W: As the only exception that SHE'S MET. Get that straight. Your lack of basic understanding of English is appalling.Chemist wrote:
And if there are "two exceptions" doesn't that imply that she knows TWO Russian women as exceptions, as the sentence says?
"Exception" is the key word here. She portrayed these two girls as the only exception.
W: She did not try to base it on only one. She never said that. YOU said that. Her words implied that she's met more than one Russian women that was greedy and manipulative. It was clear and obvious. No one misunderstood except you.If she knows two exceptions, then how can her conclusions be based on ONE? You aren't making any sense.
Your right. She can't base her conclusions on only one. But she tried to, and you bought into it.
W: Dude, it wasn't meant as "proof". It was just an example, one of many, that echo her same opinion and experience. What about all the guys I know who say the same thing?Let talk facts here:
1. You got sloppy with your logic and thought that an anonymous letter from an embittered divorcee actually PROVED anything about your opinions of Russian women.
2. I actually called BS on it and explained why. At some point, Basque had admitted some fallibility about what she wrote since she was angry (an understandable response but not "intellectual" like you claimed.)
3. Now, you are going to split hairs with words and try and tell me that it's really what I've been trying to say to you all along.
Sorry but your jedi mind tricks won't work on me.
But thanks for playing.
Basque did not admit fallibility. You were the one who misunderstood her and put words in her mouth. I didn't have a problem understanding what she was saying. You did.
By my standards, she is intellectual, at least she is compared to those cheerleaders in America with valley girl voices.
W: Yes she did. She said humbly that all the ones except two that she's met were like that. But she allowed for the possibility that there were more good Russian women out there.Again, WHERE does she say "all my conclusions about Russian women are based on one Russian woman"? She NEVER says that. So why do you see that Chemist? Seriously, maybe you need help cause you're clearly hallucinating.
Winston, my poor, ignorant sole:
She actually says that all russian women that she has met are bad with the exception of two.
It's fairly obvious to anybody that she views these two as an exception to the rule and not the rule itself.
She didn't even allow for the possibility that some Russians are good and some are bad.
W: Nothing you claim has been proven.Face it Winston. You know you shouldn't have posted this letter by now and you're trying to save face.
W: And where is your proof that she said that? Why do you claim to know people from afar without ever meeting them? Are you psychic? LOL Of course she didn't want three people living in a small room. I didn't want that either. But she never forbid Dianne. You have no proof for that claim.Just like you hallucinated that Dianne's aunt forbid Dianne from staying with me, and even said you proved it when you didn't. You cited a sentence that never even said that.
Dianne's aunt didn't want Dianne living in your squalor Wu. Unless you got a nicer place. You even agreed to do so.
The fact that Dianne still visited you doesn't mean that the aunt didn't forbid it!
By the way, the aunt is still here and I am allowed at the house now. We don't talk much, but she isn't angry at me anymore. She's quieted down after her brother's funeral.
W: Yes I am boastful. But did you think that maybe I have already been talking about getting a lot of sex here, so I didn't need to repeat it and mention it again?!
This isn't consistent with what we know about your nature.
Your boastful Winston. You'll take advantage to tell anybody about the girls that you have sex with. Why should it be any different now?
No, you only see what you WANT to say, not what I say.
Again, you should be ASKING, not TELLING!
W: That's YOUR interpretation, not what I said! You are crazy if you think you are the authority on interpretation.I NEVER said I couldn't get sex from normal girls. EVER! Again, you are hallucinating and need help. Admit it. You cannot and did not produce words where I said that. You are only seeing what you want to see.
Stop being so literal! It's what you didn't say that's important.
BTW, the reason I am charming is because I CAN get girls into bed with me with my personality, sweet talks, and looks (here I am considered physically attractive cause I have light skin and look clean cut). Plus I have a scorpio rising sign, which means I am very persuasive and have a hypnotic gaze that influences people to do what I want.
I can even go into a store with a no return policy and get a refund, in the US at least.
W: I did say that I had a birth certificate and I signed it, you dumba**! Maybe not to you, but to others I did. That's not logic. That's Chemist jumping to conclusions.Let's take another example about you:
The last I heard, you're trying to prove to the US embassy that your Angelo's father. You even assembled a photo-collage and asked me and others to comment on it.
