Of course I don't consider it stealing. I don't think these massive corporate supermarkets are owned by little old retirees who might have shares and earn a pittance from these corporations, they're owned mostly by either bigger corporations like Blackrock or by super rich families who rake in billions in profit.MrMan wrote: ↑January 15th, 2024, 9:49 pmthat doesn't make it any less stealing to steal from them. And Walmart is owned by shareholders. There are people who work and have 401Ks or other retirement plans who get a tiny sliver of Walmart, and when millions of people like yourself steal from their business, they may lose money they would have otherwise gotten. That includes retirees.
These supermarkets, like Walmart just as an example, pay their workers minimum wage and make up some bullshit cost of living crisis and blame "people like myself" for rising costs, yet somehow despite a cost of living crisis and dirty tea leafs like me their profits keep getting higher and higher. How are they making so much in profit while everyone else is struggling? Something isn't right.
So what makes all of the world's food Walmarts property? What right do these assholes have to dictate who can afford to eat and who can't. There was nothing wrong with what @kangarunner suggested, you just don't get it because you're a brainwashed NPC and naturalised slave of the system who would rather support corporate profit than a universal right to eat.Why would a sense of charity make me want to force some other person or entity to give up their property, instead of me giving my own. @kangarunner 's response didn't make much sense either. A 'Christian thing to do' is to feed the poor, not take other people's property to do so. It doesn't have to cost me anything to steal someone else's bread to give to another.
A Christian thing to do. I guess Jesus should have had two fish sandwiches and told the five thousand to f**k off and get their own. the right thing to do you said would be to feed the poor, but you don't think a corporate entity that makes billions in profit a year should be held to that moral standard?
"According to a report by The Grocer, supermarkets throw away 100,000 of edible food annually in the UK alone. In fact, it's estimated that the UK's total food waste could feed upwards of 30 million people a year. As a result, supermarkets have a responsibility to reduce food waste as much as possible."
This is what kangarunner was talking about you senile old fool. These cunts are throwing tons of shit away that they could just as easily give to millions of people. These figures are from the UK alone! Imagine how much food waste corporations produce collectively across the entire world. It makes me sick! What's even more sickening is brainwashed wally brained idiots with their tongues stuck up corporate asshole.
It's a good thing you give food to homeless. I try to help people as much as I can, but I don't have too much money so what I can do is severely limited.If any man will not work, neither should he eat is from St. Paul in the Bible. Paul also said that he left the elders of the church an example of working with his own hands to support the weak. There are people who aren't able to work and support themselves. There are also people who are diligent people who just haven't found a job. Not all work is in 'a job' that pays. If someone is out of work, he can volunteer to do various things or work on trying to start a business that might eventually support himself and his family. I figure if a man doesn't deserve to eat, that's between him and God. I haven't been out giving food to the homeless in a while, but I don't interview them to see if any of them refuse to work.
I don't think people should have to work as slaves to be honest. I think people should be free to enjoy their Iives as much as possible. Work is evil and drains people of their mental and physical health. It's little wonder so many people in the modernised world have so much mental illness and so much disconnect. It's all because of the toxic cult of hard work.
What kind of response was this? did you even understand what I was saying?Says the thief.
I think this would be the equivalent of people buying a millionth of a bitcoin in cryptocurrency. Follow the numbers and all the profit is being funnelled one way and one way only. Right up to the top. Poor old Margaret across the road doesn't even get a sniff.Your neighbors may own stock in Walmart. And if Walmart mades 20% last year and makes 10% profit this year, the value of the stock could go _down_ and your little old lady retiree neighbor could be out money if she had to sell stock or not get a dividend that year. (I don't know whether Walmart pays dividends or under what circumstances. That's up to management for each company.)
Maybe you should watch a video about how corporations work. They have shareholders. They don't just own themselves.
I don't know if they are 'artificially raising their prices.' That probably happens in some cases. In the US, during Covid, the government invented more money and doled it out when fewer people were working. Our flimsy fiat currency is supposed to be backed up by GDP. Fewer people working and making stuff means our money is worth less, and they were doling more out (digitally), so a little while later, inflation was sure to hit, which it did, and we are still feeling the effects. In the US, the Dollar Tree used to sell everything for a dollar. Inflation went up pretty quick. Instead of filling all of their stores with even cheaper junk from China, now just about everything there is $1.25. Did they artificially raise their prices? Probably not. They probably couldn't afford to buy the same junk and sell it for $1.00, so they had to sell it for $1.25.
If what you said here was true we wouldn't see their profits increasing so drastically. Look at all that shit with the fuel crisis! They were charging a fortune for gas and blamed it on the war in Ukraine. Then when you look at their profit numbers the profits keep on getting higher and higher. So if it was costing them more to produce the same stuff and they had to sell it for a higher cost you would see their profits would stay roughly the same or raise marginally, not as exponentially as they have done. These bastards are robbing us blind!
They give away a very small percentage to food banks. Just enough so they can white wash their way through life and trick gullible fools into believing they're a benevolent entity, when they're not. As for the point about legal liability is this really a reason to allow people to starve? I'm calling horseshit!I used to manage a group home. Large grocery store chains donated lots of food to the food bank right before it expired. We'd buy food for 16 cents a pound, even the meat. I suspect the ministries and charities that fed the homeless shopped at the same food bank. I don't know about all the stores, but at least back then, there were grocery store chains giving food away.
A lot of food stays good past the expiration date, but I suspect if grocery stores are locking up dumpsters, they might be concerned of getting sued for eating spoiled food out of the dumpster-- that and making an awful mess. Around here, a lock on a dumpster might keep a racoon out. Those critters could make a big mess.
None of your arguments here make it any less stealing to steal from the grocery stores. In that line of work, they will have waste and spoilage. People do too. In the US, maybe a third of food has to be thrown away. People buy a lot of food, put it in the refrigerator, and don't eat up their leftovers. Restaurants are afraid people will get sick. Health departments want food below 40 or 45 or over so many degrees, maybe 140 F. Giving old food away is a legal liability.
If you steal food from supermarkets, it adds to their costs and they raise their prices more for the honest poor who do not steal from the store.
My home town is a small town that was full of family owned businesses as I was growing up. I would've never stolen from small independently owned businesses, we had a greengrocer, bakery, butcher etc. When Tesco came to our town they promised 100 new job openings that in the end were all internal vacancies. Furthermore, all the family owned businesses were put out of business because it was impossible to compete with a corporate giant like that.
You can't compare some guy throwing out half a loaf of moldy bread to a corporate supermarket disposing of tons of food that has nothing wrong with it. They should give all this food away free of charge if they can't sell it. Not that it should belong to them in the first place. The right to eat should be a universal human right.