Filipina MYTHS

[steve55]

Well, newlife, you have the right to your opinion, but after 8 trips and a 3 month stay, I think Winston is spot on. Yes, you are right if you are saying that in general, poorer lower class girls are far easier to get and in general are more open to wanting to date foreign guys. But even so, it's still very feasible to find middle to middle upper class girls in the Phils. I've been able to get dates quite easily with nurses, teachers and other professionals in the Philippines who have enough money to not be desperate to leave he Philippines or want your money or green card. What we are saying is that it's a hell of a lot easier meeting attractive women with great values (oh, and note the 20% divorce rate when you marry a filipina too!) than it is back home in America (50-60% divorce rate) minus the stuck up entitlement attitudes. And before you start too much into about how the only reason they will like you is because of money or green card, wtf do you think American women want? Come on man, American women are much much much worse about only dating men who have money or a good job. Filipinas , whether lower or middle class will accept you as long as you work , are a good husband and arnt a lazy bum. Not so with American women who demand a $60k + income just to date a guy.

And about age, you are 100% wrong in my opinion. I have done extensive personal research and questioning of Filipino men and girls on this age difference issue over 10 years! And every time, I was told by Filipinos that Filipinas do generally prefer older men (10-15, or even 20 yrs older) and dont mind even larger age differences. Newlife, how do you explain that at filipina dating sites like cherry blossoms that half or more of the girls list a preferred age range of their match in which they list the minimum age of their man as at least 10 years older? If all they wanted was any man to take them away to the US and any man with enough money to support them , then why would they even bother listing any age range at all? Right? Just take a look at these examples of girls listing MINIMUM ages for their match. http://www.globaldatingsolution.com/a-c ... d-men.html

It befuddles me that assuming you live in he Philippines, that you have this opinion as you do. It's amazing how two people can experience the same thing yet come to two very different conclusions. The only part myself and Winston will agree with you on is how the middle high to high class girls in general are harder to find and are much less interested in foreigners but still, some will be.

Ive always enjoyed your posts but I think your wrong.

Absolute B.S most girls dont like old unless they are gold diggers and dont care about you. Even the nurse girl i met didn't and kept telling me that! My current girlfriend doesn't either nor do many other girls ive asked! and I know when im older that ill have to accept that it will be p4p cause no legit girl will want an old guy so i can accept that reality now even though im not old. Taco and Mr.s and some others have also confirmed that they want young and if the gap is large its p4p not love. Most girls online are hookers and lazy gold diggers not looking for love so of course they want old they want a guy who will fall in love and become cuntstruck and quickly take them out. They know young guys wont fall for their b.s and/or be too poor.

And yes middle class women will be interested BUT they are either unemployed at the moment or huge gold diggers and would marry the first monger off a dating site that asked to marry them without barely knowing them. Sound familiar steve?

Its interesting you have a dating website like winston. So your biased.

REF

Its interesting you have a dating website like winston. So your biased

I have a website but it ain't a dating site! Let's get that straight first, right?. I have banner ads primarily for aesthetics reasons, I'm not even on google ad sense and have yet to make single dollar! So, there is no $$$ bias my friend, I do what I do not for money but because I've personally seen that dating and marrying foreign women works! And if your theory is correct that all they want is money or green cards, then how do you explain the 20% divorce rate??? If a girl is only using a guy, let's face it, she won't stay with him after she gets her green card. She doesn't have to stay. These girls arnt dumb like they may have been in the pre internet days, they know their legal power in the US (Alimony, child support) and considering that according to the USCIS study, most guys who go this route are white collar and educated with high incomes, the girls could easily make it without their husbands and go their own way with such a high cut of their x husband's inomes, very easily. Even the pamphlets they are given at their pre immigration orientation tell them this. But despite all this, these girls do stay married to their men. That's a fact and stats prove it (see my site where I source several sources on this)

I operate off of stats and facts not on just personal opinions. Throw some valid stats and facts our way that back your assumptions and then we'll pay a bit more attention to some of your views. I've quoted the USCIS study that concluded that the women don't marry for primarily for economic or green card reasons but rather because they think western men make kinder and more ideal husbands, don't mistreat or abuse them and have more responsible attitudes towards wife and family. This is per a USCIS study as is the 20% divorce rate (which at the end of the day, the divorce rate stat speaks volumes) . It's quoted on my website. So my so called BS is at least backed by facts and stats, and expert opinion. What about your assumptions ? Any studies? Anything besides personal opinion? Just sayin ya know.