Based on this evidence, I can conclude that you do not have Angelo's birth certificate with your name as the father.
But how can I make such a conclusion? You didn't say one way or the other, right?
How much do you want to bet? Want me to scan the birth certificate and show you? What will you wager and pay?
W: I told you before, the Taiwanese embassy said that a DNA test would be required even with a birth certificate. Thus, I wasn't sure if the US Embassy would have the same policy. I'm new to all this. That's why I was trying to be safe. It's common sense.Because, if you had such a document, there would be no need for making that collage or even asking us if it would convince anybody.
Do you get how this "logic thing" works now?
W: Why? I'm not insane and not dangerous to anyone. You are the wacko here. I am all about the truth and simply said the truth. You have a problem with truth?W: I did boast about it. You just refused to accept it. But it doesn't matter, cause whatever you believe, my sperm did physically go inside a lot of women here, both normal and bar girls. You can't erase that
See, it's statements like this that make people wonder if your better off in a padded cell.
No matter what I say, you twist it against me. You sound like a bitter American woman. lol
W: What hoes in the US cost $1000 an hour? LOL Maybe exec hoes, but normal ones cost $200 an hour, and in Las Vegas, they want $400 an hour. Trust me, I used to be a whoremonger, so I know these things. You can get all this price info on http://www.worldsexguide.com.Many men will boast about having lots of sex (even when they haven't actually done so). But when do you see men telling others about his sperm? Wacko!
If it really doesn't matter than don't try and convince me.
Even if your telling the truth, I'm not going to be all that impressed with you or anybody else who has sex with poor girls. Fish in a barrel would be the best metaphor in this case.
Whether they are impoverished or not is beside the point.
You'd like to think so wouldn't you?
A global trend that is quite clear, poorer countries have more prostitutes than more affluent countries.
Once a country starts developing to a point where wages go up, people make more money, and more opportunities present themselves (particularly for women), crime and prostitution decrease to a point where very few women engage in it and it is very expensive. We actually see this happening in Russia over the past 10-20 years.
In America a prostitute will run you about $1000/ hour, and there are only a few places where you can do it legally and most American women go onto other professions. In a country like Thailand and the Phillipines, $50 can get you a girl for the whole day or even longer. And more women are competing for that.
In the Philippines, $24 (1000 or 1200 pesos) can get you a girl for all night.
W: It doesn't matter. I got my needs fulfilled and that's what counts to me.It was all an economic decision for you Winston. That's all.
W: I have. In the Russia section, I posted two letters from guys with marriage problems to Russian women. And in the opportunistic Russian women treatise, I cite many people, including expats who have lived in Russia for 9 years.W: I merely cited her as evidence and an example. But I have many more letters from those disillusioned with Russian women, including from successful white guys too.
And yet, you're posting silly rant from people that have some sort of grudge.
I assumed that you would present your BEST evidence to prove your point. But I forgot that I'm talking to Winston Wu!
You simply refuse to look at it.
I know a big WWF type guy named Larry who has gone to Russia 20 or 30 times and said he never met a Russian who didn't cheat when he/she had the chance or opportunity.
W: In your dreams butthead. Lots of people have busy lives. Hoecus, I remember, was going to the hospital a lot too. I hope he's ok.W: You have never proven jtest to be wrong. And Hoecus has not had time to come back and answer your points about his claims about his wife at the airport. So the case remains open. You've proven nothing.
There's really not much more they can say, Winston. I know that you're really hoping that they come back vindicating themselves with some type of surprise testimony like the kind that made Perry Mason famous.
But it ain't gonna happen. They lost Winston. Game over.
W: How many of them did you read, from the reader responses page?You don't want to read the truth, that's why you avoid the other 400+ letters. They are a variety of letters from different people. You have no appreciation for variety.
The ones I've seen are pretty bad Winston. I'm not holding out hope for the others so don't bother.
W: She didn't conceded that to you. You are hallucinating again. Stop putting words in people's mouths.W: Yes I talked to them. They told me so. Some I talked to only online. A few I've met in person and have visited me in Angeles too. And I've talked to some on the phone. They are real.
