Winston in China! Updates and Photos

[ethan_sg]

Yea plus a lot of people, when they use the online route, they tend to just pick the low hanging fruits because they just fall onto their laps easily and don't require that much effort. Often the low hanging fruits are not good quality women, so when things eventually go pear-shaped they think all women online are like this. The online market is just like real life, you gotta be discriminating and discerning, and accept that good quality women will require more work and effort. I've met high and low quality women, both online and offline. Every girl has her individual circumstances. Life isn't as black and white as 'Offline good. Online bad'. If you could read Chinese, you will find an even higher concentration of good quality women on the Chinese dating sites.

[Winston]

Winston you have to ask yourself if you see yourself having a future in China. Do you? Because if not, where will you be taking your trophy? I know you are still in the early stages, and your wild goosehunt is not yet at an end, but what's your end game here?

I'm also curious to know what the take of your parents is on your recent adventures. I know your father is a man whose judgement and wisdom you admire and respect, you may ask him for his imput. I'm also curious for what Dianne has to say, although I expect a little Schadenfreude at your misfortune on her part.

Why do you ask this question? Of course i can have a future in china if i want. I have a good social life here and can meet girls and have lost a lot of weight. You can ask Ethan_sg and ghost and rock. Ive sent them lots of pics of parties ive went to on Wechat.

The end game is to find a wife and soulmate and stable partner. Isnt that obvious? Something about me makes women unstable. Yet they are stable around other men. I dont know why. Maybe my vibe breeds chaos. Lol

My parents of course hope i find a stable quality partner to settle down with. Isnt that what all parents want?

Why are you asking such obvious questions?

[BlackKnight]

Who would not suffer on a 39 hour train ride with no seat?

How were you able to sleep?

A better question would be why didn't he just offer a $50 - $100 for a seat or room? Geez. That would have showed her a real man

This is a stupid question. You must be a low IQ poster.

Firstly, the tickets to the sleeper beds on the train cost almost 100 dollars so offering 100 dollars as a bribe would be senseless.

Second, those with sleeper beds are usually upper middle class so they dont need such money anyway. They are focused on comfort, not on taking small bribes that dont interest them.

Duh. Dont you have any commmon sense?

As to how to sleep on a train with no seat, well you dont. Even when you have a seat its hard to sleep on an upright seat. I certainly cant. Or you lay your head down on the meal table in front of you. Either way you cant sleep long.

On long train rides its better to have a sleeper. But the cost of a sleeper bed is almost the same as a plane ticket. So go figure. They arent as cheap as the sleeper beds on russian trains which are dirt cheap.

Thats why lisa was an imbecile to insist that we go on a train with no seats for 39 hours. Very stupid for sure. I shouldnt have listened to her. We were supposed to go to shanghai anyway but lisa said there was nothing special there so she didnt want to go. She was originally fine with going anywhere but she got more opinionated later on. Apparently not much appeals to her. And she cares more about where we go than about spending quality time together, which is upside down and messed up.

Lol@ upper middle class(whose annual household income ranges between 106,000-229,000 yuan(16K - 36K) supposedly NOT interested in saving $100 dollars. Moreover, why would an upper middle class person take a 39 hour train rides to save $20? A 39 hour train ride = about 5 days of work. 5 days of work at $10/hour = $390. Everyone on that train was probably dirt poor and would have jumped out of their seat at $50 cash. The people in the sleeper cars probably had better planning or connections. I guess that is why women love me. I'm a creative problem solver

[Winston]

Droid,
Yeah it does seem like Lisa does seem to have borderline personality disorder. See here:

http://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/topics/b ... ndex.shtml

http://psychcentral.com/disorders/borde ... -symptoms/

At first she worshipped me and said i was her god and jesus. She loved everything about me. Then when she turned against me she started spinning everything against me, and even said i was the stupidest guy she ever met, etc. All without basis. Totally illogical.

Many American women do this too so it seems that BPD may be common with them too.

