Decline Of The West

[publicduende]

This doesn't explain why there are so few women in positions of power, and yet those who manage to make it to the top are absolutely world class. A woman in a position of authority is probably a woman twice as smart as the average counterpart who had to work four times harder to get there.

The reason that women shouldn't vote has nothing to do with their intelligence or competence. It has to do with the fact that men's instincts are designed to support the tribe while women's instincts are designed to support her and her children. Women have no instinctual attachment to the tribe, meaning society or fairness. Women will always vote for their selfish short-term benefit which is feminism, and this inevitably destroys society.

This doesn't make any sense at all. Your anthropological argument might apply to decisions made within a family circle, perhaps a woman's attention to her own children vs a man's attention to his own parents and extended family. But voting is a political (in the Greek sense of "polis", public community) act that has nothing to do with a woman's maternal or family-bound instincts. The reason why US and Western society are in full decline is because the democratic process is broken and rigged, and assuming you're voting a good man all the way to power, he will have to return favours, mingle with the existing party mainstream and will have near-zero opportunity to be heard and get real change to pass. This assuming he is genuine in his ideas, not a wolf in a sheep's clothes like Obama. But we know most of the people you guys vote only want to leverage their position to get rich quick (never heard of the massive insider trading that goes on in both your chambers?) and cement their status.

Feminists the way you define them, assuming they really exist and have any power, are a fringe, they're not a majority! Most women are intellectually competent people driven by the same instincts and desires as men, not some evil lodge in their mission to destroy mankind!

[gsjackson]

This doesn't explain why there are so few women in positions of power, and yet those who manage to make it to the top are absolutely world class. A woman in a position of authority is probably a woman twice as smart as the average counterpart who had to work four times harder to get there.

The reason that women shouldn't vote has nothing to do with their intelligence or competence. It has to do with the fact that men's instincts are designed to support the tribe while women's instincts are designed to support her and her children. Women have no instinctual attachment to the tribe, meaning society or fairness. Women will always vote for their selfish short-term benefit which is feminism, and this inevitably destroys society.

This doesn't make any sense at all. Your anthropological argument might apply to decisions made within a family circle, perhaps a woman's attention to her own children vs a man's attention to his own parents and extended family. But voting is a political (in the Greek sense of "polis", public community) act that has nothing to do with a woman's maternal or family-bound instincts. The reason why US and Western society are in full decline is because the democratic process is broken and rigged, and assuming you're voting a good man all the way to power, he will have to return favours, mingle with the existing party mainstream and will have near-zero opportunity to be heard and get real change to pass. This assuming he is genuine in his ideas, not a wolf in a sheep's clothes like Obama. But we know most of the people you guys vote only want to leverage their position to get rich quick (never heard of the massive insider trading that goes on in both your chambers?) and cement their status.

Feminists the way you define them, assuming they really exist and have any power, are a fringe, they're not a majority! Most women are intellectually competent people driven by the same instincts and desires as men, not some evil lodge in their mission to destroy mankind!

I agree with publicduende. Many women in America are an unfortunate combination of consumer culture and feminist dogma (the latter has taken to justifying the former as providing women with more "choices"), and that has put a lot of strain on interpersonal relationships. But the US, UK and other countries where neoliberal ideology is ensconced are going down the crapper because they have become completely corrupt corporatocracies. Public policy is bought and paid for at every level, reform is impossible, and that breeds a cynicism that destroys a society from within more thoroughly than alterations in the sexual constitution.

[publicduende]

This doesn't explain why there are so few women in positions of power, and yet those who manage to make it to the top are absolutely world class. A woman in a position of authority is probably a woman twice as smart as the average counterpart who had to work four times harder to get there.

The reason that women shouldn't vote has nothing to do with their intelligence or competence. It has to do with the fact that men's instincts are designed to support the tribe while women's instincts are designed to support her and her children. Women have no instinctual attachment to the tribe, meaning society or fairness. Women will always vote for their selfish short-term benefit which is feminism, and this inevitably destroys society.

