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Something to consider for those under 30 and don't have much anchoring them to whatever western country they live in; you have to know how to speak some Russian though. However, with the internet and other sources if you really wanted to learn bad enough you could have an intermediate understanding of the language within 6-12 months. Also, since you don't actually take an oath to Russia, it doesn't interfere with your current citizenship. After 3 years you are eligible for Russian citizenship. IF you are the adventurous type and can handle old school style military boot camp, probably similar to Full Metal jacket style then join the Russian army to get the hell out of America or wherever and pursue a new life! If I were in my 20's stuck in America doing nothing I would consider it over joining the American military with its political correct rules of engagement and other bull shit...
http://rt.com/politics/russian-army-wel ... oreigners/
Russian army now hiring - foreigners welcome
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Published: 26 November, 2010, 16:28
Edited: 27 November, 2010, 00:47
RIA Novosti / Vitaly Ankov
TAGS: Military, Russia, Politics, Central Asia, Prime Time Russia, Modernization, Lindsay France, Robert Bridge
The Russian Army is looking for a few good men (and women), but only if you speak Russian and donâ€™t mind having your fingerprints taken. And of course, donâ€™t mind a bit of adventure.
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Due to various factors, not least of all Russiaâ€™s demographic situation, the Russian Armed Forces are looking to foreigners to help fill their ranks.
"Foreign nationals, between the ages of 18 and 30, applying to serve in the Russian Armed Forces, must speak Russian language," says a draft decree on the new rules for Army service, posted on the Russian Defense Ministry's website.
All qualified applicants will also be required to have their fingerprints on file with the Ministry of Defense.
Unlike Russian citizens, however, who join the military as soldiers, sailors, sergeants or first sergeants after signing a three-year contract, foreign nationals must agree to serve for no less than five years.
Foreign enlistees, however, will not be required to have Russian passports or produce a diploma or other certificate confirming their level of education.
As far as having to take a military oath, that requirement too has been eased for foreign nationals.
"They will not take the military oath and will only sign a contract pledging themselves to abide by the Russian Constitution and to unconditionally fulfill their commanders' orders," Interfax-AVN reported, quoting an anonymous Defense Ministry source.
Aside from having an opportunity to do a bit of travelling, as well getting into shape, service in the Russian military for foreigners comes with some other perks, including the right to become a full-fledged, passport-carrying Russian citizen.
"Foreign nationals serving in the Russian Armed Forces will have the right to apply for Russian citizenship after three years of service," the source said.
The Russian Army first opened their ranks to foreign nationals in 2004, when the Defense Ministry decided to attract more contract servicemen due to a demographic crisis. The number of foreign contract servicemen, however, has not exceeded 350 since the program started.
In 2009, 340 foreign contract servicemen from former Soviet republics served in the Russian Armed Forces. Among them were 103 national from Tajikistan, 69 from Uzbekistan and 42 from Ukraine, Deputy General Staff Chief Vasily Smirnov said.
The announcement follows Russia's military reform initiative, which were announced by Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov in October 2009.
Russia is looking to build a smaller yet more efficient army that is equipped with the most advanced technologies.
Meanwhile, Russian President Dmitry Medvedev hinted on Thursday that the Russia will start looking to foreign shores to build new military bases, while underlining the diplomatic decorum required for such a task.
â€œYou realize that a Russian Presidentâ€™s decree is not enough to establish a base in a foreign country,â€ he said.
â€œIt requires complicated political and diplomatic work for us to be wanted and regarded as an element of improving a foreign countryâ€™s image and security,â€ he said.
Russia presently has 25 military bases abroad: one located in Syria, and the rest in the former Soviet states of Ukraine, Kazakhstan, Armenia, Belarus, Azerbaijan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, and Moldova.
"The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." Marcus Aurelius, Roman Emperor and stoic philosopher, 121-180 A.D.
Well, most 'foreigners' that have been joining have been Ukrainians, and Uzbeks. Some foreigners!
Keep in mind that the Russian army has such horrible hazing that soldiers often commit suicide.
You may consider becoming a Russian national and joining the Cossacks. That would be an adventure.
Another interesting thing- Ukrainian Cossacks were notorious for Jewish pogroms. Few people know though that quite a few Cossack families and the founders of the Cossack hosts were Jews who had converted to Orthodoxy and then they turned on their own. When the Jews in that part of the world split into the rich and the poor, many poor ones had left the shtetl, and joined the hosts after the conversions.
But that is old history. It would be interesting to find out how one could join those wild and crazy horsemen. They are now good guys for the most part and are simply like the National Guardsmen.
A brain is a terrible thing to wash!
I think I'd rather join the French Foreign Legion (http://www.legion-recrute.com/en/) and get French/EU (27 nations) citizenship, thank you (but I'm too old now).
Ladislav's right: the Russian hazing is HORRIBLE and I met many Russian guys when I was in Russia, who were constantly hiding from the police/Army, since they were dodging their mandatory military service. If you value your life, don't join the Russian military. Besides, if it were so great, why do they have to recruit from outside? Maybe the Russian men know something about it? Maybe their population is dying out, due to drinking and abortions, and they're trying to avoid the inevitible? Sorry, but the Russians are too fatalistic. Imagine spending 3 years stuck in outer bum-fu*k Siberia in -50F temps with nothing to do but salute, march, smoke horrible cigs, drink vodka and contemplate suicide.
On the other hand, the FFL goes to South America, Africa, Pacific Islands, etc. and they have better wine and better food.
As a foreigner, I'd imagine their hatred of you would be intense. You'd receive worse treatment than the Russian soilders because you are one who doesnt belong there. I'd imagine most men there arent so accepting of multiculturalism regardless of what race you belong to.
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