When i contacted the indian guy she dated, and she found out, she freaked and said she hated me from the core of her heart. Then she sent me this suicide message. I havent heard from her since, but i know shes still alive because she changed her profile photo.

Final message for my life and for you:Thanks to your help i become a slut.You should know me.Im easygoing down to earth and kindhearted..but that means im a coward with Flaccid personality which easy to be cheated and be calculated.hard for me to reject or refuse others'good willingness.i Don't want to hurt both of you..but i don't know how to deal it well without too much pain and suffering.i try but fail.But you hurt a innocent Stupid girl..i will suicide in the midnight.hate myself hate the world.hope you will feel guilty one day.

I dont know why shes claiming to be a victim or that i hurt her. I never did anything wrong to her at all. Its like shes making up stuff. I swear.

[Winston]

Who would not suffer on a 39 hour train ride with no seat?

How were you able to sleep?

A better question would be why didn't he just offer a $50 - $100 for a seat or room? Geez. That would have showed her a real man

This is a stupid question. You must be a low IQ poster.

Firstly, the tickets to the sleeper beds on the train cost almost 100 dollars so offering 100 dollars as a bribe would be senseless.

Second, those with sleeper beds are usually upper middle class so they dont need such money anyway. They are focused on comfort, not on taking small bribes that dont interest them.

Duh. Dont you have any commmon sense?

As to how to sleep on a train with no seat, well you dont. Even when you have a seat its hard to sleep on an upright seat. I certainly cant. Or you lay your head down on the meal table in front of you. Either way you cant sleep long.

On long train rides its better to have a sleeper. But the cost of a sleeper bed is almost the same as a plane ticket. So go figure. They arent as cheap as the sleeper beds on russian trains which are dirt cheap.

Thats why lisa was an imbecile to insist that we go on a train with no seats for 39 hours. Very stupid for sure. I shouldnt have listened to her. We were supposed to go to shanghai anyway but lisa said there was nothing special there so she didnt want to go. She was originally fine with going anywhere but she got more opinionated later on. Apparently not much appeals to her. And she cares more about where we go than about spending quality time together, which is upside down and messed up.

Lol@ upper middle class(whose annual household income ranges between 106,000-229,000 yuan(16K - 36K) supposedly NOT interested in saving $100 dollars. Moreover, why would an upper middle class person take a 39 hour train rides to save $20? A 39 hour train ride = about 5 days of work. 5 days of work at $10/hour = $390. Everyone on that train was probably dirt poor and would have jumped out of their seat at $50 cash. The people in the sleeper cars probably had better planning or connections. I guess that is why women love me. I'm a creative problem solver

You idiot. Not everyone there was on a 39 hour train ride. The train stops at many cities. Many people get on and off. You are so dumb.

The sleeper beds cost almost 100 dollars so why would someone give theirs up for 100 dollars? Stop wasting forum space with stupid statements. Dummy.

[BlackKnight]

Okay everyone, lets break down the idiocy.

First off lol @ this: she put us on a 39 hour train ride with NO SEAT! We had to sit on our luggage and wait for available seats, which never came because Chinese trains are always super packed and overcrowded, unlike Russian trains which always have available seats and beds. I assumed Chinese trains were like Russian trains, and found out the hard way that they weren't, obviously because Russia is nowhere near as crowded as China is, so their trains always have available seats and beds and so you can show up at the train station and easily buy a seat or bed.

1. Not everyone there was on a 39 hour train ride. The train stops at many cities. Many people get on and off. You are so dumb

So it should have been cheaper to buy a seat you backwards fool! Since you say you can just wait for available seats, I take it the seats are not allocated or set aside for a specific persons?

2. The sleeper beds cost almost 100 dollars so why would someone give theirs up for 100 dollars?

Because the outcome would be the same! They could get their destination without paying a dine and just sit on their luggage (like you two dumbbells) or wait for available seats in second class. I've bought first class seats before (even tho I wasn't going very far) just that is all they had available! If someone offered me $50 and a second class seat I might take it if I was poor like most Chinese.