Yes, I'm sure you took everything at face value without seriously questioning it. Just like Basque. Except I actually started questioning things and found out that she was really angry with mistresses and not Russian women specifically. The mistresses happened to be Russian because their men were Russian.
She said that most of the Russian women she's met were greedy and immoral. She never changed that position. That's all. You changed nothing about it.
W: What is so hard to believe about someone being a lawyer?This is how stereotypes get started, Winston. With ignorant people flinging letters around cyberspace and calling them "intellectual" for desparaging an entire group of people.
One lawyer even had his firm's name in his email too.
Well I'm convinced. I guess I can create a header and signature line that I'm Emperor of the world. I don't think it will happen though.
W: She said all the Russian women SHE MET! That's not extraordinary.Oh, and by the way, Winston. A clerk that works in the mailroom can call himself a lawyer. Sheesh!
W: Nothing is perfect, but most of those letters seem honest and probably are. There were no extraordinary claims in them.
I would consider "all russian women except two are bitches" an extaordinary claim, Winston. That's the problem. You can't read!
W: It's not cruel if it's a joke. Are you that easy to offend? So why didn't you comment on her "joke" that I ought to buy her a $100 camera just for the hell of it?W: Vika was not my date. And she took advantage of me. When I joked about going to an expensive Russian restaurant, she took it seriously and took me there so I could pay for it, even though I was just joking. She also said that it would be a "good thing" if I bought her a $100 camera just for fun as a good friend.
Joking about buying something for somebody and not doing it is cruel Winston. Not charming.
W: She tried, but they only liked tall white guys.Vika may not have been your date, but she had some pretty good insight about why you were screwing up in Russia. Many women wouldn't have the patience to explain such things to an adult man.
And has it ever occured to you that if you were nice to Vika and treated her with respect, than she may not have had any shame in introducing you to others?
W: In the Philippines I do.More failed opportunities *sigh*
Chemist, why don't you buy me a $100 camera just for fun? It would be a "good thing" right? lol
You miss the point as usual. You don't tease somebody with an gift and not do it. You were better off keeping your mouth shut.
W: I didn't feel in my heart like I wanted to buy her an ice cream. So I didn't. Intellectuals do not follow customs and traditions mindlessly, unless there is a good reason.
The customs and traditions are rooted in something, and it matters to those people. You observe the custom as a way of showing respect.
Your position on the matter is rude and arrogant. Not charming or intellectual.
Read my "new years lessons" post. I bring up this point there as well
W: If I wasn't a charmer and go-getter, I wouldn't have gotten all those hundreds of dates. And I wouldn't have slept with so many women here in the Philippines.
I can't believe that I'm giving dating advice to a grown man.
Winston, you get the date because you asked them out. It has very little to do with you. The woman knows your paying. She just needs to show up. What does she have to lose?
But did you get past two or three dates with them? No.
W: Why not? You have no proof that she was dishonest.It's a shame really. You believed that getting one date with a Russian bombshell was a success!
W: Sure, the blonde Marina in Yoshkar-Ola I met just before I left, said I was charming, good looking, and she liked me a lot.
And you believed her?
W: They don't, but there are always exceptions.And not to long ago you were suggesting that Asians wouldn't do well in Russia.
W: If I had stayed longer, it might have progressed, but I was on my way out.And it's not like things went anywhere with Marina either. There was an Olga that you met after you visited your fiancee Katya. You hit it off with her as well. And then you skipped town to go back to Katya.
W: Cause they weren't right for me or it wasn't meant to be.That's the thing Wu. When you had a chance with some of the girls, you boarded a train and left.
W: People have done worse. I know an Asian guy who went there and never had sex, he only talked about history and Tolstoy with the Russian women.W: Yes I do admit that I might have done better in the East, in the Siberian region for example. But that is in theory, and hasn't been put to the test.
Well it's not like anybody could have done worse than you, so it wouldn't hurt for somebody to try.
And did you read the story of Shane Neff? Others have suffered and lost a lot more than I did, to Russian women.
I have an friend who works as a security convoy in Iraq, who has lost a lot to his Ukrainian wife. He can spend hours telling you about it.