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davewe
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Rock wrote:
If you wanna give to the less fortunate, there are many legitimate ways to do it rather than getting cheated so frequently.

If anyone needs money for any reason at any time in any country (USA included), just make a polite excuse to deny them. It's really that simple Lad. Even Winston, the guy who signed over $1,500 to a Nevada brothel has pretty much managed not to be scammed in Philippines. If you learn how to say "sorry" and "no", then you cut out a huge percentage of the scam possibilities. All that's left are holdup pings/muggings, pickpocetings/snatchings, and more elaborate investment/consumption ripoffs.

A slightly more sophisticated scam was being perpetrated in LA area not too long ago. It involved callers who had somehow managed to glean personal data on individuals, pretended to be from the IRS, and would call these people up posing as IRS agents. They basically convinced the people they were indeed from the IRS (otherwise how would they know for instance the last 4 digits of your social), acted like they were about to execute an audit because they believed tax fraud had occurred and that a certain amount of underpaid taxes plus penalties and interest had already been accessed (usually 10s of thousands of dollars), but due to shortage of manpower, they were offering a quick solution (no audit and wipe the slate clean) - just wire something much smaller figure (like say $3,239) to such and such a party/account by the end of the day. This really worked on quite a few people because it scared the hell out of them and panic tends to override rational thinking.
Totally agree. I have no problem with the declaration that there are lots of liars, scammers and thieves in the Philippines. I only object to the wild notion that there are not such people in our home countries. Here's an interesting statistic kept annually in the US on employee theft/fraud:

Amount stolen annually from U.S. businesses by employees $50,000,000,000
Percent of annual revenues lost to theft or fraud 7 %
Percent of employees who have stolen at least once from their employer 75 %
Percent of employees who have stolen at least twice from their employer 37.5 %
Percent of all business bankruptcies caused by employee theft 33 %

The last stat is particularly telling: % of bankruptcies cause by employee theft. For small businesses the biggest risk is not government paperwork or even taxes - it's employee theft.

Most of us in our home countries are immune (or feel immune) to cons and scams, because we have lived there our entire lives and know the score. But that doesn't mean that people are not scammed every day. As I said before, "knowledge is the key," You know how things are supposed to work in your home country, so are less likely to be cheated. You don't know how things are supposed to work in a foreign country and so are more likely to be a victim. Add to that the fact that most guys in a 3rd world nation are being led by their pecker and bad things can happen.
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Ghost wrote:
MarcosZeitola wrote:
I didn't lose that $1000 to a scam. It was a robbery by my gf's brother. Her f***ing brother. I expect taxi drivers to be assholes, expecting 1000 php to take me 5 kilometers. But if you can't trust your gf's family? That is extreme degeneracy. Just like Ladislav said. I've told you how psychopathic and stupid my ex-gf's brother's actions were and you are still making excuses because he is a little brown asshole. f**k off.
You won't be able to trust your girlfriends family, that's true. You should have stayed in a hotel to avoid them. If you live in the Philippines with your Filipina its recommended you move to another city far from your wives family because they will cause lots of problems for you.

I had problems with my wife's brother too. When he's not drunk, high on shaboo(meth) or gambling he enjoys lying, cheating and stealing in his spare time. I noticed we didn't make much money the days he worked in my wife's Sari Sari store so we stopped asking him for help. Then one day he decided it would be a good idea to charge me for 6 months back rent because he was a part owner of the house we were living in at the time, there was no rental contract. That's when I lost it.

Important safety tip, its not a good idea to start yelling or accuse Filipinos of cheating you because they will kill you if they get offended. I've seen it happen. Just walk away smiling if you can. Your in the Philippines which means you have to deal with your problems the Filipino way.

Just remember, everyone gets ripped off in the Philippines at some point. You try to keep it to a minimum but you know its going to happen. The bitch at Philippine airlines tried to charge me $200 to change my flight when it only cost $.25. A few months later that Philippines airline office closed down for some strange reason.
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ultimately this boyfriend girlfriend thing is a business to many of these girls. Sure they will do a few things and give you sex to pretend they love but i guarantee you if another sap comes along that is a better deal or you dump them and they go back to the dating site they will be banging him and moving in just as fast and you will be all forgotten cause they have a new money train. Im lonely here in America, BUT at least i get the satisfaction of keeping my money and focusing strictly on my work which means its just that much faster to retirement. In a way i have more respect for the MGTOW guys they are less delusional then many of the expats like marcos and outwest. I dont include publicduende cause hes doesn't believe what he says either he is in london making lots of money and skipped out of asia yet pretends he did so well there, to bring his mail order columbian bride.
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Taco wrote:
Ghost wrote:
MarcosZeitola wrote:
I didn't lose that $1000 to a scam. It was a robbery by my gf's brother. Her f***ing brother. I expect taxi drivers to be assholes, expecting 1000 php to take me 5 kilometers. But if you can't trust your gf's family? That is extreme degeneracy. Just like Ladislav said. I've told you how psychopathic and stupid my ex-gf's brother's actions were and you are still making excuses because he is a little brown asshole. f**k off.
You won't be able to trust your girlfriends family, that's true. You should have stayed in a hotel to avoid them. If you live in the Philippines with your Filipina its recommended you move to another city far from your wives family because they will cause lots of problems for you.