This doesn't make any sense at all. Your anthropological argument might apply to decisions made within a family circle, perhaps a woman's attention to her own children vs a man's attention to his own parents and extended family. But voting is a political (in the Greek sense of "polis", public community) act that has nothing to do with a woman's maternal or family-bound instincts. The reason why US and Western society are in full decline is because the democratic process is broken and rigged, and assuming you're voting a good man all the way to power, he will have to return favours, mingle with the existing party mainstream and will have near-zero opportunity to be heard and get real change to pass. This assuming he is genuine in his ideas, not a wolf in a sheep's clothes like Obama. But we know most of the people you guys vote only want to leverage their position to get rich quick (never heard of the massive insider trading that goes on in both your chambers?) and cement their status.

Feminists the way you define them, assuming they really exist and have any power, are a fringe, they're not a majority! Most women are intellectually competent people driven by the same instincts and desires as men, not some evil lodge in their mission to destroy mankind!

I agree with publicduende. Many women in America are an unfortunate combination of consumer culture and feminist dogma (the latter has taken to justifying the former as providing women with more "choices"), and that has put a lot of strain on interpersonal relationships. But the US, UK and other countries where neoliberal ideology is ensconced are going down the crapper because they have become completely corrupt corporatocracies. Public policy is bought and paid for at every level, reform is impossible, and that breeds a cynicism that destroys a society from within more thoroughly than alterations in the sexual constitution.

That's a much more balanced view, thanks gsjackson. Consumerist culture goes well with women, but men are far from exempted, only the "items of desire" change. Women are now more empowered than they were before, as consumers as well, and that's undoubtedly a good thing, not a bad one. That consumerism is stretched to its limit due to our material take on life and the overabundance of cheap credit, that's the not so good side of the story.

But not all is lost. There are societies that are even more sold to extreme consumerism, think the rich Middle Eastern women flocking luxury malls in Dubai or Kuala Lumpur. The way they will behave towards men has a lot more to do with the view of their role in society, than what they spend and how they spend it. A Saudi wife will be happy not to have voting power and be slapped on her face by her abusive rich husband, but take away her shopping trips and she'll feel annihilated. Latin American women also spend like crazy when they have a chance, but they know they have to cherish their feminine qualities in order to thrive in a reassuredly male-oriented society.

Maybe in 20 years those women will too change, but I wouldn't call that "the rise of feminism", just our rotten version of modernity catching up.

[DevilsAdvocate]

This doesn't explain why there are so few women in positions of power, and yet those who manage to make it to the top are absolutely world class. A woman in a position of authority is probably a woman twice as smart as the average counterpart who had to work four times harder to get there.

The reason that women shouldn't vote has nothing to do with their intelligence or competence. It has to do with the fact that men's instincts are designed to support the tribe while women's instincts are designed to support her and her children. Women have no instinctual attachment to the tribe, meaning society or fairness. Women will always vote for their selfish short-term benefit which is feminism, and this inevitably destroys society.

This doesn't make any sense at all. Your anthropological argument might apply to decisions made within a family circle, perhaps a woman's attention to her own children vs a man's attention to his own parents and extended family. But voting is a political (in the Greek sense of "polis", public community) act that has nothing to do with a woman's maternal or family-bound instincts. The reason why US and Western society are in full decline is because the democratic process is broken and rigged, and assuming you're voting a good man all the way to power, he will have to return favours, mingle with the existing party mainstream and will have near-zero opportunity to be heard and get real change to pass. This assuming he is genuine in his ideas, not a wolf in a sheep's clothes like Obama. But we know most of the people you guys vote only want to leverage their position to get rich quick (never heard of the massive insider trading that goes on in both your chambers?) and cement their status.

Feminists the way you define them, assuming they really exist and have any power, are a fringe, they're not a majority! Most women are intellectually competent people driven by the same instincts and desires as men, not some evil lodge in their mission to destroy mankind!

