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Sailboat Diaries: Why I'm Leaving America -Michael Fieldin

What's your story? Discussions your reasons for going abroad.

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Sailboat Diaries: Why I'm Leaving America -Michael Fieldin

Postby zboy1 » Thu Dec 27, 2012 5:58 am

Why I’m Leaving America ... g-america/

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Postby abcdavid01 » Thu Dec 27, 2012 9:09 am

I would have agreed with all of that right up until even a week ago. Funnily enough, it was Hayek who turned me from libertarianism - because I agreed with him! He believed that human instincts are naturally Socialist and must be suppressed by tradition and morality in order to have civilization. Yet his solution was to find an outlet for Socialist tendencies: families and local communities. Hayek also said a monarch who grants freedom is better than a repressive democracy. Rand is wrong because families are inherently Socialist institutions. Children are, in a way, slaves, and only an agorist would argue this is a bad thing. What is freedom? Savages are free; they have no morals and no order. They are driven merely by instinct. I still reject the hell out of Marx though, but he did have a point about alienation. Here's one of the writings that took my hand: ... cialism-3/

To guard against the excesses of capitalism, nondemocracy is a minimum requirement. Mass democracy led to mass consumerism, and for both the justification is essentially the same: bad leaders are simply “what the people asked forâ€￾; cheap, tasteless products are just “what people are willing to buyâ€￾. Edward Bernays developed modern marketing and public relations methods by building on the inculcation of this mentality. Universal suffrage and unlimited freedom of information, unlike hereditary hierarchy which has lasted ages, are actually outdated – tried and untrue. A few notable statesmen over the last several decades have figured this out – Lee Kuan Yew of Singapore, for example. His approach to government makes clear what any radical libertarian will tell you: that the relationship between a State and its subjects/citizens amounts to slavery writ large; unlike such libertarians, however, we reactionaries do not take this to be an indictment. If people require government, then it is reasonable to think that some of them require slavery.

Lee Kuan Yew is someone I now look up to.

I do certainly agree with the part about economic collapse however. Will it come as soon as a decade? I don't know. I do know that it is coming and want to leave not for myself, but for my future heir.
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Postby Jester » Thu Dec 27, 2012 10:12 am

abcdavid01 wrote:....Hayek also said a monarch who grants freedom is better than a repressive democracy. Rand is wrong because families are inherently Socialist institutions....

Lee Kuan Yew is someone I now look up to....

Good conclusions, and more important, great reasoning.
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