[droid]

To be fair, that list doesn't sound much different than the list to get girls in the US

hahah true, if one has to meet the same requirements and travel 10000 miles for some troll with bad hair, no waist, and an attitude, one might as well just stay here.
Everybody has a vast range of opinions; At the end of the day, the best thing is to actually visit and see for oneself.

[Maverick]

To be fair, that list doesn't sound much different than the list to get girls in the US

hahah true, if one has to meet the same requirements and travel 10000 miles for some troll with bad hair, no waist, and an attitude, one might as well just stay here.
Everybody has a vast range of opinions; At the end of the day, the best thing is to actually visit and see for oneself.

Yeah for sure man. I'll be touching down in Phil in 2 weeks!

But it's crazy that people have such a wide range of experiences here.

[newlifeinphilippines]

Keep in mind hammanta is very young and good looking and even he hasn't found the dream girl. You would think he would with his looks and his ability to go all over the country.

so if philippines is the wife or dating paradise why isn't hammanta found a dream girl? of course hell say various stuff like he is too young etc but i think thats just denial. Most women there are not wife material on some level, just like america.

And yes the list looks like the same as if oyu were in america, so why the hell are we flying there? LOL

[newlifeinphilippines]

To be fair, that list doesn't sound much different than the list to get girls in the US

hahah true, if one has to meet the same requirements and travel 10000 miles for some troll with bad hair, no waist, and an attitude, one might as well just stay here.
Everybody has a vast range of opinions; At the end of the day, the best thing is to actually visit and see for oneself.

Yeah for sure man. I'll be touching down in Phil in 2 weeks!

But it's crazy that people have such a wide range of experiences here.

Its like how you had different experience in america than others. The same in philippines.

For the record my current girl is about a 6.2 on the scale of looks(although sometimes i look at her and she looks dead average 5 it just depends) she is 22 but looks younger. My bargirl "girlfriend" i use that term loosely before was a 6.8. If she had light skin i would have put her at 7 (hot) and she had a rich american boyfriend before that whereas i was the poor guy. The nurse girl i met who liked me but was turned off by me having a girlfriend and not liking her and my negativity i guess was about a 7 and completed her education studies already. It would have been too difficult dealing with her im not the type of guy to go blow tons of money on vacations and eating out and promising marriage.

I haven't seen many foreigners with a very attractive woman (above 6.5) that wasn't a hoe. If looks dont matter your search will be easier. Alot easier LOL cause no one else wants them or is willing to fly here to court them. seriously man your gonna fly across the world and spend all this money in a shithole for a average looking chick (4.5 to 5.5) who is gonna get uglier with age? Thats ridiculous. Id rather stay home and jerk off. Which im planning to do actually LOL

[Rock]

Well, newlife, you have the right to your opinion, but after 8 trips and a 3 month stay, I think Winston is spot on. Yes, you are right if you are saying that in general, poorer lower class girls are far easier to get and in general are more open to wanting to date foreign guys. But even so, it's still very feasible to find middle to middle upper class girls in the Phils. I've been able to get dates quite easily with nurses, teachers and other professionals in the Philippines who have enough money to not be desperate to leave he Philippines or want your money or green card. What we are saying is that it's a hell of a lot easier meeting attractive women with great values (oh, and note the 20% divorce rate when you marry a filipina too!) than it is back home in America (50-60% divorce rate) minus the stuck up entitlement attitudes. And before you start too much into about how the only reason they will like you is because of money or green card, wtf do you think American women want? Come on man, American women are much much much worse about only dating men who have money or a good job. Filipinas , whether lower or middle class will accept you as long as you work , are a good husband and arnt a lazy bum. Not so with American women who demand a $60k + income just to date a guy.

