hypermak wrote: ↑
January 18th, 2020, 11:22 pm
I read your "gf allowance" manifesto a while ago and I am still trying to wrap my head around it. You are basically saying that, by giving her a monthly allowance, a girl whose market value is above yours will go from being undecided to enthusiastic.
Absolutely incorrect. A girlfriend allowance is for someone you are already dating and it just sweetens the pot as an incentive for her to remain well-behaved, loyal, and WITH you. She has ALREADY decided to be with you.
What if the girl has too high a market value and used to going with men way richer than you?
Well, statistically-speaking, 99% of men in the world (90% of the men in Western countries) would not be richer than me so that is unlikely. But on the oft chance that they are, most of them are LOATHE to give a girl such an allowance because they feel just the way you do. That works very much in my favor.
What if she pushes her "allowance value" to above what you can afford? What if she gets a better deal with anyone else and starts shadowing you?
A girl you are dating accepts an allowance as a gift. A prostitute demands money or a price and that is a different concept. Sugar babies are in between because there is an understanding of some financial inducement from the beginning, but if your game is tight, the cost can be as low as dinner and outings on me once a week, or 100 to 300 dollars a month to help with school or her bills. I won't pay more than that because I don't have to, at least YET.
All girls eventually want MORE. When that happens you simply say no. Most just say, "Well I just had to ask." A few will sulk to guilt you for a few minutes, then drop it, and theoretically they could dump you but that has not happened to me. I am the dumper when an allowance is involved.
Conversely, if you are every bit the confident and charming men you say you are and the girl is just a bit undecided whether to date you or not, what if you put her on the allowance only to realise later on that she would have wanted to be with you anyway, perhaps in exchange for just some sporadic gifts?
Charming is a subjective thing. Confident I am, but I get rejected at times too, especially with the caliber and young age I go after. It is just part of the game. But where the heck are you getting that they are "undecided?" A girl who is undecided about dating me gets "nexted." Undecided means soft rejection. I am talking about girls who ALREADY like you and agree to date you.
What you propose is just sugar daddying under another name.
Not quite, I have another thread on Sugar Daddying. It is slightly different in that SB girls are looking for guys who can help them financially from the outset and you start dating with that understanding. Sugar babies often grow to like you after spending time with you and money usually becomes a non-issue because they want to be with you anyhow. I have had Sugar Babies and later made them my girlfriends and put them on a small allowance.
What's the difference between this and sugar daddying proper? Sugar dads are affluent people who want to enjoy girls above their punch. Sugar dads do contribute to keeping their sugar babes hooked to a lifestyle of plush shopping, top cosmetics and sophisticated experiences. Most sugar dads are not in denial about the fact that this is not a real relationship, it is just a tis-for-tat arrangement. The moment the cash flows will stop, so will the sex, the attention and the "love", if there's any.
Too narrow a view of Sugar Daddies. Not all are affluent, and not all are lavish and give shopping sprees and yacht trips. I only select clean-cut, university students who are just appreciate of a little extra help and masculine guidance and attention. Older, jaded, and scheming gold diggers completely repel me. I choose girls next door who must by books, pay lab fees, or save for a class trip. By the way, giving such girls ATTENTION is often more valuable than the little money I provide.
Do not forget that young girls without fathers or without masculine fathers learn from a archetypal man. I have had several such younger girls get married to the next man they date after me. They sometimes simply crave the deprogramming of feminist mindset that they deep down don't agree with.
You might want to look up Briffault's Law. I base my opinions on that and I have found it to be very accurate. But the same can be said of any relationship, if the benefit she is receiving ceases, she's out and rightfully so.
In your approach, you think your chosen "gf" won't feel free enough to have sex with other Chads and daddies whenever she pleases, while using your money? Once the novelty effect is gone, you think she won't be looking for younger, better looking, fitter, richer men and start making excuses on WhatsApp about not being able to see you?
In America and the West, for sure that is a likelihood. But not in the traditional countries I frequent, no way. Also, I date a variety of younger, better looking, fitter girls all the time too so it would be only fair if they dated others. I don't care since I do it too.
After all, by giving her an allowance, she will have learned what her "base price" is. If she is not into this kind of life already, you will have introduced her to sugar dad world. As she won't be a saint, soon enough she will try to upgrade and might well trade you in for somone closer to her physical attraction or personality match standards.
