Why multiculturalism sucks

[Ghost]

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[pandabear]

Doesn't multiculturalism work in places like Belgium, Switzerland, Finland, and South Africa?

[ladislav]

My essay on the topic:

http://expatriateobservations.blogspot. ... alism.html

[pandabear]

A demographic history of the USA

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographi ... ted_States

An interesting look at immigration to America in the 1750s:

http://www.eyewitnesstohistory.com/passage.htm

At the time of independence, a lot of Americans were German-speaking

http://www.understandingyourancestors.c ... ation.aspx

[Cornfed]

Doesn't multiculturalism work in places like Belgium, Switzerland, Finland, and South Africa?

So by your definition "working" is letting the land fall to marauding savages, such that, for example, out of about 12000 remaining white famers, about 4000 have been killed in the past 20 years? Of course it goes without saying that all the human-built infrastructure is being ruined. It is working in the sense that the multinational corporations are being able to exploit South Africa's mineral resources without sharing much of the wealth with the country's hominid inhabitants, since there is no united opposition against them doing so. Is that what you mean?

[pandabear]

Belgium has a Flemish-speaking population and a French-speaking population, sharing the country in relative harmony.

Switzerland has German, French, Italian and Romansch-speaking areas.

Finland has a big Swedish-speaking minority.

Singapore is doing okay.

Canada has a Francophone province. Canada is doing okay.

South Africa probably isn't as bad as some people think it is.

With multiculturalism, I'm not stuck with eating at McDonald's--I can eat Chinese, Greek, Mexican, Lebanese food--whatever I want.

[ladislav]

@pandabear. I think, in the above cases you have either indigenous populations of pretty much the same level of education/civilization ( as in Switzerland/Belgium) or those who immigrated at roughly the same time ( Singapore/ Canada). Problems begin when you have a rich country with an established culture and then, lots of very poor, uneducated people move in in huge numbers. Thus you have England with its Pakistanis, France with its Arab minority and Germany with its Turks. The economic/cultural gap is too big plus they are too recent. Malaysia/Singapore are OK now but remember the racial tensions in the '70ies. And there were wars between the English and the French in Canada. But that was a long time ago. They learned to live together after a couple of hundred years.

Arabs, Turks, etc will assimilate after 100 years, too. Or they will adopt/develop their own version of European Islam ala Bosnia and become a sort of a tolerant variety of Germans/Frenchmen. Multiculturalism does not work in the short term, but over ( a very long) time, it does. Takes a couple of generations. In case of other Euros= 2, in case of non Euros- 3-4.

[pandabear]

Good points. Although, here, we have Mexicans taking jobs that Americans don't want, Koreans opening businesses (like dry cleaning--which Americans don't want to do), Chinese running restaurants, Indians doing computer work, and Filipina nurses.

[Jester]

Doesn't multiculturalism work in places like Belgium, Switzerland, Finland, and South Africa?

I am not an expert on the countries mentioned, but let me share my impressions:

Belgians are all White, all Northern European, all Catholic. So, not THAT multiculti. But they are STILL only stuck with each other till the right moment. It will break up for sure. Flanders and Wallonia each have separate flags and so on.

EU in Brussels could almost be looked at as a bone thrown to the Flemings - or perhaps even, an occupation garrison.

If multiculti worked, then why wouldn't Catholic Belgium or at least Flanders, join Netherlands. Belgian Flanders and the Netherlands both (mostly) speak Dutch. Why? Because Netherlands is Protestant. And as FSchmidt obliquely points out above (in his typical terse fashion), religion/worldview may be a more important component of culture than ancestry.

In the case of Switzerland, each canton has its own language and religion. I think it works because they are NOT multiculti. They have a form of "geographic apartheid". Plus they are still White and central European, with a common history (fighting Romans, fighting Austrians, William Tell, etc)

South Africa I believe still has geographic apartheid, whites and Blacks living apart. I think even different nationalities of Blacks live apart, and Afrikaners still dream of independence, perhaps more realistic than ever since so many Anglo-hypocrites and Jew-hypocrites have left. If not for monocultural communities, I think there would be perpetual war.

Finland may be the best example of the four you listed. The Aryan Swedes and non-Aryan Finns live together, speak the common (Finnish) language, share national pride and so on. OTH, I think both are Lutheran -- again making a point for the FSchmidt thesis that a common religion is more important than common blood.

[Jester]

My essay on the topic:

http://expatriateobservations.blogspot. ... alism.html

Great article.

+1

I learned some things.

[Luc Furr]

Multiculturalism more than just sucks, it destroys countries. Why? Multiculturalism is always linked to immigration and immigration is theft.

[Jester]

Multiculturalism more than just sucks, it destroys countries. Why? Multiculturalism is always linked to immigration and immigration is theft.

Good point.

I would tweak your words a bit, to say, immigration is being invited into someone's home, on trust. If you don't contribute as much or more than you receive, then THAT is theft.

The fact that some goddam immigrant is "hardworking", or "just wants a better life for his family", is bullshit. The same can be said of a hungry termite.

[pandabear]

If multiculti worked, then why wouldn't Catholic Belgium or at least Flanders, join Netherlands. Belgian Flanders and the Netherlands both (mostly) speak Dutch. Why? Because Netherlands is Protestant. And as FSchmidt obliquely points out above (in his typical terse fashion), religion/worldview may be a more important component of culture than ancestry.

I think that very few people in Belgium or Holland ever go to church any more, anyway. Plus, they seem to enjoy being in the European Union. If you're from one EU country, then you can go and live anywhere you want in the EU.

[publicduende]

I would tweak your words a bit, to say, immigration is being invited into someone's home, on trust. If you don't contribute as much or more than you receive, then THAT is theft.

The fact that some goddam immigrant is "hardworking", or "just wants a better life for his family", is bullshit. The same can be said of a hungry termite.

Agreed, up to a certain point. You forget to say that more often than not, and surely less and less often after the post-WW2 years, multiculturalism is not something that happens by design. Yes, countries like UK and France had to resort to inviting million of immigrants from ex colonies to rebuild their war-torn economies and infrastructure. Yet the bulk of immigration in recent decades comes from the kind of extreme poverty, lack of basic freedom and corruption that result from their fragile societies being played like fiddlers by either ends of the cold war imperialism (so US or Russia), or the good ol' American corporates or hyper-liberal think tanks.

Just ask yourself, how many decent families had to relocate to the same countries, or Germany and Switzerland, or the US themselves, to avoid political or ideological persecution, or the kind of sheer poverty above.

Your ancestors from Armenia should know very well, and judging from what you shared with us you should remember very well.

[Luc Furr]

Multiculturalism more than just sucks, it destroys countries. Why? Multiculturalism is always linked to immigration and immigration is theft.

Good point.

I would tweak your words a bit, to say, immigration is being invited into someone's home, on trust. If you don't contribute as much or more than you receive, then THAT is theft.

The fact that some goddam immigrant is "hardworking", or "just wants a better life for his family", is bullshit. The same can be said of a hungry termite.

Certainly you are correct regarding the type of theft you are referring to....parasitism. I was referring to the immigrant stealing a portion of someone's home by becoming a citizen. America is a republic....that means it's citizens own the country. Bring an immigrant, as a citizen, into a republic and you have diluted ownership (much the same as printing shares in a corporation) and stolen from the republic's citizens. To my mind an immigrant made a citizen in a republic is the equivalent of a foreigner being added to the Royal family in a monarchy.