I agree with publicduende. Many women in America are an unfortunate combination of consumer culture and feminist dogma (the latter has taken to justifying the former as providing women with more "choices"), and that has put a lot of strain on interpersonal relationships. But the US, UK and other countries where neoliberal ideology is ensconced are going down the crapper because they have become completely corrupt corporatocracies. Public policy is bought and paid for at every level, reform is impossible, and that breeds a cynicism that destroys a society from within more thoroughly than alterations in the sexual constitution.

That's a much more balanced view, thanks gsjackson. Consumerist culture goes well with women, but men are far from exempted, only the "items of desire" change. Women are now more empowered than they were before, as consumers as well, and that's undoubtedly a good thing, not a bad one. That consumerism is stretched to its limit due to our material take on life and the overabundance of cheap credit, that's the not so good side of the story.

But not all is lost. There are societies that are even more sold to extreme consumerism, think the rich Middle Eastern women flocking luxury malls in Dubai or Kuala Lumpur. The way they will behave towards men has a lot more to do with the view of their role in society, than what they spend and how they spend it. A Saudi wife will be happy not to have voting power and be slapped on her face by her abusive rich husband, but take away her shopping trips and she'll feel annihilated. Latin American women also spend like crazy when they have a chance, but they know they have to cherish their feminine qualities in order to thrive in a reassuredly male-oriented society.

Maybe in 20 years those women will too change, but I wouldn't call that "the rise of feminism", just our rotten version of modernity catching up.

That's because being from the UK you have been so fagged up for so long now and turned into a sissy boy that you have no clue what is going on within this world, here is feminism destroying the whole world, and like the piece of shit Jew that you are you don't see anything wrong with it, and the reason for that is because you yourself promote feminism, you like feminism, you want women to be bitches and sluts and have abortions and f**k over men, this is what you enjoy and love to see, so you see nothing wrong with it.

And secretly, although you won't admit it, you're a Jew who loves having sex with men, or boys....

You are now exposed Jew boy for who and want you are.....

Signed,

Devils Advocate

[publicduende]

The reason that women shouldn't vote has nothing to do with their intelligence or competence. It has to do with the fact that men's instincts are designed to support the tribe while women's instincts are designed to support her and her children. Women have no instinctual attachment to the tribe, meaning society or fairness. Women will always vote for their selfish short-term benefit which is feminism, and this inevitably destroys society.

This doesn't make any sense at all. Your anthropological argument might apply to decisions made within a family circle, perhaps a woman's attention to her own children vs a man's attention to his own parents and extended family. But voting is a political (in the Greek sense of "polis", public community) act that has nothing to do with a woman's maternal or family-bound instincts. The reason why US and Western society are in full decline is because the democratic process is broken and rigged, and assuming you're voting a good man all the way to power, he will have to return favours, mingle with the existing party mainstream and will have near-zero opportunity to be heard and get real change to pass. This assuming he is genuine in his ideas, not a wolf in a sheep's clothes like Obama. But we know most of the people you guys vote only want to leverage their position to get rich quick (never heard of the massive insider trading that goes on in both your chambers?) and cement their status.

Feminists the way you define them, assuming they really exist and have any power, are a fringe, they're not a majority! Most women are intellectually competent people driven by the same instincts and desires as men, not some evil lodge in their mission to destroy mankind!

I agree with publicduende. Many women in America are an unfortunate combination of consumer culture and feminist dogma (the latter has taken to justifying the former as providing women with more "choices"), and that has put a lot of strain on interpersonal relationships. But the US, UK and other countries where neoliberal ideology is ensconced are going down the crapper because they have become completely corrupt corporatocracies. Public policy is bought and paid for at every level, reform is impossible, and that breeds a cynicism that destroys a society from within more thoroughly than alterations in the sexual constitution.

That's a much more balanced view, thanks gsjackson. Consumerist culture goes well with women, but men are far from exempted, only the "items of desire" change. Women are now more empowered than they were before, as consumers as well, and that's undoubtedly a good thing, not a bad one. That consumerism is stretched to its limit due to our material take on life and the overabundance of cheap credit, that's the not so good side of the story.