Nope. The term does not even get discussed. When I am with a girl and say, "You have not found a job yet? I know you need some help while you are taking classes, so use this ($100) for what you need. If you remain on my good side, I'll give you something each month." The girls often jump for joy, hug and kiss me like I am Santa Claus on Christmas, and behave like I am their hero for life. There is not stigma at all to a girl getting help making ends meet to ease her life. Sugar daddy term is a Western invention to stigmatize it away. But Eastern Europeans call it "sponsoring," and only especially lucky girls get those.
But more than money, take a girl to the dentist when her tooth aches, or to the clinic when she feels ill, or to the shoe shop when she needs winter boots. These are the inexpensive ways to REALLY get a girl to fall for you. Trust me on that!!!!
A girl last summer was having trouble seeing her computer screen. I asked her how old her glasses were and she said 4 years old. I was shocked and dragged her to the optician. She had a new lease on life would was extremely grateful and almost awestruck after that. It was not about the money, but about "Taking care of her" as she put it.
Look, many Filipinas are hot but desperate and materialistic. I believe, so are many women from Ukraine or Mother Russia. Your "gf allowance" might work to some extent and bring back the goods you desire. In fact I do see quite a few Chinese or Korean businessmen who do exactly that. They are in Manila a few times a year and have these young hotties all wrapped around them like snakes. These girls live in the condos where these guys live while here, so get free accommodation. They surely get a monthly allowance to live the good life and get the "relationship" going.
That is a "Kept Woman" or Mistress for married guys. I don't do that because no woman is worth my financing her entire lifestyle. 100 to 300 dollars max a month because less is sometimes more.
I also know, for a fact, these girls bring their boyfriends, studdy young Filipinos or foreigners, up to the flats to have fun with them. Not to brag, but I had sex with 3 of them. One of them saw me and asked a friend for my phone number. We spent a few nights and mornings together and we are still seeing each other. And believe me, the few times they talked about their daddies to me, it surely wasn't to praise them. Quite the opposite, I ended up feeling sorry for the very high price these people have to pay just to be with them a few weeks a year.
Those are prostitutes or "semi-pros" which explains why you have such a bias against an allowance. But what you don't see are girls at my beck and call, being apologetic, and begging me not to leave them when I want to move on. They also also love when I visit their countries and plead with me to come back. It is not about the money, because money can be wired. It is about security, a warm body, a Western man of means and several other important things for them.
Which is why I think your idea that you're acting as a mature, confident father figure who enriches their lives, as quite delusional.
I am no one's father, but sometimes fatherless girls ASSIGN me that role. If it makes them happy, so be it. I don't relate to these girls as a father, but just a strong, knowledgeable, successful, man of means so they like that. I have had girls tell me something that I told them a decade before and that it changed their lives. To me, I was just being me and imparting information, but to a young girl who is struggling to make sense of life, my life experience can illuminate a lot for them. I prefer being the swashbuckling foreigner who does what he wants whenever he wants unlike local men, not a father figure which has incestuous undertones.
I can't speak for everyone else on this forum but, as far as I am concerned, I am nowhere near as poor as you think. I might end up having to sugar daddy a girl if I am still alone in my 50s and absolutely need those fresh legs, that young smooth face, those steady breasts and I don't care much about the poker face she makes every time she meets me and we have sex.
I never care about what other men have or earn. But I will say there are only two kinds of men in this world, men who have to work for their income, and men who don't because their wealth works to generate income FOR THEM while they sleep.
But to your other point, I am UNAPOLOGETIC about what works for me in life. If that offends people who disapprove, great, because I find that humorous. Almost everything I do in life has a set of people who don't approve. Some of those people have a problem with my choice of YOUNG, ATTRACTIVE, and EUROPEAN women. But without exception, those are people whose life circumstances suck compared to mine so I see it for what it is worth and keep doing what makes ME happy.
So you do you, and I will go on happily being what you call "grandpa." At your age, you don't yet realize that life for a single man gets continues to get BETTER over time. I can't wait for 10 years to pass so my wealth doubles and I can do even more and move even more mountains. And when the time comes in about 25 years that health begins to wane, I will settle down where I so choose and reflect on the great, wild ride I had. I am not afraid of death in any way shape or form (that is a Western fear due to their religions) and I look very much look forward to what happens after earthly life. So be careful in TRYING shaming people that are older than you. It only tends to reflect how YOU are afraid or concerned about growing old. If you are trying to shame an older, single man about living unmarried and free of family obligations, it only tends to reflect that YOU are afraid of living in that manner. I am living the life I designed and planned for myself DECADES ago, and it has worked out better than I ever imagined.