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The philippines made me become MGTOW *sigh*

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Re: The philippines made me become MGTOW *sigh*

Postby MrBlueLight » November 23rd, 2014, 6:08 pm

chanta76 wrote:Mr.Bluelight,

I think newlifephilippines is correct. Regardless if your Asian or white if you act like player in Asia and let say break a girls heart. She will remember and avoid those guys or hold bitterness. Since your a foreigner anyway....it makes it harder for the next guy looking for something legit.

I'm Asian myself..so I can relate with the discrimination that Asian men deal with in the dating market. I mean there probably is more reason for Asian guys to go overseas than white guys BUT saying that you say that you were an ex-model and tall. I met tall decent looking Asian guys in the states...they had no trouble dating local American girls..but they did it by approaching white or whatever type of girls . So even in the states it's possible although I think for Asian guys we have to work harder.

drronnie ,

If what your saying is true about Thai women looking for the better deal or cheating on their husband...and Thai men being left out. I mean what's the situation in THailand ? There still guys out there going to Thailand looking for wives and legit girls but according to you Thai women are not that great.


I did modeling for an Asian country, not in America. I do not have the rugged masculine American look, rather, more of the Korean/Japanese bishonen look that people in Asia dig. So I do get dates in America, but it's nothing like the quality and quantity I get in Asia, that's for sure. The truth about American girls are that the majority of them want nothing to do with ethnic minority men. There is a study done on Okcupid that showed that the majority of white girls AND Asian American girls only want to date white guys. Of course there are still some girls who are willing, but the effort it takes to wade through all the "romantically racist" women is simply not worth it. Note I am talking about hook-ups and not long-term relationships. Finding someone to be in a long-term relationship in America is not hard, but getting consistent high quality hook-up in America as an Asian guy is extremely difficult without some kind of fame. The difference between America and Asia for Asian guys is that being in America is like playing the game with handicap on hard mode. In Asia, it's game on "normal" mode. For whites, some Asian countries would be "easy" mode.

I've heard that normal Korean and Japanese women tend to prefer their own men, but the same cannot be said for women in other Asian countries (although Hong Kong is also kind of like that too). In less nationalistic places such as China, Taiwan and the Philippines, most women I've talked to have at least some attraction curiosity towardwhite men, but they don't date them because of fear of language barrier and lack or opportunity to meet one.

As far as age gap is concerned, unless the woman is a gold-digger, most women in North-east Asia strongly prefer to date men close to their age. 10 years is too big of an age-gap in those places. But women in Southeast Asia are more lenient when it comes to age, and 10 years is nothing.
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Re: The philippines made me become MGTOW *sigh*

Postby newlifeinphilippines » November 24th, 2014, 5:48 am

Now im going full blown MGTOW cause of religious reasons. I need to get away from lust and fornication as much as I possibly can.
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Re: The philippines made me become MGTOW *sigh*

Postby Zambales » July 4th, 2017, 8:53 am

I can't understand how any western guy can become MGTOW in the Philippines :shock: . You people must be looking in the wrong places. Either that or you've got monger scrawled across your foreheads.
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Re: The philippines made me become MGTOW *sigh*

Postby Man With a Plan » July 6th, 2017, 8:37 pm

Zambales wrote:I can't understand how any western guy can become MGTOW in the Philippines :shock: . You people must be looking in the wrong places. Either that or you've got monger scrawled across your foreheads.

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Re: The philippines made me become MGTOW *sigh*

Postby Contrarian Expatriate » July 6th, 2017, 9:39 pm

Zambales wrote:I can't understand how any western guy can become MGTOW in the Philippines :shock: . You people must be looking in the wrong places. Either that or you've got monger scrawled across your foreheads.

I think you still have a misunderstanding of MGTOW. It is simply men following their own path without regard to society's dictates. Some MGTOW include women in their lives, some do not.

There is a type of MGTOW called a "MGTOW Monk" who have sworn off women by choice. Some of these "monks" opine that a true MGTOW eschew women completely. Such is false and part of a "No true Scotsman" argument that they make.

A lot of people confused the True Forced Loneliness folks with MGTOW. They are vastly different although there has been some TFL migration into very small MGTOW Monk ranks.
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Re: The philippines made me become MGTOW *sigh*

Postby Zambales » July 6th, 2017, 10:21 pm

Contrarian Expatriate wrote:
Zambales wrote:I can't understand how any western guy can become MGTOW in the Philippines :shock: . You people must be looking in the wrong places. Either that or you've got monger scrawled across your foreheads.

I think you still have a misunderstanding of MGTOW. It is simply men following their own path without regard to society's dictates. Some MGTOW include women in their lives, some do not.



I've never heard anyone on here describe it in that manner.

Absolutely nothing wrong with not allowing oneself to be dictated by society though as I'm like that too, but I don't feel the need to be part of something like MGTOW. It has too many confusing tentacles which makes it pointless in my opinion.
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Re: The philippines made me become MGTOW *sigh*

Postby Contrarian Expatriate » July 7th, 2017, 11:24 am

Zambales wrote:
Contrarian Expatriate wrote:
Zambales wrote:I can't understand how any western guy can become MGTOW in the Philippines :shock: . You people must be looking in the wrong places. Either that or you've got monger scrawled across your foreheads.

I think you still have a misunderstanding of MGTOW. It is simply men following their own path without regard to society's dictates. Some MGTOW include women in their lives, some do not.



I've never heard anyone on here describe it in that manner.