But not all is lost. There are societies that are even more sold to extreme consumerism, think the rich Middle Eastern women flocking luxury malls in Dubai or Kuala Lumpur. The way they will behave towards men has a lot more to do with the view of their role in society, than what they spend and how they spend it. A Saudi wife will be happy not to have voting power and be slapped on her face by her abusive rich husband, but take away her shopping trips and she'll feel annihilated. Latin American women also spend like crazy when they have a chance, but they know they have to cherish their feminine qualities in order to thrive in a reassuredly male-oriented society.

Maybe in 20 years those women will too change, but I wouldn't call that "the rise of feminism", just our rotten version of modernity catching up.

That's because being from the UK you have been so fagged up for so long now and turned into a sissy boy that you have no clue what is going on within this world, here is feminism destroying the whole world, and like the piece of shit Jew that you are you don't see anything wrong with it, and the reason for that is because you yourself promote feminism, you like feminism, you want women to be bitches and sluts and have abortions and f**k over men, this is what you enjoy and love to see, so you see nothing wrong with it.

And secretly, although you won't admit it, you're a Jew who loves having sex with men, or boys....

You are now exposed Jew boy for who and want you are.....

Signed,

Devils Advocate

DA you're a pathological case of social paranoia. With so many causes for the shit we're in, you're taking two of the furthest apart, most paranoid points and plotting your own dystopic sci-fi movie. It's neither entertaining nor funny. Grow up to reality, man. There are good and bad men and women everywhere. If you don't know how to deal with bad people, bad women included, that's your problem. None of us is a professional shrink, whom I think you need to see at some point, and we'll be even less inclined to listen and debate with you if all you can come up is blind conspiracy rants that have no other foundations than your paranoias and those of people like Makow.

About my secret inclinations, I make no secret of the fact that I'm inclined to give people like you a good reality kick in the arse when they need it.

[DevilsAdvocate]

This doesn't make any sense at all. Your anthropological argument might apply to decisions made within a family circle, perhaps a woman's attention to her own children vs a man's attention to his own parents and extended family. But voting is a political (in the Greek sense of "polis", public community) act that has nothing to do with a woman's maternal or family-bound instincts. The reason why US and Western society are in full decline is because the democratic process is broken and rigged, and assuming you're voting a good man all the way to power, he will have to return favours, mingle with the existing party mainstream and will have near-zero opportunity to be heard and get real change to pass. This assuming he is genuine in his ideas, not a wolf in a sheep's clothes like Obama. But we know most of the people you guys vote only want to leverage their position to get rich quick (never heard of the massive insider trading that goes on in both your chambers?) and cement their status.

Feminists the way you define them, assuming they really exist and have any power, are a fringe, they're not a majority! Most women are intellectually competent people driven by the same instincts and desires as men, not some evil lodge in their mission to destroy mankind!

I agree with publicduende. Many women in America are an unfortunate combination of consumer culture and feminist dogma (the latter has taken to justifying the former as providing women with more "choices"), and that has put a lot of strain on interpersonal relationships. But the US, UK and other countries where neoliberal ideology is ensconced are going down the crapper because they have become completely corrupt corporatocracies. Public policy is bought and paid for at every level, reform is impossible, and that breeds a cynicism that destroys a society from within more thoroughly than alterations in the sexual constitution.

That's a much more balanced view, thanks gsjackson. Consumerist culture goes well with women, but men are far from exempted, only the "items of desire" change. Women are now more empowered than they were before, as consumers as well, and that's undoubtedly a good thing, not a bad one. That consumerism is stretched to its limit due to our material take on life and the overabundance of cheap credit, that's the not so good side of the story.

But not all is lost. There are societies that are even more sold to extreme consumerism, think the rich Middle Eastern women flocking luxury malls in Dubai or Kuala Lumpur. The way they will behave towards men has a lot more to do with the view of their role in society, than what they spend and how they spend it. A Saudi wife will be happy not to have voting power and be slapped on her face by her abusive rich husband, but take away her shopping trips and she'll feel annihilated. Latin American women also spend like crazy when they have a chance, but they know they have to cherish their feminine qualities in order to thrive in a reassuredly male-oriented society.