[PeterAndrewNolan]

Well Lisa and I split up. After 2 happy weeks together of romance, fun and sex, she started becoming irritable and moody, then she started unnecessary arguments about little things or nothing.

Hey Winston,
you still need this EXPLAINED to you?

She was just shit testing you. And if you kept her she would shit test you for the rest of your life. That is what women are like now.

Really. You should relocate to Eastern Europe. Women do FAR less of this stuff there.

Best Regards

Peter

[PeterAndrewNolan]

"I think you answer your own question. I didn't know LIsa was a divorce woman. Not saying all divorce women are messed up but it can be trouble dealing with a divorce woman. You only dated Lisa for 2 weeks...just take as a short tem experience and don't dwell on it too much. "

OMFG...Winston...don't tell me this woman is a divorcee....please....don't tell me that.

[PeterAndrewNolan]

The end game is to find a wife and soulmate and stable partner. Isnt that obvious? Something about me makes women unstable. Yet they are stable around other men. I dont know why. Maybe my vibe breeds chaos. Lol

My parents of course hope i find a stable quality partner to settle down with. Isnt that what all parents want?

Why are you asking such obvious questions?

Winston,
women in the west, and China it seems, are not suitable for marriage any more.

No woman will be your "Soul Mate". You would be better off looking for a flying unicorn. You will be more likely to find one. I thought you had outgrown the stupidity of "soul mate".

Western women are just despicable people now.

At least eastern european women will not try all that BS on you.

ALL women are unstable. It has nothing to do with you.

If your parents wanted you to find a good wife they would have spoken up by now about how disgusting women are and demanded that women be held to at least SOME sort of standard. You should tell your parents that the very fact they have remained silent would indicate to you they do not give a sh*t about whether you get f***ed over in divorce and for this very reason you feel no obligation, or even desire, to go and get yourself f***ed over in divorce.

Remember...my own father thinks the crimes I have suffered are perfectly ok. He even invited criminals to my mothers funeral.

The men my generation and my fathers generation are gutless, spineless, jellyfish, p***y beggars who are only ever telling MEN what to do while they allow their women to commit all sorts of crimes.

Don't entertain this BS of "I will find my unicorn". I have dated enough women to know that ALL of them are pretty bad. The BEST woman I know told me to my face she would cuckhold me if she changed her mind on children....the BEST woman I know.

That is what women are....they are very selfish people who do not give a sh*t about men.

Get used to it. Consider yourself lucky you were told this before you made the BIG mistake of having children.

Once you have kids....well...its not like there is a return chute or anything else like that. You have to just make the best of it then.

But the very fact there is STILL not one woman in all of Australia and Ireland who says women should be held equal before the law should disavow you of your delusions about women....right?

[PeterAndrewNolan]

"1. I never told you all this. But lisa wasnt loyal to me either. While i was away in Taiwan, she dated an indian guy and even slept with him. She confessed all this to me openly. So she said it didnt count as cheating. Most of my friends said not to take her back but i was madly in love and thought she was my soulmate. So i fought to win her back. Now she misses him and is trying to go back to him but hes had it with her."

LOL! Its not cheating when I tell you I am a whore who sleeps around....yeah...right.

And then you wanted her back?

You are "madly in love" with someone you knew for 2 weeks?

WTF is wrong with you.

How old are you? 12?

Snap out of it Winston. You know women better than that.

[PeterAndrewNolan]

that there is something in my personality and vibe that repels women. But dianne cannot explain it in words, just like lisa couldnt either. That sounds creepy.

Nothing creepy...you are a beta...and women HATE betas.

You are more beta than most guys so you are also low down the beta list.

I mean....you are banging some woman who is banging some bad boy and you want to "win her back"?

That is going to repel ANY woman....you are demonstrating you are a long way down the male hierarchy.

Women desire men that other women desire....not men that are p***y beggars.