And about age, you are 100% wrong in my opinion. I have done extensive personal research and questioning of Filipino men and girls on this age difference issue over 10 years! And every time, I was told by Filipinos that Filipinas do generally prefer older men (10-15, or even 20 yrs older) and dont mind even larger age differences. Newlife, how do you explain that at filipina dating sites like cherry blossoms that half or more of the girls list a preferred age range of their match in which they list the minimum age of their man as at least 10 years older? If all they wanted was any man to take them away to the US and any man with enough money to support them , then why would they even bother listing any age range at all? Right? Just take a look at these examples of girls listing MINIMUM ages for their match. http://www.globaldatingsolution.com/a-c ... d-men.html

It befuddles me that assuming you live in he Philippines, that you have this opinion as you do. It's amazing how two people can experience the same thing yet come to two very different conclusions. The only part myself and Winston will agree with you on is how the middle high to high class girls in general are harder to find and are much less interested in foreigners but still, some will be.

Ive always enjoyed your posts but I think your wrong.

Absolute B.S most girls dont like old unless they are gold diggers and dont care about you. Even the nurse girl i met didn't and kept telling me that! My current girlfriend doesn't either nor do many other girls ive asked! and I know when im older that ill have to accept that it will be p4p cause no legit girl will want an old guy so i can accept that reality now even though im not old. Taco and Mr.s and some others have also confirmed that they want young and if the gap is large its p4p not love. Most girls online are hookers and lazy gold diggers not looking for love so of course they want old they want a guy who will fall in love and become cuntstruck and quickly take them out. They know young guys wont fall for their b.s and/or be too poor.

And yes middle class women will be interested BUT they are either unemployed at the moment or huge gold diggers and would marry the first monger off a dating site that asked to marry them without barely knowing them. Sound familiar steve?

Its interesting you have a dating website like winston. So your biased.

I have a website but it ain't a fn dating site! Let's get that straight first. I have banner ads primarily for aesthetics reasons, I'm not even on google ad sense and have yet to make single dollar! There is no bias my friend, I do what I do not for money but because I've personally seen that dating and marrying foreign women works! And if your theory is correct that all they want is money or green cards, then how do you explain the 20% divorce rate??? Huh? If a girl is only using a guy, let's face it, she won't stay with him after she gets her green card. She doesn't have to stay. But these girls do stay married to their men. That's a fact jack and stats prove it. I operate off of stats and facts not on my personal opinions like you. Throw some valid stats and facts our way that back your assumptions and then we'll pay attention. I've quoted the USCIS study that concluded that the women don't marry for primarily for economic or green card reasons but rather because they think western men make kinder and more ideal husbands, don't mistreat or abuse them and have more responsible attitudes towards wife and family. This is per a USCIS study as is the 20% divorce rate (which at the end of the day, the divorce rate stat speaks volumes) . It's quoted on my website. So my so called BS is at least backed by facts and stats, and expert opinion. What about your assumptions ? Any studies? Anything besides personal opinion?

I've been here in Luzon for awhile now and have tried to figure this out too. I've met and dated many girls, including a lot who would count as middle or upper middle class. Some are from families with businesses which generate enough for them to own many houses and condos and nice cars, etc. Some are professionals who earn as much as 90,000 Pesos a month in very special roles. And some are from more modest means but still have no problems independently meeting their own needs and are from families who are also totally self supporting.

Guys, a lot really depends on the specific girl. Some are a lot more age conscious than others. But I will say that overall, even among the middle class, I consider Phils. to be one of the least age picky (girls towards guys) countries I've ever visited when money is not a factor. Once money gets into the equation, you can do very well, maybe even better, in a lot of other countries.

In general, non-money/material seeking girls with education, good morals, from a quality middle class family often seem to seek, or at least be open to considering, an older guy meaning a guy who could be her much older brother (not daddy, not granddaddy). So I think if you look 10-15 years older than her, it's all good.

I've noticed though with some of the very young girls (18-20), a subset are also attracted to much older guys (even well over 40 in some cases) without money or material considerations being an issue no matter what their class. I suppose some of these girls have daddy issues and are just not fully developed mentally yet. After all, the brain continues to change physiologically until about mid-20s. And some people in Phils are very simple to begin with.