Maybe in 20 years those women will too change, but I wouldn't call that "the rise of feminism", just our rotten version of modernity catching up.

That's because being from the UK you have been so fagged up for so long now and turned into a sissy boy that you have no clue what is going on within this world, here is feminism destroying the whole world, and like the piece of shit Jew that you are you don't see anything wrong with it, and the reason for that is because you yourself promote feminism, you like feminism, you want women to be bitches and sluts and have abortions and f**k over men, this is what you enjoy and love to see, so you see nothing wrong with it.

And secretly, although you won't admit it, you're a Jew who loves having sex with men, or boys....

You are now exposed Jew boy for who and want you are.....

Signed,

Devils Advocate

OK, that's where people like you run out of arguments and have no ammo left than their own saliva.

1) I'm not a Jew.
2) I'm not a feminist.
3) Russian ladies are some of the coldest, tit-for-tat materialistic individuals on the planet. With an attitude like that, good luck getting your Russian prospect past her second date with you.
4) And ultimately, good luck with finding a woman who you will bear existential grudges against and despise as an inferior being, and have her as your life companion in a post-collapse, survival mode scenario.

And make sure you come onto this forum and slowly try to brainwash people that feminism isn't a problem and that feminism is a good thing for women and society. I realize you love feminism and support it and feel it's a really good thing for everybody but you have to realize Jew boy that people are going to be able to see through you and what your agenda really is. Sure you can lie and say you're not a Jew, you Jews are good at that because you know how you are hated all around the world, and you don't want to be associated with being a Jew and promoting feminism, because you know that's what all you Jews do, because you promote everything that destroys society because that's who and what you people are, destroyers and users of everything good, you are all parasites living off the good work of others.

I can see right through you Jew boy.....

And yes, I'm a German, the only people on this planet who truly know what you f***ing Jews are....

Signed,

Devils Advocate

[publicduende]

I agree with publicduende. Many women in America are an unfortunate combination of consumer culture and feminist dogma (the latter has taken to justifying the former as providing women with more "choices"), and that has put a lot of strain on interpersonal relationships. But the US, UK and other countries where neoliberal ideology is ensconced are going down the crapper because they have become completely corrupt corporatocracies. Public policy is bought and paid for at every level, reform is impossible, and that breeds a cynicism that destroys a society from within more thoroughly than alterations in the sexual constitution.

That's a much more balanced view, thanks gsjackson. Consumerist culture goes well with women, but men are far from exempted, only the "items of desire" change. Women are now more empowered than they were before, as consumers as well, and that's undoubtedly a good thing, not a bad one. That consumerism is stretched to its limit due to our material take on life and the overabundance of cheap credit, that's the not so good side of the story.

But not all is lost. There are societies that are even more sold to extreme consumerism, think the rich Middle Eastern women flocking luxury malls in Dubai or Kuala Lumpur. The way they will behave towards men has a lot more to do with the view of their role in society, than what they spend and how they spend it. A Saudi wife will be happy not to have voting power and be slapped on her face by her abusive rich husband, but take away her shopping trips and she'll feel annihilated. Latin American women also spend like crazy when they have a chance, but they know they have to cherish their feminine qualities in order to thrive in a reassuredly male-oriented society.

Maybe in 20 years those women will too change, but I wouldn't call that "the rise of feminism", just our rotten version of modernity catching up.

That's because being from the UK you have been so fagged up for so long now and turned into a sissy boy that you have no clue what is going on within this world, here is feminism destroying the whole world, and like the piece of shit Jew that you are you don't see anything wrong with it, and the reason for that is because you yourself promote feminism, you like feminism, you want women to be bitches and sluts and have abortions and f**k over men, this is what you enjoy and love to see, so you see nothing wrong with it.

And secretly, although you won't admit it, you're a Jew who loves having sex with men, or boys....

You are now exposed Jew boy for who and want you are.....

Signed,

Devils Advocate

OK, that's where people like you run out of arguments and have no ammo left than their own saliva.