Even my own wife had no respect for me when we divorced because I was a beta who loved her and was kind to her, the children and small animals.

Now I am alpha as f*** women throw themselves at me....and I do not care about any of them. I sure as hell am not "kind" to any women other than my favs.

And when my fav#1 sh*t tested me my alpha pal counselled me to go get another GF and rub fav#1s face in it so I did.

And it worked wonderfully well.....all through 2010 I had two women who both knew about each other vying hard for my "attention" which we both know translates in to "future money".

When my fav#1 finally gave up on me because I refused to have children it was only 2 months later that my fav#3 moved on too.

You do not get women in to you by being "nice" and "friendly" and "faithful". Those are the LAST thing women want in a man.

You get women in to you by being an a**hole and being desired by a lot of other women. The exact opposite of what women say they want which shows you what a bunch of liars they are.

[Gadfly]

But the very fact there is STILL not one woman in all of Australia and Ireland who says women should be held equal before the law should disavow you of your delusions about women....right?

When a man expects a woman to say that, he's actually debasing himself as a man.

Demanding fairness from women is not only absurd, it's disgraceful, and undignified. It means you've already lost.

Women's nature is such that they will always be subordinate to men. No man-made concept like "equality" will change that fact.

[droid]

@peterandrewnolan

Too many sweeping statements, you come off as completely jaded and biased. It seems you have been exposed to only toxic women.
Winston's girl was a particular nut case as I described, no need to say AWALT, that would be too easy.
While many of the things you say are true, i would say they apply only to varying degrees.

Women just reflect the corresponding culture or their particular situation regarding availability of suitors, as has been discussed in this forum before; Correspondingly, there are still many women out there who are shy and that behave more or less decently. It's hard to buy what you imply about having to be a total douche and not being able to be a decent man to a decent wife and have a decent family, as was prevalent in the past.

[ladislav]

y gsjackson » Wed Aug 12, 2015 11:46 pm

TheBoom wrote:
Re: someone's question about working there when over 55.

Very hard to get VISAs in tier one cities like Shanghai after 55 unless lucky. Chinese consider 50 elderly. Many tier 2 cities that are too boring for young people will still hire older workers even into mid-60's.

Interesting info, and welcome to the forum from, I believe, the oldest fart here.

Re this last paragraph: this bias the Chinese have in favor of hiring only younger Americans to teach English is quite ironic. The Chinese evidently have no idea how much American schools have lapsed in imparting English literacy over the last few decades. The youngsters they're so eager to hire can teach only spoken English, within the narrowest framework of vocabulary and concepts. They can't even begin to teach written English, because they can't themselves construct coherent paragraphs. I say this after having graded many hundreds of papers written by American college students over the last several years.

gsjackson

It's done for three reasons:

1)Young Americans are appealing- they look good in the classroom.
2) You pay them less and they are happy. All they care about is partying.
3) Even if their English is not super duper, it's good enough for Chinese people. If a Chinese person can talk and write as a non-intelligent American, that's still great achievement.

The same reason why Koreans prefer Filipinos- cheap and the English is good enough. Most Koreans ( and also Chinese, Japanese) can't even make the most basic sentence or understand the most basic English even after 12 years of high school. Phrases such as: Where are you going? and "How are you doing?" are not understood. If a Korean can speak and write English like a Filipino, it's already great progress.

Can that American write a basic email? They obviously could because they got hired. They also could fill out visa form. Good enough! Hired.

[chanta76]

ladislav,

That's precisely why ESL is not a great career choice for long term prospects not sure how expats that are lifers survive in Asia.

Winston,

I think you fall fast for a girl too quickly and don't use common sense . For example the 39 hours train ride. You should of put your foot down and waited a couple of days to get better seat or as black knight said it paid up more money for better seats. At the same time if this girl cheated on you she is no good.

It's like as if you love radar is damage or something. You remind me of a guy I know that only attracts f***ed up girls. His messed up himself and every girl his been involved with were messed up .