This forum will be dead by early 2015

[Paloaltoguy]

You silly people

[The]

I just banned anatol for a week.

Good. Thank you very much. Now ban PAG or make Jester a mod and have him done it. You yourself suggested him as a good mod and a lot of people agreed, including me.

How do you define a troll?

Now I dont know who died and made Jester this sort of savior when it comes to moderation....Jester absolutely should not be a moderator on these forums.....Winston should not consult with an left win loon like Marcos on who should be a modertor, but it should be under his own volition.....

[Hero]

Anyone remember "AmericanWomenSuck.com"? That was a kick-ass forum about 10 years ago, but eventually all of the interesting posters went away and it died with a whimper, not a bang. So yes, I believe the same could happen here. Seems like I can't post anymore without getting flamed by a bunch of weirdos.

[Yohan]

I don't think this HA Forum will be dead soon, as there are always newcomers, plenty of young men, who have problems with Western women.
There is also no shortage of older men, who were badly treated and financially ruined by their ex-wives.
Who does not like in such a situation to get some information about women from abroad?

However I agree it would be good for this HA-Forum to erase various comments and some entire threads which contain nothing but merely troll-style BS-talk. For sure, this would help to improve the image of this forum.

[Winston]

This forum won't die because of the network effect. Everyone goes to the sites with a high google ranking and most of the rest of the Internet is ignored. It seems that a forum can continue with garbage content and trolls forever. Look at craiglist. It's even worse. My question is once a website achieves a google ranking, how does it every die?

Yes it will. One change to Google ranking algorithm and he's gone... Unlike Craig's list which is a standalone product, all of his traffic comes from Google searches. People read a few lines and then click X or click on something else that catches their eye... like ads for women.

thats how i got wiped out in 2012 when google slapped my sites so i lost most of my search traffic. I changed tactics now (and what i promoted) and dont really rely on google. Recurring members helps a bit but only up to a certain point. If you rely on google for all your new members and you lose that rank then you will bleed members quickly unless the initial members come back at a higher rate than your bleed loss but im not sure winston has enough repeat visitors right now that would offset a google loss.

That algorithm change back in 2012 destroyed tons of content mills. The next change will eliminate 'hate' sites.

How do you know this? Google's algorithms are not public information and plus this site is not technically a hate site. How do you have any inside knowledge? What makes you credible when you b.s. a lot and have nothing to prove your claims?

[Winston]

Anyone remember "AmericanWomenSuck.com"? That was a kick-ass forum about 10 years ago, but eventually all of the interesting posters went away and it died with a whimper, not a bang. So yes, I believe the same could happen here. Seems like I can't post anymore without getting flamed by a bunch of weirdos.

The reason that site went down is because everyone was banned, including me, and the owner, Chris, took it down and changed it to ghost nation.

But we are nothing like that. I ban very few people whereas Chris banned everyone and was a nutcase. So you can't compare us with them.

This site exists because of destiny. Higher forces want our message sent out into the world so to help save men who are suffering and losing it.

There is a war in the heavens and there are forces of light and goodness too. Everything has an opposite to counter it. So the dark forces do not have free reign.

[Winston]

I don't think this HA Forum will be dead soon, as there are always newcomers, plenty of young men, who have problems with Western women.
There is also no shortage of older men, who were badly treated and financially ruined by their ex-wives.
Who does not like in such a situation to get some information about women from abroad?

However I agree it would be good for this HA-Forum to erase various comments and some entire threads which contain nothing but merely troll-style BS-talk. For sure, this would help to improve the image of this forum.

True. But that's assuming everything remains the same. We have no control over what Google does or what the US government does or what the illuminati and NSA does, etc if they decide we are a threat to them.

The bad threads are already pushed down into the archives and will not be seen by new members. So no worries there.

[Cornfed]

Winston, you are under pressure to do precisely what other anti-establishment sites did to destroy themselves. This has been a long time coming and very cleverly orchestrated. For once your default strategy to life is the right one - do nothing. The problems will sort themselves out if only you don't cave in and do stupid stuff.

[Jester]

What all these forums really need is what they used to call a "twit filter" back in the NNTP/Usenet days. What that means is you can specify users whose posts you don't want to ever see. Those users won't be banned from the forum, but the things they post will be invisible to the people who twit filter them (unless other users quote these twits in their replies).

The ignore option already exists, but I don't like it: new members or potential member visitors would still see the bullshit and troll posts and it would make the forums look bad. And when quoted the troll posts would still show up, but discussions would look weird as a result of it. Troublesome members are best off having their posting priviliges (permanently) revoked, IMO.

I agree.

Winston always touts the "ignore' option as the solution, but it isn;t. Worst of all, you still see the "ignored" troll's handle on the index. So you still have to decide if you want to visit the thread or not.

Don't ignore. Eject.

[Jester]

Yeah, I know enough about the web to see that Winston's still probably doing very well and it looks to remain that way. What's important here is that the soul of the forum is dying. Nothing to do with traffic, everything to do with quality. Too many good posters leaving in a very short time frame. Others not posting nearly as often, myself included. It's a shame you didn't join a year earlier Marcos. Last one on a sinking ship it seems. If all that matters is money, leave it be. If the goal here is a healthy online community then reform is necessary. So which is it?