I had problems with my wife's brother too. When he's not drunk, high on shaboo(meth) or gambling he enjoys lying, cheating and stealing in his spare time. I noticed we didn't make much money the days he worked in my wife's Sari Sari store so we stopped asking him for help. Then one day he decided it would be a good idea to charge me for 6 months back rent because he was a part owner of the house we were living in at the time, there was no rental contract. That's when I lost it.

Important safety tip, its not a good idea to start yelling or accuse Filipinos of cheating you because they will kill you if they get offended. I've seen it happen. Just walk away smiling if you can. Your in the Philippines which means you have to deal with your problems the Filipino way.

Just remember, everyone gets ripped off in the Philippines at some point. You try to keep it to a minimum but you know its going to happen. The bitch at Philippine airlines tried to charge me $200 to change my flight when it only cost $.25. A few months later that Philippines airline office closed down for some strange reason.

They always charge me 200 dollars to change my philippine airlines flight date. Thats the standard fee PLUS whatever the ticket price difference is. One time i got charge almost 600 dollars to change the return date abd add a 3 month extension. Only 300 bucks less than if i had bought a brand new one way ticket home LOL
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newlifeinphilippines wrote:ultimately this boyfriend girlfriend thing is a business to many of these girls. Sure they will do a few things and give you sex to pretend they love but i guarantee you if another sap comes along that is a better deal or you dump them and they go back to the dating site they will be banging him and moving in just as fast and you will be all forgotten. Im lonely here in America, BUT at least i get the satisfaction of keeping my money and focusing strictly on my work which means its just that much faster to retirement.
Its a mistake to believe all Filipina/foreigner relationships are scams. However, I would say at least 70% of the relationships are scams to some degree. Many expats are aware their being scammed but still stay with the woman because she's not as bad as AW.

My wife worries about me constantly, doesn't lie to me, works hard to make me happy and wants sex more than I do. That's how I know she's a keeper.
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Taco wrote:
newlifeinphilippines wrote:ultimately this boyfriend girlfriend thing is a business to many of these girls. Sure they will do a few things and give you sex to pretend they love but i guarantee you if another sap comes along that is a better deal or you dump them and they go back to the dating site they will be banging him and moving in just as fast and you will be all forgotten. Im lonely here in America, BUT at least i get the satisfaction of keeping my money and focusing strictly on my work which means its just that much faster to retirement.
Its a mistake to believe all Filipina/foreigner relationships are scams. However, I would say at least 70% of the relationships are scams to some degree. Many expats are aware their being scammed but still stay with the woman because she's not as bad as AW.

My wife worries about me constantly, doesn't lie to me, works hard to make me happy and wants sex more than I do. That's how I know she's a keeper.
and thats the problem its a scam to a "degree". For example my current gf was not a blatant scammer or even a semi-pro however it was on the lower end of low hanging mutually beneficial type relationship where deep down some may have classified it as a scam or at least not genuine love or whatever. I snuck into her dating site when i went home and she was offering to meet or go with any guy that messaged her basically move in LOL i dont think she found a guy to do that and she still messages me but denies she has any guys. But the point is some of these girls will move in or screw any guy that throws the bait whether hes black korean old young or a douchebag or even if they have talked on skype yet. SOme are just that desperate. Even with my bargirl she put on teh act and it wasn't a total scam cause i got what i wanted and was treated well but it was a scam. The scams are basically acting and its hard to say which ones are obvious scams or more of a grey area.
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I purposely left valuables at my girlfriends house when I was in the Philippines and no one in her family did shit to them. But then again, they are probably middle class, given her dad earns the equivalent of $1600/mn when the minimum wage there is like $200/mn. I just new they weren't dumb enough to mess this deal up for their daughter, as shes been crazy as hell for me since the 1st chat last year. But I just had to prove it to myself. So I especially don't blame the opening thread for being pissed. To me, it seems I would be more angry that anyone could be so dumb, more than I would about the lost money.
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newlifeinphilippines wrote:
Taco wrote:
Ghost wrote:
MarcosZeitola wrote:
I didn't lose that $1000 to a scam. It was a robbery by my gf's brother. Her f***ing brother. I expect taxi drivers to be assholes, expecting 1000 php to take me 5 kilometers. But if you can't trust your gf's family? That is extreme degeneracy. Just like Ladislav said. I've told you how psychopathic and stupid my ex-gf's brother's actions were and you are still making excuses because he is a little brown asshole. f**k off.
You won't be able to trust your girlfriends family, that's true. You should have stayed in a hotel to avoid them. If you live in the Philippines with your Filipina its recommended you move to another city far from your wives family because they will cause lots of problems for you.

