MarcosZeitola wrote: ↑August 4th, 2023, 2:34 pm
But you know that a pageant winner who is tall and well-built with a good face, like her, is definitely a top-tier girl in most settings in the Philippines, right? As in, this is a girl with a TON of options. Maybe she thought she could swindle you and squeeze money out of you without much effort and time and when she discovered this wasn't the case, bailed.
First of all, as you probably already know, there are thousands of beauty pageants all over the Philippines every year. Hell, almost every barangay has one. Every girl whose skin is fairer than average, looks a bit more mestiza than the average and is (or her family is) into this kind of thing, can join and win.
Having said that, this particular pageant is a good couple of notches above the standard you could find in AC bargirl. The way Winston described it to me on the WhatsApp private group, she was happy to hang out with Winston, on brief dinner and shopping "dates", but never with too much intimacy. Winston obviously brought up the sex argument and she simply replied that she wasn't feeling ready, she wanted commitment, Then Winston switched to promises of commitment, and she went another level of reluctant...I don't know...I lost my feelings.
I think every girl who is not completely desperate and/or knows her worth, will always try to maximise her own profit while, at the same time, minimising the inconvenient, hard part. In other words, for this particular girl the agenda seemed to be "how much dinners and gifts can I get out of this guy without ever even kissing him?. I agree with Winston on this, this is no prostitution and not even sugard daddying. We can say a lot of things about Winston, but not that he doesn't act as an absolute gentleman with the ladies. He would never even imagine to hurt a girl. The same "extract and pretend" game with the wrong man could turn out to be dangerous.
MarcosZeitola wrote: ↑August 4th, 2023, 2:34 pm
I mean guys like you don't usually get girls like that unless they're absolutely loaded and generous with their money. And if a Filipina, a smart and pretty Filipina, sees a middle aged Chinese gentleman like yourself, the first thing that goes through her mind is: "Wow this guy must be rich. Probably richer than white expats". Because you kind of do give of this aura of wealth in your photos, somehow. Like you look out of place in seedy little bars and shady establishments, gallavanting with whores. You look more like a Taiwanese businessman on vacation who is about to hit the golf club for a few games but can't be arsed to dress fancy because he's on vacation and he's letting it all out. That's your vibe. It isn't "broke, unfortunate truthseeker", it's "wealthy middle-aged Asian male".
If a poor Filipina is hunting for a husband, and I'm sure @publicduende would attest to this, she'll sort of "scout" for one. And she'll look at what he can offer her, potentially. How easily impressed he is. How generous he is. Or whether or not he is tight-fisted, perhaps, in which case she'll bail with a quickness. You have been sized up, weighed and found lacking, somehow. And you're not even aware of it. I'm not discounting your previous life experiences but at this point in your life, lets be honest, it's almost certainly theory number two, and deep inside you know that.
That's another thing you nailed,
@MarcosZeitola. Glad it's so noticeable it appear obvious. To convince one of these girls to go with you, even commit to you, you have to put your goods on the table. Nightlife places, from London to Vegas, Pattaya to Makati, abound with fake wealthy men who would scratch the bottom of their last credit card (the 35% APR one LOL) just to buy one more champagne bottle and make that crazy night just a tad longer, and crazier, and impress the girls even more.
The irony is that, from what I can understand, Winston comes from an affluent family and he has unlimited access to his family money. He could show off 10, 100 times more than any of those pathetic Americans or Koreans in AC, yet he chooses not to. He is naturally frugal and money conscious, and I believe that's a positive right there. One might think that he treats girls to cheap meals and gifts because he knows they are not worth much, until they realise that he also treats himself that way.
Judging from his photos, I have never seen him staying in a hotel room worth more than 2-stars, maybe low-3. I have seen him in front of decent, heartily meals, but never in a place where you know even the entree will set you for P500.
His being frugal is definitely a positive. However, those girls have a different mentality: they are looking for a splurging mature man who will continue to splurge on them once they are committed. Better still, a mature man who will send them $500 USD a month every month, but only visit once or twice a year. So they get the best of both world: the continuous streams of cash and the freedom not to have sex with a man who looks like their dad (or granpa), and maybe look for another gullible Kano on the side.
I/we am not saying this to rain on Winston's parade. These are pure and simple facts. It's what happens when you are looking for girls who, in their lives, saw nothing but pain and poverty. If they think they can have a shot, they will absolutely obsess themselves with the search for a way out.
At that point, even a sleazy psycho like PAG might look like a way out.