Oftentimes, the late 20s early 30s gals who look good, are completely independent, with no children (or even with sometimes lol), are actually a lot more picky about age. They seem to know themselves and the world well and have more specific standards. Many from this set will demand under 40 or even under 35. But others in this set who look very good and are great catches will accept say up to 50 or even more. Like I said, it really depends so much on the specific girl.

Things which will really hinder you in dating non-material seeking young women - looking very old (like pushing elderly), dressing like a slob, being dirty, having a perverted appearance in some way (like your constantly on the prowl), hanging out in places like Robinsons Ermita, being seen around and about with suspect girls, or being very unattractive in some way (posture, grooming, weight, weird face, etc.). A lot of the more respectable types care a lot about what people think and how they are perceived by others. So you really need to be presentable and respectable. But you don't have to look like some stud, just reasonable and decent is usually fine.

Personality wise, I find it doesn't hurt so much just to be a nice and sincere guy. Speak politely, be respectful, act educated, etc. But don't be extreme in any way. If you can be funny and get people laughing, it goes a long way in taking down barriers between you and locals in a give situation so if you have that gift, use it. Girls here seem to genuinely like and appreciate being courted as opposed to just being asked out on dates. Of course, if you are dealing with the party set (which is significant up her in Mega Manila), casual dating can also work.

Even if you are very old, I think it's possible to find some nice and attractive very young girls for more modest or even poor backgrounds who still are not very materialistic. Again, it really depends on the girl (and her family). Between all the scammers and gold diggers, there are some very sweet, genuine, and nice Filipinos. You just have to learn how to find them and detect them. That's something a lot of westerners don't seem to have much sense about.

[newlifeinphilippines]

rock why haven't you found the woman of your dreams yet since you live there in makati which is supposed to be the cream of the crop?

[newlifeinphilippines]

Well, newlife, you have the right to your opinion, but after 8 trips and a 3 month stay, I think Winston is spot on. Yes, you are right if you are saying that in general, poorer lower class girls are far easier to get and in general are more open to wanting to date foreign guys. But even so, it's still very feasible to find middle to middle upper class girls in the Phils. I've been able to get dates quite easily with nurses, teachers and other professionals in the Philippines who have enough money to not be desperate to leave he Philippines or want your money or green card. What we are saying is that it's a hell of a lot easier meeting attractive women with great values (oh, and note the 20% divorce rate when you marry a filipina too!) than it is back home in America (50-60% divorce rate) minus the stuck up entitlement attitudes. And before you start too much into about how the only reason they will like you is because of money or green card, wtf do you think American women want? Come on man, American women are much much much worse about only dating men who have money or a good job. Filipinas , whether lower or middle class will accept you as long as you work , are a good husband and arnt a lazy bum. Not so with American women who demand a $60k + income just to date a guy.

And about age, you are 100% wrong in my opinion. I have done extensive personal research and questioning of Filipino men and girls on this age difference issue over 10 years! And every time, I was told by Filipinos that Filipinas do generally prefer older men (10-15, or even 20 yrs older) and dont mind even larger age differences. Newlife, how do you explain that at filipina dating sites like cherry blossoms that half or more of the girls list a preferred age range of their match in which they list the minimum age of their man as at least 10 years older? If all they wanted was any man to take them away to the US and any man with enough money to support them , then why would they even bother listing any age range at all? Right? Just take a look at these examples of girls listing MINIMUM ages for their match. http://www.globaldatingsolution.com/a-c ... d-men.html

It befuddles me that assuming you live in he Philippines, that you have this opinion as you do. It's amazing how two people can experience the same thing yet come to two very different conclusions. The only part myself and Winston will agree with you on is how the middle high to high class girls in general are harder to find and are much less interested in foreigners but still, some will be.

Ive always enjoyed your posts but I think your wrong.

Absolute B.S most girls dont like old unless they are gold diggers and dont care about you. Even the nurse girl i met didn't and kept telling me that! My current girlfriend doesn't either nor do many other girls ive asked! and I know when im older that ill have to accept that it will be p4p cause no legit girl will want an old guy so i can accept that reality now even though im not old. Taco and Mr.s and some others have also confirmed that they want young and if the gap is large its p4p not love. Most girls online are hookers and lazy gold diggers not looking for love so of course they want old they want a guy who will fall in love and become cuntstruck and quickly take them out. They know young guys wont fall for their b.s and/or be too poor.