Absolutely nothing wrong with not allowing oneself to be dictated by society though as I'm like that too, but I don't feel the need to be part of something like MGTOW. It has too many confusing tentacles which makes it pointless in my opinion.


MGTOW is not a club nor an organization to "join", it is simply a mindset and a lifestyle. It manifests itself differently in each individual man and the only common denominator is not permitting women to exert undue power and control over you. How do women do that, by using state organs of power and social pressure when you marry them or sire children with them or cohabitate with them.

Keeping women at some distance from you is a protective measure. Just how far you must keep them away depends on the society in question, but marriage tends to be the universally agreed upon no go zone.

MGTOW Philosopher just put out a MGTOW 101 video today which is the best rundown of MGTOW I have seen to date. He also addresses the "that's not really MGTOW" types of men too.
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Re: The philippines made me become MGTOW *sigh*

Postby Zambales » July 7th, 2017, 8:48 pm

Contrarian Expatriate wrote:
MGTOW is not a club nor an organization to "join", it is simply a mindset and a lifestyle. It manifests itself differently in each individual man and the only common denominator is not permitting women to exert undue power and control over you. How do women do that, by using state organs of power and social pressure when you marry them or sire children with them or cohabitate with them.

Keeping women at some distance from you is a protective measure. Just how far you must keep them away depends on the society in question, but marriage tends to be the universally agreed upon no go zone.



Not every woman is the same though. Just like not every man is the same.

I was only speaking to a contact of mine just yesterday. His missus allows him his freedom. He can go anywhere in the world he wants at anytime and both are perfectly happy with that arrangement. OK, he's got to be a good boy, but how many women would allow their men to have that kind of liberty? Not many, but they do exist.

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Re: The philippines made me become MGTOW *sigh*

Postby Contrarian Expatriate » July 8th, 2017, 6:10 am

Zambales wrote:
Contrarian Expatriate wrote:
MGTOW is not a club nor an organization to "join", it is simply a mindset and a lifestyle. It manifests itself differently in each individual man and the only common denominator is not permitting women to exert undue power and control over you. How do women do that, by using state organs of power and social pressure when you marry them or sire children with them or cohabitate with them.

Keeping women at some distance from you is a protective measure. Just how far you must keep them away depends on the society in question, but marriage tends to be the universally agreed upon no go zone.


Not every woman is the same though. Just like not every man is the same.

Again, you are too focused on the women instead of the systems which grant women the power to exert the control. So it does not matter if not all women are the same.

What does matter is that all women have some measure of coercive means to extract from you, control you, sire condemnation from others against you, and bring down state power upon you!
The degree to which they have this power depends on the society in question.
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Re: The philippines made me become MGTOW *sigh*

Postby E Irizarry R&B Singer » July 8th, 2017, 4:43 pm

MrBlueLight wrote:
chanta76 wrote:Mr.Bluelight,

I think newlifephilippines is correct. Regardless if your Asian or white if you act like player in Asia and let say break a girls heart. She will remember and avoid those guys or hold bitterness. Since your a foreigner anyway....it makes it harder for the next guy looking for something legit.

I'm Asian myself..so I can relate with the discrimination that Asian men deal with in the dating market. I mean there probably is more reason for Asian guys to go overseas than white guys BUT saying that you say that you were an ex-model and tall. I met tall decent looking Asian guys in the states...they had no trouble dating local American girls..but they did it by approaching white or whatever type of girls . So even in the states it's possible although I think for Asian guys we have to work harder.

drronnie ,

If what your saying is true about Thai women looking for the better deal or cheating on their husband...and Thai men being left out. I mean what's the situation in THailand ? There still guys out there going to Thailand looking for wives and legit girls but according to you Thai women are not that great.


I did modeling for an Asian country, not in America. I do not have the rugged masculine American look, rather, more of the Korean/Japanese bishonen look that people in Asia dig. So I do get dates in America, but it's nothing like the quality and quantity I get in Asia, that's for sure. The truth about American girls are that the majority of them want nothing to do with ethnic minority men. There is a study done on Okcupid that showed that the majority of white girls AND Asian American girls only want to date white guys. Of course there are still some girls who are willing, but the effort it takes to wade through all the "romantically racist" women is simply not worth it. Note I am talking about hook-ups and not long-term relationships. Finding someone to be in a long-term relationship in America is not hard, but getting consistent high quality hook-up in America as an Asian guy is extremely difficult without some kind of fame. The difference between America and Asia for Asian guys is that being in America is like playing the game with handicap on hard mode. In Asia, it's game on "normal" mode. For whites, some Asian countries would be "easy" mode.

I've heard that normal Korean and Japanese women tend to prefer their own men, but the same cannot be said for women in other Asian countries (although Hong Kong is also kind of like that too). In less nationalistic places such as China, Taiwan and the Philippines, most women I've talked to have at least some attraction curiosity towardwhite men, but they don't date them because of fear of language barrier and lack or opportunity to meet one.

As far as age gap is concerned, unless the woman is a gold-digger, most women in North-east Asia strongly prefer to date men close to their age. 10 years is too big of an age-gap in those places. But women in Southeast Asia are more lenient when it comes to age, and 10 years is nothing.

You should date in the SF Bay Area....especially if you're into I.T. that you can pull some Viet or Korean girls in the SF Peninsula.
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Re: The philippines made me become MGTOW *sigh*

Postby Falcon » July 23rd, 2017, 6:23 pm

E Irizarry R&B Singer wrote:You should date in the SF Bay Area....especially if you're into I.T. that you can pull some Viet or Korean girls in the SF Peninsula.


Please tell that to all of our Californian forum members.

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