1) I'm not a Jew.
2) I'm not a feminist.
3) Russian ladies are some of the coldest, tit-for-tat materialistic individuals on the planet. With an attitude like that, good luck getting your Russian prospect past her second date with you.
4) And ultimately, good luck with finding a woman who you will bear existential grudges against and despise as an inferior being, and have her as your life companion in a post-collapse, survival mode scenario.

And make sure you come onto this forum and slowly try to brainwash people that feminism isn't a problem and that feminism is a good thing for women and society. I realize you love feminism and support it and feel it's a really good thing for everybody but you have to realize Jew boy that people are going to be able to see through you and what your agenda really is. Sure you can lie and say you're not a Jew, you Jews are good at that because you know how you are hated all around the world, and you don't want to be associated with being a Jew and promoting feminism, because you know that's what all you Jews do, because you promote everything that destroys society because that's who and what you people are, destroyers and users of everything good, you are all parasites living off the good work of others.

I can see right through you Jew boy.....

And yes, I'm a German, the only people on this planet who truly know what you f***ing Jews are....

Signed,

Devils Advocate

Boy, you're lucky I'm Italian and I've known far better Germans than you. You probably only have yourself to blame, for the sorry state your mind is in.

[fschmidt]

Most women are intellectually competent people driven by the same instincts and desires as men

This is sort of the liberal equivalent to believing that the earth is flat. Actually I am not being entirely fair to the flat-earthers because realizing that the earth is round requires some understanding of science, one can't just see this fact with one's own eyes. But seeing that men and women have different instincts and desires is completely obvious to anyone who opens their eyes and has been known throughout history. When I think of all the absurd beliefs that people have held through history, I cannot think of one that is more absurd than that men and women have the same instincts and desires.

[fschmidt]

That's because being from the UK you have been so fagged up for so long now and turned into a sissy boy that you have no clue what is going on within this world, here is feminism destroying the whole world, and like the piece of shit Jew that you are you don't see anything wrong with it, and the reason for that is because you yourself promote feminism, you like feminism, you want women to be bitches and sluts and have abortions and f**k over men, this is what you enjoy and love to see, so you see nothing wrong with it.

And secretly, although you won't admit it, you're a Jew who loves having sex with men, or boys....

You are now exposed Jew boy for who and want you are.....

Signed,

Devils Advocate

DevilsAdvocate, I'm confused. I'm a Jew and I hate feminism. So I don't get the connection you are making here.

[DevilsAdvocate]

That's because being from the UK you have been so fagged up for so long now and turned into a sissy boy that you have no clue what is going on within this world, here is feminism destroying the whole world, and like the piece of shit Jew that you are you don't see anything wrong with it, and the reason for that is because you yourself promote feminism, you like feminism, you want women to be bitches and sluts and have abortions and f**k over men, this is what you enjoy and love to see, so you see nothing wrong with it.

And secretly, although you won't admit it, you're a Jew who loves having sex with men, or boys....

You are now exposed Jew boy for who and want you are.....

Signed,

Devils Advocate

DevilsAdvocate, I'm confused. I'm a Jew and I hate feminism. So I don't get the connection you are making here.

That's a good thing, stand up and be counted.....

I'm a German and if the Germans started supporting or doing something that was wrong I would call the out on it, no problem at all.

When you see the Jew media promoting feminism as a Jew you need to call them out on it....

By doing this you will gain the respect of us Gentiles

These people have screwed the USA and they are exporting this to the rest of the world as fast as they can, destroying the natural order of things on purpose and turning men into pigs and low class retards who do what women tell them to do.....

So I'm glad you are taking a stand for what is right.....

Signed,

Devils Advocate

[tom]

Watch the decline of the west
http://www.kaltura.com/index.php/kwidge ... 1_1ve76ygo

[fschmidt]

Watch the decline of the west
http://www.kaltura.com/index.php/kwidge ... 1_1ve76ygo

Maybe you could summarize this for us. These academics are so long winded.

The economic problem is so simple and obvious, but no one in the media is allowed to tell the truth. The problem is quite simply that the rich are stealing from the middle class with the help of the government. This is done through taxes, through inflation, and through government banks like the Fed. The solution is also trivial, cut off government support for the bankers and let the whole financial system collapse and start over without these parasites.