And yes middle class women will be interested BUT they are either unemployed at the moment or huge gold diggers and would marry the first monger off a dating site that asked to marry them without barely knowing them. Sound familiar steve?

Its interesting you have a dating website like winston. So your biased.

REF

Its interesting you have a dating website like winston. So your biased

I have a website but it ain't a dating site! Let's get that straight first, right?. I have banner ads primarily for aesthetics reasons, I'm not even on google ad sense and have yet to make single dollar! So, there is no $$$ bias my friend, I do what I do not for money but because I've personally seen that dating and marrying foreign women works! And if your theory is correct that all they want is money or green cards, then how do you explain the 20% divorce rate??? If a girl is only using a guy, let's face it, she won't stay with him after she gets her green card. She doesn't have to stay. These girls arnt dumb like they may have been in the pre internet days, they know their legal power in the US (Alimony, child support) and considering that according to the USCIS study, most guys who go this route are white collar and educated with high incomes, the girls could easily make it without their husbands and go their own way with such a high cut of their x husband's inomes, very easily. Even the pamphlets they are given at their pre immigration orientation tell them this. But despite all this, these girls do stay married to their men. That's a fact and stats prove it (see my site where I source several sources on this)

I operate off of stats and facts not on just personal opinions. Throw some valid stats and facts our way that back your assumptions and then we'll pay a bit more attention to some of your views. I've quoted the USCIS study that concluded that the women don't marry for primarily for economic or green card reasons but rather because they think western men make kinder and more ideal husbands, don't mistreat or abuse them and have more responsible attitudes towards wife and family. This is per a USCIS study as is the 20% divorce rate (which at the end of the day, the divorce rate stat speaks volumes) . It's quoted on my website. So my so called BS is at least backed by facts and stats, and expert opinion. What about your assumptions ? Any studies? Anything besides personal opinion? Just sayin ya know.

Yes some girls like older but not a huge age gap. The more golddiggers/leechish the more age difference they are open to. You wont see many middle class girls that want beyond a 10 or so year age gap probably for example.

Also that 20 percent stat im not sure is even true. It was done a long ass time ago and im not even sure if it was a proper study or even who it was based on etc. Ive heard many military sources state the opposite, like MOST FAILED. most guys in the military that know guys that married filipinas they all wound up in disaster. anyways maybe you can give better info on that study.

[Rock]

rock why haven't you found the woman of your dreams yet since you live there in makati which is supposed to be the cream of the crop?

Well the opportunity cost is very high. Once you settle with one, you have to give up all the others lol. I've enjoyed dating and close friendships with many. I just don't fall in love easily. But just give me a bit more time and we'll see lol.

Also, I wanna add a plug for Mega Manila. There are some guys here who seem to not like Luzon girls for whatever reasons. Well you must remember, Manila area attracts a lot of girls from all over the Philippines just like top cities/capitals tend to do in general (attracting people from all over their respective countries). So just because you meet a girl up here does not mean she's necessarily a Metro Manila girl or even a Luzon girl.

[newlifeinphilippines]

rock why haven't you found the woman of your dreams yet since you live there in makati which is supposed to be the cream of the crop?

Well the opportunity cost is very high. Once you settle with one, you have to give up all the others lol. I've enjoyed dating and close friendships with many. I just don't fall in love easily. But just give me a bit more time and we'll see lol.

Also, I wanna add a plug for Mega Manila. There are some guys here who seem to not like Luzon girls for whatever reasons. Well you must remember, Manila area attracts a lot of girls from all over the Philippines just like top cities/capitals tend to do in general (attracting people from all over their respective countries). So just because you meet a girl up here does not mean she's necessarily a Metro Manila girl or even a Luzon girl.

if you had to pin it do you not fall in love because most of the girls are not good wives ultimately for whatever reason you think or cause you have so many options?

