Japanese members here). Until recently, Korea and Japan have long histories of being closed off to the outside world. With rare exceptions, ethnic Chinese, Japanese, and Korean families simply cannot feel comfortable as in-laws, and will likely not get along. Furthermore, the Chinese have easily intermarried with every single Southeast Asian nationality, but not with the Koreans and Japanese. And Korean immigrant kids in California schools are by far the most cliquish out of all the Asian immigrant kids. Chinese people are also this way, though to a lesser extent. This is because China is highly ethnically diverse, while Korea and Japan are completely homogeneous, with the exception of the Ainu in Japan and recent migrant workers and mail-order brides. Except for Korea, Japan, and a few Arab countries, every single other country on the Asian continent has dozens of ethnic groups that can be considered native to that country's territory. Since I come from a culturally Chinese family, my preferences are, in no particular order: Filipino, Thai, Lao, Burmese, Cambodian. Plus, I can pass for all of these nationalities, but definitely not Korean. I also would feel uncomfortable marrying into a Vietnamese, Malay, or Indonesian family. I see plenty of Americanized East Asian kids dating those of different East Asian nationalities, but the non-Americanized ones will almost never do so. The Chinese is quite a broad category when you want to objectify them compared to let's say Korean and Japanese women.
Usually Korean and Japanese women are more fashionable and well kept. Taiwanese women in generally look after themselves better than their Mainland counterparts. But I'm not that attracted to them, physically or culturally. China is a mixed bag. The country has women with slightly different features from all corners from the country. But they usually have the same style!!!! And from I gather, a lot of Chinese women's style is not quite as solid looking compared to Korean and Japanese women's fashion. There are still lots of women that don't know how to present themselves as well. There isn't as much pressure in China compared to Korea or Japan to dress nice. It's still a 3rd world country for the most part. However chinese girls are getting better and better. I want to go to China to explore the different girls lol. I think Mongolian Girls, Siberian Girls, and Kazakh and Kyrgyz are on the top of current my list. Hard to find them in Canada. And even if I do find them, I'd hate to meet a Canadian washed one.........not because I detest the culture, but it means there is less to explore with her. The Altaic girls very beautiful. But I don't think their culture is as "rich" as east asian cultures. |
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