I had problems with my wife's brother too. When he's not drunk, high on shaboo(meth) or gambling he enjoys lying, cheating and stealing in his spare time. I noticed we didn't make much money the days he worked in my wife's Sari Sari store so we stopped asking him for help. Then one day he decided it would be a good idea to charge me for 6 months back rent because he was a part owner of the house we were living in at the time, there was no rental contract. That's when I lost it.

Important safety tip, its not a good idea to start yelling or accuse Filipinos of cheating you because they will kill you if they get offended. I've seen it happen. Just walk away smiling if you can. Your in the Philippines which means you have to deal with your problems the Filipino way.

Just remember, everyone gets ripped off in the Philippines at some point. You try to keep it to a minimum but you know its going to happen. The bitch at Philippine airlines tried to charge me $200 to change my flight when it only cost $.25. A few months later that Philippines airline office closed down for some strange reason.

They always charge me 200 dollars to change my philippine airlines flight date. Thats the standard fee PLUS whatever the ticket price difference is. One time i got charge almost 600 dollars to change the return date abd add a 3 month extension. Only 300 bucks less than if i had bought a brand new one way ticket home LOL
Your getting scammed, their lying to you. The cost to get the flight changed is only 10 pesos. Air Canada only charges $50 to change a flight. You can get a return flight from Cebu to HK for less than $200. $200 is a months salary for the sales people at Philippine airlines.

The bitch at Philippine airlines told me Air Canada charges $200 to change my flight. I knew she was lying because Air Canada only charges $50 because I had it done before in China. I went to get the money to change my flight and when I came back a different cashier helped me and only charged me 10 pesos! I was really mad but they had armed security guards at the office so I just walked away without saying anything.
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Taco wrote:
newlifeinphilippines wrote:
Taco wrote:
Ghost wrote:
MarcosZeitola wrote:
I didn't lose that $1000 to a scam. It was a robbery by my gf's brother. Her f***ing brother. I expect taxi drivers to be assholes, expecting 1000 php to take me 5 kilometers. But if you can't trust your gf's family? That is extreme degeneracy. Just like Ladislav said. I've told you how psychopathic and stupid my ex-gf's brother's actions were and you are still making excuses because he is a little brown asshole. f**k off.
You won't be able to trust your girlfriends family, that's true. You should have stayed in a hotel to avoid them. If you live in the Philippines with your Filipina its recommended you move to another city far from your wives family because they will cause lots of problems for you.

I had problems with my wife's brother too. When he's not drunk, high on shaboo(meth) or gambling he enjoys lying, cheating and stealing in his spare time. I noticed we didn't make much money the days he worked in my wife's Sari Sari store so we stopped asking him for help. Then one day he decided it would be a good idea to charge me for 6 months back rent because he was a part owner of the house we were living in at the time, there was no rental contract. That's when I lost it.

Important safety tip, its not a good idea to start yelling or accuse Filipinos of cheating you because they will kill you if they get offended. I've seen it happen. Just walk away smiling if you can. Your in the Philippines which means you have to deal with your problems the Filipino way.

Just remember, everyone gets ripped off in the Philippines at some point. You try to keep it to a minimum but you know its going to happen. The bitch at Philippine airlines tried to charge me $200 to change my flight when it only cost $.25. A few months later that Philippines airline office closed down for some strange reason.

They always charge me 200 dollars to change my philippine airlines flight date. Thats the standard fee PLUS whatever the ticket price difference is. One time i got charge almost 600 dollars to change the return date abd add a 3 month extension. Only 300 bucks less than if i had bought a brand new one way ticket home LOL
Your getting scammed, their lying to you. The cost to get the flight changed is only 10 pesos. Air Canada only charges $50 to change a flight. You can get a flight from Cebu to HK for less than $200. $200 is a months salary for the sales people at Philippine airlines.
Its over the phone they do it and the los angeles office processes it. If you look at the website i think thats even stated the official charge but youd have to doublecheck.