Also do you think most of the women going for foreigners have some serious issues even IF they are educated or have money? It seems like the ones tha thave money or education have some other bad issue if they want us (bad family and emotional issues, or are major sluts, or just want a quick visa out of the country and are very materialistic)

[Rock]

rock why haven't you found the woman of your dreams yet since you live there in makati which is supposed to be the cream of the crop?

Well the opportunity cost is very high. Once you settle with one, you have to give up all the others lol. I've enjoyed dating and close friendships with many. I just don't fall in love easily. But just give me a bit more time and we'll see lol.

Also, I wanna add a plug for Mega Manila. There are some guys here who seem to not like Luzon girls for whatever reasons. Well you must remember, Manila area attracts a lot of girls from all over the Philippines just like top cities/capitals tend to do in general (attracting people from all over their respective countries). So just because you meet a girl up here does not mean she's necessarily a Metro Manila girl or even a Luzon girl.

if you had to pin it do you not fall in love because most of the girls are not good wives ultimately for whatever reason you think or cause you have so many options?

Also do you think most of the women going for foreigners have some serious issues even IF they are educated or have money? It seems like the ones tha thave money or education have some other bad issue if they want us (bad family and emotional issues, or are major sluts, or just want a quick visa out of the country and are very materialistic)

I've met some gals who I think would make outstanding wives. Same goes for when I was living in Taipei. But when you know several gals, you can enjoy the relatives strengths of each. For example, one might be extremely engaging and match you really well in conversation (like you two can just have a blast hanging out and chatting), another may blow you away physically in some way, another might be great for bouncing business ideas off, another might be a great hiking or running partner, etc. If you want everything, it's very hard to find in just one individual. Also, over time, you may get bored with just one person and crave some variety. These are arguments for guys like Lad who chose to live polyamorously.

But when you do fall in love, you basically take the strengths and weaknesses in a package deal and are willing to pay the price (opportunity cost) of being monogamous because that love has such a big value to you.

Most of the women I have known or dated do not restrict themselves to dating foreigners. They go for type, not race or nationality. But in many of their cases, their past boyfriends or courtiers have been kinda exceptional - Filipinos who've lived abroad and speak great English, mixed guys, guys who are quite tall and/or intellectual, athletes, etc. Such types are relatively rare in Philippines and I've heard it said several times by various girls that a lot of the most interesting Filipinos (best looking, smartest, most creative, etc.) tend to often be gay lol.

I do know a couple girls who are from great families who explicitly don't wanna date pure Filipinos. One of them is mixed race, fluent in several languages, and kinda lives in a bubble world, similar in ways to how many expats are removed from broader society. She's fluent in Tagalog yet doesn't feel comfortable in it. So she tends to always speak English at work and even out and about only using Tagalog when the counterpart has very poor English.

There is a significant group of 'exotic' girls who just love to to hang out with westerners. I think they realize that with their appearance and style, they have a much better chance with a lot of the foreign guys who don't mind their look (often some combo with at least some of these traits - dark skin, rough face or features, shorter stature, very slim body, and an obvious poorer look). Western guys, especially newer ones, are a lot less judgmental towards these types compared to local guys who tend to look down on them. The problem is, many of these types are more desperate in general or come from problem families. So in medium to long term, said foreigners encounter a lot of issues with these girls.

I've tended to avoid this last group. I'm naturally attracted to taller and often fairer skinned gals, even the plainer ones instead of these exotic ones. And I'm not much into drinking and wild nightlife. Just by cutting out this niche of girls, I think you improve your odds a lot already.

[djfourmoney]

I think Silver Energy said something about being a sad sack and not getting a woman from PI.

While I've seen odd couples before, I saw one pennant to this thread today while waiting for my turn to donate Plasma.

An average looking PI girl was with a clearly obese White man who was in his early to mid 20's.

She had her head on his shoulder and clutching his arm while they sat next to each other.

So I agree with others than say if you can't find a woman in PI, the problem is not them, it's YOU!

[newlifeinphilippines]

I think Silver Energy said something about being a sad sack and not getting a woman from PI.

While I've seen odd couples before, I saw one pennant to this thread today while waiting for my turn to donate Plasma.

An average looking PI girl was with a clearly obese White man who was in his early to mid 20's.