Exactly.

the idea that something is good if it still makes money is exactly what is wrong with the "Western" world. Wall Street is doing fine -- so why leave the USA? Hmmm I think I'll stay then, Yeah right.

I miss your stuff, ABCDavid, and I know you actually WENT to China and probably could have posted a LOT more about if the forum was a better place.

You who else I miss? DaveWe. Did the do, snagged a hot Philly wife, took GREAT photos, but started his own blog. At first he cross-posted, out of courtesy and friendship (I believe), but doesnt seem to lately.


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Ahoy Captain Wu. The motley crew be plottin MUT'NY, and a sad thing 'tis. What'll it be cap'n sir?

[Jester]

I don't think this HA Forum will be dead soon, as there are always newcomers, plenty of young men, who have problems with Western women.
There is also no shortage of older men, who were badly treated and financially ruined by their ex-wives.
Who does not like in such a situation to get some information about women from abroad?

However I agree it would be good for this HA-Forum to erase various comments and some entire threads which contain nothing but merely troll-style BS-talk. For sure, this would help to improve the image of this forum.

Great idea.

I doubt Winston would ever dedicate the time or energy though...

[Jester]

This site exists because of destiny. Higher forces want our message sent out into the world so to help save men who are suffering and losing it.

Yeah but if you hadnt done it, God had plenty of others who could have - or will.
Don't just say to each other, 'We're safe, for we are descendants of Abraham.' That means nothing, for I tell you, God can create children of Abraham from these very stones.
The Gospel of Matthew chapter 3 verse 9
I.e. you CAN be replaced, chief.

There is a war in the heavens and there are forces of light and goodness too. Everything has an opposite to counter it. So the dark forces do not have free reign.

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."
-Edmund Burke

"If it is up to be, it is up to me."
-- William H. Johnsen

[Jester]

I am hesitant to have Marcos be a moderator because his opinions are too strong. I like his personality and views and he is a good man with truth and good morals though. He would be good as a comrade. But as a moderator, I'm not so sure.

Thats why I suggested him as a mod. Because he actually has a point of view. And it happens that point of view coincides with the vision of HA.

Did I suggest him as Grand Old Man of the High Council? No. If you want to give that position to someone who has been here longer, I could take that one. Or better still, give it to DaveWe if you can entice him back in. DaveWe is my choice there, personally. But otherwise the names you have on that thread will work. Do it.

But for Mod, you need a guy who will cut when its time to cut (inspired by Musashi Miyamoto).

Is this a movement, Winston, or is it a pastime for sexually frustrated guys with high IQ's? Time to decide.

Yet we have more posters now than ever.

What a crock o' shit.

[Hero]

Anyone remember "AmericanWomenSuck.com"? That was a kick-ass forum about 10 years ago, but eventually all of the interesting posters went away and it died with a whimper, not a bang. So yes, I believe the same could happen here. Seems like I can't post anymore without getting flamed by a bunch of weirdos.

The reason that site went down is because everyone was banned, including me, and the owner, Chris, took it down and changed it to ghost nation.

But we are nothing like that. I ban very few people whereas Chris banned everyone and was a nutcase. So you can't compare us with them.

This site exists because of destiny. Higher forces want our message sent out into the world so to help save men who are suffering and losing it.

There is a war in the heavens and there are forces of light and goodness too. Everything has an opposite to counter it. So the dark forces do not have free reign.

I thought the guy's name was Jimmy, not Chris. But yeah, he was a nutcase and a control freak. He even went so far as to rewrite other people's posts to his own liking.

I've read enough ranting for now. What I'm interested in is constructive advice on how to quit my job and move to the Philippines long-term (Dominican Republic is my second choice).

[abcdavid01]

Yeah, I know enough about the web to see that Winston's still probably doing very well and it looks to remain that way. What's important here is that the soul of the forum is dying. Nothing to do with traffic, everything to do with quality. Too many good posters leaving in a very short time frame. Others not posting nearly as often, myself included. It's a shame you didn't join a year earlier Marcos. Last one on a sinking ship it seems. If all that matters is money, leave it be. If the goal here is a healthy online community then reform is necessary. So which is it?

Exactly.

the idea that something is good if it still makes money is exactly what is wrong with the "Western" world. Wall Street is doing fine -- so why leave the USA? Hmmm I think I'll stay then, Yeah right.

I miss your stuff, ABCDavid, and I know you actually WENT to China and probably could have posted a LOT more about if the forum was a better place.

You who else I miss? DaveWe. Did the do, snagged a hot Philly wife, took GREAT photos, but started his own blog. At first he cross-posted, out of courtesy and friendship (I believe), but doesnt seem to lately.


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Ahoy Captain Wu. The motley crew be plottin MUT'NY, and a sad thing 'tis. What'll it be cap'n sir?

I've been busy with school, but over break I plan to start a blog and post an edited version of the journal I kept while in China.