Anyways Screw traveling. Its gonna take me years to retire even if i can with my risky income. Id rather be alone and drama free with my cash then destitute on the street cause i gave it away or spent to stay in philippines and keep up with some ungrateful filipina low hanger. No one even follows there advice here everyone is in america making money or bringing their wives back. Im starting to respect the MGTOW crew more they realize women are the same everywhere and dont try to run to foreign coutnries and pretend they are high and mighty over others who failed cause they found their virgin wife.
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Ghost wrote:
Again, I'm waiting for anyone to give me any reasonable argument for why I should not pump n' dump in the Phils and go to a civilized place (like China) for a serious relationship.
Since you already defined that you don't like the place and think they are all scammers and will only return to pump and dump - well, you gotta consider the possibility that no one cares. You're an adult - do what you want. Never been to China but I've heard some good things. If you believe you can get your virgin there - go for it.
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Ghost wrote:
Taco wrote:
Ghost wrote: I didn't lose that $1000 to a scam. It was a robbery by my gf's brother. Her f***ing brother. I expect taxi drivers to be assholes, expecting 1000 php to take me 5 kilometers. But if you can't trust your gf's family? That is extreme degeneracy. Just like Ladislav said. I've told you how psychopathic and stupid my ex-gf's brother's actions were and you are still making excuses because he is a little brown asshole. f**k off.
You won't be able to trust your girlfriends family, that's true. You should have stayed in a hotel to avoid them. If you live in the Philippines with your Filipina its recommended you move to another city far from your wives family because they will cause lots of problems for you.

I had problems with my wife's brother too. When he's not drunk, high on shaboo(meth) or gambling he enjoys lying, cheating and stealing in his spare time. I noticed we didn't make much money the days he worked in my wife's Sari Sari store so we stopped asking him for help. Then one day he decided it would be a good idea to charge me for 6 months back rent because he was a part owner of the house we were living in at the time, there was no rental contract. That's when I lost it.

Important safety tip, its not a good idea to start yelling or accuse Filipinos of cheating you because they will kill you if they get offended. I've seen it happen. Just walk away smiling if you can. Your in the Philippines which means you have to deal with your problems the Filipino way.

Just remember, everyone gets ripped off in the Philippines at some point. You try to keep it to a minimum but you know its going to happen. The bitch at Philippine airlines tried to charge me $200 to change my flight when it only cost $.25. A few months later that Philippines airline office closed down for some strange reason.
Ah, so more truth emerges. Perhaps this played a role in you moving out of the Phils? And you are spot on when you say, "everyone gets ripped off in the Philippines at some point." Bingo - that's all we need to know. Scamming and thieving are not only things to be cautious of anywhere - they are particularly egregious in the Phils. I lived in China for a year. No one even tried to rip me off, anywhere. No one tried to rip me off in Singapore or Malaysia. Hell, even in Thailand, taxi drivers would use the meter no problem.

Scamming and robbery is not a "glitch" in the Philippines - IT IS A FEATURE!

Again, I'm waiting for anyone to give me any reasonable argument for why I should not pump n' dump in the Phils and go to a civilized place (like China) for a serious relationship. Come on, people, time to put up or shut up. What does the Philippines have that there is not better quality of in another country?

I'm starting to think guys who go to the PI for relationships/marriages are just too lazy. We all know the women are the easiest because they are sluts at heart...
The biggest problem I had in PI is the hot weather. Being cheated is not a huge problem if you know how to avoid it. My wallet fell out of shorts while I was on a jeepney one day and the Filipina next to me told me, which was very honest of her.

Incidentally, the Chinese did rip you off you just didn't know it. They increase the rent and utilities by 3 times for foreigners. One of the many unadvertised "specials" they offer.
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Taco wrote:Your getting scammed, their lying to you. The cost to get the flight changed is only 10 pesos. Air Canada only charges $50 to change a flight. You can get a return flight from Cebu to HK for less than $200. $200 is a months salary for the sales people at Philippine airlines.
The bitch at Philippine airlines told me Air Canada charges $200 to change my flight. I knew she was lying because Air Canada only charges $50 because I had it done before in China. I went to get the money to change my
flight and when I came back a different cashier helped me and only charged me 10 pesos! I was really mad but they had armed security guards at the office so I just walked away without saying anything.
Great tips
1)Too much of one thing defeats the purpose.
2)Everybody is full of it. What's your hypocrisy?
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Post by Banano »

Once filipina starts going foreign she ain't going back to date some poor filipino who cant afford to buy her a dinner


You do realize that when 50 yo fat white man goes for 20 yo filipina that he basically screwed over some young local filipino guy who couldnt compete with foreigners money?

By the way there is no more females than males in Philippines; ratio is 1.05 male(s)/female at birth
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