She had her head on his shoulder and clutching his arm while they sat next to each other.

So I agree with others than say if you can't find a woman in PI, the problem is not them, it's YOU!

average looking is not quality. Besides you dont know if she was a hoe or scammer or dirt poor and a complete idiot. We dont jump on a plane to screw a 5 rating girl.

[newlifeinphilippines]

rock why haven't you found the woman of your dreams yet since you live there in makati which is supposed to be the cream of the crop?

Well the opportunity cost is very high. Once you settle with one, you have to give up all the others lol. I've enjoyed dating and close friendships with many. I just don't fall in love easily. But just give me a bit more time and we'll see lol.

Also, I wanna add a plug for Mega Manila. There are some guys here who seem to not like Luzon girls for whatever reasons. Well you must remember, Manila area attracts a lot of girls from all over the Philippines just like top cities/capitals tend to do in general (attracting people from all over their respective countries). So just because you meet a girl up here does not mean she's necessarily a Metro Manila girl or even a Luzon girl.

if you had to pin it do you not fall in love because most of the girls are not good wives ultimately for whatever reason you think or cause you have so many options?

Also do you think most of the women going for foreigners have some serious issues even IF they are educated or have money? It seems like the ones tha thave money or education have some other bad issue if they want us (bad family and emotional issues, or are major sluts, or just want a quick visa out of the country and are very materialistic)

I've met some gals who I think would make outstanding wives. Same goes for when I was living in Taipei. But when you know several gals, you can enjoy the relatives strengths of each. For example, one might be extremely engaging and match you really well in conversation (like you two can just have a blast hanging out and chatting), another may blow you away physically in some way, another might be great for bouncing business ideas off, another might be a great hiking or running partner, etc. If you want everything, it's very hard to find in just one individual. Also, over time, you may get bored with just one person and crave some variety. These are arguments for guys like Lad who chose to live polyamorously.

But when you do fall in love, you basically take the strengths and weaknesses in a package deal and are willing to pay the price (opportunity cost) of being monogamous because that love has such a big value to you.

Most of the women I have known or dated do not restrict themselves to dating foreigners. They go for type, not race or nationality. But in many of their cases, their past boyfriends or courtiers have been kinda exceptional - Filipinos who've lived abroad and speak great English, mixed guys, guys who are quite tall and/or intellectual, athletes, etc. Such types are relatively rare in Philippines and I've heard it said several times by various girls that a lot of the most interesting Filipinos (best looking, smartest, most creative, etc.) tend to often be gay lol.

I do know a couple girls who are from great families who explicitly don't wanna date pure Filipinos. One of them is mixed race, fluent in several languages, and kinda lives in a bubble world, similar in ways to how many expats are removed from broader society. She's fluent in Tagalog yet doesn't feel comfortable in it. So she tends to always speak English at work and even out and about only using Tagalog when the counterpart has very poor English.

There is a significant group of 'exotic' girls who just love to to hang out with westerners. I think they realize that with their appearance and style, they have a much better chance with a lot of the foreign guys who don't mind their look (often some combo with at least some of these traits - dark skin, rough face or features, shorter stature, very slim body, and an obvious poorer look). Western guys, especially newer ones, are a lot less judgmental towards these types compared to local guys who tend to look down on them. The problem is, many of these types are more desperate in general or come from problem families. So in medium to long term, said foreigners encounter a lot of issues with these girls.

I've tended to avoid this last group. I'm naturally attracted to taller and often fairer skinned gals, even the plainer ones instead of these exotic ones. And I'm not much into drinking and wild nightlife. Just by cutting out this niche of girls, I think you improve your odds a lot already.

Its really simple on the boredom aspect to solve that. Its one reason why i want to find a hot girl who loves sex. If you ahve a hot girl who is good at sex you wont get as bored and youll be having so much sex and so horny you wont care. Thats how i plowed my bargirl 5 times a day for months. If the sex is good and she is hot, you wont get bored. But i had to get rid of her cause i wanted something more meaninful but it seems that isn't so easy to find either for what I want.

[Rock]

rock why haven't you found the woman of your dreams yet since you live there in makati which is supposed to be the cream of the crop?