But much more important is the reason that the rich can steal with impunity. This is because of liberalism and feminism which destroyed the sense of morality in the people. Throughout history, the rich have stolen from the people. What makes a society successful is that after a theft like this, the people have moral outrage and strike back. For example in the 1800s, Americans were outraged by the monopolies and elected Woodrow Wilson who broke them up. Today, Americans have no moral spirit because it was destroyed by liberalism and feminism, so the bankers will continue stealing the wealth of the world until the whole rotten system collapses.

[fschmidt]

That's a good thing, stand up and be counted.....

I'm a German and if the Germans started supporting or doing something that was wrong I would call the out on it, no problem at all.

When you see the Jew media promoting feminism as a Jew you need to call them out on it....

By doing this you will gain the respect of us Gentiles

These people have screwed the USA and they are exporting this to the rest of the world as fast as they can, destroying the natural order of things on purpose and turning men into pigs and low class retards who do what women tell them to do.....

So I'm glad you are taking a stand for what is right.....

Signed,

Devils Advocate

I want to be counted, but I don't particularly identify with my ethnicity, I would rather be counted as an individual. In case you aren't familiar with Judaism, there are basically 3 types of ethnic Jews. There are the Orthodox who are conservative and strongly anti-feminist. They have no desire to be counted or even to be considered by Gentiles. They are basically separatists. The second type is the liberal Jew. This includes Reform Judaism and "Conservative" Judaism. These are the people you are probably thinking of when you think about Jews. They want to be heard and are strongly pro-feminist and liberal. They are hopeless. The Orthodox Jews don't care much about these liberal Jews because the Orthodox know that with the liberal Jewish rate of intermarriage, they will disappear from Judaism in a few generations. And lastly, there are wholly assimilated Jews who are only ethnically Jewish but otherwise are no different from a Gentile. This is my category.

[DevilsAdvocate]

That's a good thing, stand up and be counted.....

I'm a German and if the Germans started supporting or doing something that was wrong I would call the out on it, no problem at all.

When you see the Jew media promoting feminism as a Jew you need to call them out on it....

By doing this you will gain the respect of us Gentiles

These people have screwed the USA and they are exporting this to the rest of the world as fast as they can, destroying the natural order of things on purpose and turning men into pigs and low class retards who do what women tell them to do.....

So I'm glad you are taking a stand for what is right.....

Signed,

Devils Advocate

I want to be counted, but I don't particularly identify with my ethnicity, I would rather be counted as an individual. In case you aren't familiar with Judaism, there are basically 3 types of ethnic Jews. There are the Orthodox who are conservative and strongly anti-feminist. They have no desire to be counted or even to be considered by Gentiles. They are basically separatists. The second type is the liberal Jew. This includes Reform Judaism and "Conservative" Judaism. These are the people you are probably thinking of when you think about Jews. They want to be heard and are strongly pro-feminist and liberal. They are hopeless. The Orthodox Jews don't care much about these liberal Jews because the Orthodox know that with the liberal Jewish rate of intermarriage, they will disappear from Judaism in a few generations. And lastly, there are wholly assimilated Jews who are only ethnically Jewish but otherwise are no different from a Gentile. This is my category.

If you descend from Jacob then you are a Jew, doesn't matter which tribe you come from....

And if you are a Jew, then you posses some special type of DNA, or since you are a Jew from your mother, then it's possible that a female Jew is somehow having a different chemical or biological function different from a Gentile and thus creating a person with certain characteristics that allow for a broader form of intelligence, a higher form if you will, a broader understanding, a global type of thought process for instance. And also a drive much higher in ambition than a Gentile, a mover and shaker, a producer, a person who will make things happen and be successful at it. Or somebody who achieves success at any and all levels of society....

Clearly there is something going on at a biological level during the growth and birth of a Jew....

It is by no accident that this is occurring, it is being done so and by the living God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.....