Well the opportunity cost is very high. Once you settle with one, you have to give up all the others lol. I've enjoyed dating and close friendships with many. I just don't fall in love easily. But just give me a bit more time and we'll see lol.

Also, I wanna add a plug for Mega Manila. There are some guys here who seem to not like Luzon girls for whatever reasons. Well you must remember, Manila area attracts a lot of girls from all over the Philippines just like top cities/capitals tend to do in general (attracting people from all over their respective countries). So just because you meet a girl up here does not mean she's necessarily a Metro Manila girl or even a Luzon girl.

if you had to pin it do you not fall in love because most of the girls are not good wives ultimately for whatever reason you think or cause you have so many options?

Also do you think most of the women going for foreigners have some serious issues even IF they are educated or have money? It seems like the ones tha thave money or education have some other bad issue if they want us (bad family and emotional issues, or are major sluts, or just want a quick visa out of the country and are very materialistic)

I've met some gals who I think would make outstanding wives. Same goes for when I was living in Taipei. But when you know several gals, you can enjoy the relatives strengths of each. For example, one might be extremely engaging and match you really well in conversation (like you two can just have a blast hanging out and chatting), another may blow you away physically in some way, another might be great for bouncing business ideas off, another might be a great hiking or running partner, etc. If you want everything, it's very hard to find in just one individual. Also, over time, you may get bored with just one person and crave some variety. These are arguments for guys like Lad who chose to live polyamorously.

But when you do fall in love, you basically take the strengths and weaknesses in a package deal and are willing to pay the price (opportunity cost) of being monogamous because that love has such a big value to you.

Most of the women I have known or dated do not restrict themselves to dating foreigners. They go for type, not race or nationality. But in many of their cases, their past boyfriends or courtiers have been kinda exceptional - Filipinos who've lived abroad and speak great English, mixed guys, guys who are quite tall and/or intellectual, athletes, etc. Such types are relatively rare in Philippines and I've heard it said several times by various girls that a lot of the most interesting Filipinos (best looking, smartest, most creative, etc.) tend to often be gay lol.

I do know a couple girls who are from great families who explicitly don't wanna date pure Filipinos. One of them is mixed race, fluent in several languages, and kinda lives in a bubble world, similar in ways to how many expats are removed from broader society. She's fluent in Tagalog yet doesn't feel comfortable in it. So she tends to always speak English at work and even out and about only using Tagalog when the counterpart has very poor English.

There is a significant group of 'exotic' girls who just love to to hang out with westerners. I think they realize that with their appearance and style, they have a much better chance with a lot of the foreign guys who don't mind their look (often some combo with at least some of these traits - dark skin, rough face or features, shorter stature, very slim body, and an obvious poorer look). Western guys, especially newer ones, are a lot less judgmental towards these types compared to local guys who tend to look down on them. The problem is, many of these types are more desperate in general or come from problem families. So in medium to long term, said foreigners encounter a lot of issues with these girls.

I've tended to avoid this last group. I'm naturally attracted to taller and often fairer skinned gals, even the plainer ones instead of these exotic ones. And I'm not much into drinking and wild nightlife. Just by cutting out this niche of girls, I think you improve your odds a lot already.

Its really simple on the boredom aspect to solve that. Its one reason why i want to find a hot girl who loves sex. If you ahve a hot girl who is good at sex you wont get as bored and youll be having so much sex and so horny you wont care. Thats how i plowed my bargirl 5 times a day for months. If the sex is good and she is hot, you wont get bored. But i had to get rid of her cause i wanted something more meaninful but it seems that isn't so easy to find either for what I want.

You see, what's ideal varies so much from guy to guy. In my case, last girl I dated regularly here was a challenge for me because her sex drive was too strong. If a girl wants like 2 hours of aggressive sex on each meeting, that doesn't fit me well. I prefer soft cuddling and kissing more than anything else. From what I've seen, there are a lot of girls here who seem to really genuinely enjoy sex or at least intimacy. But there are also virgins and very conservative church girl types to be found.

You keep talking about a 'hot girl'. What exactly is your definition of this? Maybe you could post some sample images from Google? I'm curious about your taste.