Now the only question is for all Jews, and indeed all people on planet earth, which side do you choose? God's side? Or Satan's side?

And can Satan convince you that he is God?

Can he use logic on you and convince you that God is really a bad person who is unfair and going to put you into Hell because he is a serious asshole?

This is everyone's test and it's coming sooner than you may think....

At least that's what I think....

Signed,

Devils Advocate

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Most women are intellectually competent people driven by the same instincts and desires as men

This is sort of the liberal equivalent to believing that the earth is flat. Actually I am not being entirely fair to the flat-earthers because realizing that the earth is round requires some understanding of science, one can't just see this fact with one's own eyes. But seeing that men and women have different instincts and desires is completely obvious to anyone who opens their eyes and has been known throughout history. When I think of all the absurd beliefs that people have held through history, I cannot think of one that is more absurd than that men and women have the same instincts and desires.

Look, I see where you're coming from. It's difficult to accept such a statement at face value. Unfortunately, or fortunately for me, by my experiences with women, starting with my family (my Mom and a couple of aunties I'm really close to), my female friends, my ex girlfriends, and then my wife, I just can't see so much of a difference.

One thing to consider is that our society has been wildly successful in flattening the behavioural differences between men and women, to the point that we ultimately come pre-packaged in socially acceptable personas: the Consumer, the Career Man/Woman, the Good Parent, etc. Take the first one, the Consumer. Yes we make lots of fuss about women whining about that new pair of shoes and queuing up to buy cheaps replica of a Cavalli dress from 5 AM in the morning. Yet I've seen the male specimen doing exactly the same with a new iPhone, or a new videogame console. We have become a unisex culture, exhibiting the same herd patterns whether it comes to shopping, making a career move or planning for a child. In some cases, the things we desire and/or buy are different. How we get to them is not.

About instinct and desires, yes of course deep down women will have some of their biological instincts intact: the desire of protection for their own sake and that of their offspring, for example. Yet when it comes to our social, public identities, I really don't see so much of a difference anymore. Men can be career minded, materialistic, aggressive, assertive, or not. Women can be are career minded, materialistic, aggressive, assertive, or not. Some men have a sense of entitlement and want to impose this on their partner. Same for many women. Men can be calculating b*stards, always aiming at the best they can get given their status. Women can, too. Willing or nilling, this is the level of gender equality we have built for ourselves. It's not a conspiracy, it's just the product of social evolution, sometimes the result of painful political and cultural struggles.

So what I have a problem accepting is when a man says that some of these instincts and desires and perfectly acceptable when exercised by a male, and are the sign of a rotten state of things when they are found in a woman. I have a problem with those who want to affirm their own male identity by negating the female one.

Let me give you an example. Most of you guys complain about Anglosphere women being calculating b*tches who use their perceived status as a "protected species" (as well as their assets) as a leverage to obtain what they desire: say, material possessions that will give them an idea of success and stability. Indeed, one of the main themes of this forum is that of travelling to second and third world countries to...leverage your status as first world men to obtain sexual gratification and the perception of being wildly sucessful with the ladies. In this case, the desire of giving oneself gratification at the expense of the other sex is quite similar, even though the object of desire is different. If a woman dares talk about desiring a ripped male model, maybe one these Olympic swimmers on display, we will immediately dismiss them as superficial sluts. Yet, on this forum I have seen a lot of men pontificating on their holy desire for a Russian or Asian goddess with perfect skin, cute face and big boobs. Not saying our desires aren't legitimate, only that it's pointless to find a woman doing the same absolutely reprehensible and blame the Zionists or the NWO.

Another one: I see lots of complaining about good looking girls looking for impossible heights of male perfection on online dating sites. And yet I remember trying to convince one of you guys to learn to appreciate an average-looking woman for her personality, and being told that no, we can't settle for anything less than the exact same female equivalent to what those hotties have (or may have) in mind.

Man let's face it: gender equality is a good thing. We men still have a massive edge in so many aspects of our public life, from employment to culture and arts. Women know full well they have to be twice as smart and work a lot harder to get what men think is theirs by birth right, or out of some obscure natural law.