Interesting Roosh thread, now pretty much agreeing with HA

[droid]

http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-34915-page-5.html

"So not only do you have to be a clown, but the audience you're entertaining is hypersensitive children who are one step away from crying to mom and dad because they didn't like your performance."

"You really have to be the entertaining clown that elicits positive feelings and lustful emotions, or else the approach is dead."


These guys know the truth, yet still claim there is "game".

[zboy1]

Well, I'm glad his agreeing with us on HA--since we've been saying the same things for years now...

I think the rest of the sheep in America is starting to wake-up, too (if ever so slightly...).

[green1976]

Well now he states that the "game" is not valuable in the US and one should rather move outside.
I'm not against what they call "game"if it is used in countries where women have not being transformed to zombie machine.
If they want to seduce women this way..why not?
Anyway in some case you can use it but most of the time,females who are not contaminated don't need game at all.

I was quit amused to see all those guys bragging how they still got laid in the states so there is no need to go abroad but now the final thinking is that the US is doomed and no game will overcome that.
Too much hassle for a ridiculous outcome.

You can't win in the US,game or not,you always loose so don't bring the exception because it is one.

[droid]

I was quit amused to see all those guys bragging how they still got laid in the states so there is no need to go abroad but now the final thinking is that the US is doomed and no game will overcome that.
Too much hassle for a ridiculous outcome.

Exactly.
Now my only concern is that crowd going abroad and ruining everything. Picture some dude saying "hi, I'm hardrive, your feet are too big" and doing some semi-professional magic tricks with hand gesticulations...

[publicduende]

PUA has always been a self-referential, delusional fraud.

The reason why I hold Winston in more respect than clowns like Roosh and his crowd: they are some of most intellectual dishonest people around. They lie about everything: the girls they bang, their experiences, their feelings. It's for its 99.9% a life (and a lifestyle) built on tireless posing and speculating without factual experience, as well as bragging about thigs that never happened if not in their minds.

And of course, more and more of them try to jump the fence and become "paid agents": coaches, writers, sellers. Of course they are now starting to realise that one can only monetise on bullshit so far he has an endless pool of gullible boys who prefer to believe the dreamy narrative rather than face reality, accept realistic expectation and work on truly improving themselves.

[gsjackson]

PUA has always been a self-referential, delusional fraud.

The reason why I hold Winston in more respect than clowns like Roosh and his crowd: they are some of most intellectual dishonest people around. They lie about everything: the girls they bang, their experiences, their feelings. It's for its 99.9% a life (and a lifestyle) built on tireless posing and speculating without factual experience, as well as bragging about thigs that never happened if not in their minds.

And of course, more and more of them try to jump the fence and become "paid agents": coaches, writers, sellers. Of course they are now starting to realise that one can only monetise on bullshit so far he has an endless pool of gullible boys who prefer to believe the dreamy narrative rather than face reality, accept realistic expectation and work on truly improving themselves.

Self-referential and self-reputational. The most "respected" posters there -- the alpha dogs, as it were -- are the ones who boast the most and proclaim themselves to be elite players. People who believe over-the-top self-marketing of others ...... well, yeah, I guess "gullible boys," to say the least. Not sure there isn't an endless pool of the gullible, though. It's what America is built on.

[Novem]

http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-34915-page-5.html

"So not only do you have to be a clown, but the audience you're entertaining is hypersensitive children who are one step away from crying to mom and dad because they didn't like your performance."

"You really have to be the entertaining clown that elicits positive feelings and lustful emotions, or else the approach is dead."


These guys know the truth, yet still claim there is "game".

American females have priced themselves out of the market. Roosh's quote sums up a huge problem that comes up when you try to talk to your average female in this part of the world. If you aren't nearly flawless you are going home in defeat.

"Game" is like a religion to these guys so they are going to cling to, practice, and preach it to anyone willing to listen to their clap trap. The thing that sucks here is that they are going to pollute the rest of the world with their doctrine and simultaneously give foreigners looking for legit relationships a bad reputation.

[droid]

Some 'sausagefest' evidence from that thread. I've even seen worse in Miami, truly disgusting.
These really show what I've tried to convey before.

http://www.rooshvforum.com/attachment.php?aid=18523

[ntm1972]

Roosh posted this five days ago:

On Saturday night I was called the following by four women:

-shady (girl 1)
-douchebag (girl 2)
-creep (girl 2)
-disrespectful (girl 3, girl 4)
-asshole (girl 3)
-dick (girl 4)
-weird (girl 2)
-"I don't like you" (girl 2)

One girl from the above gave me her number and the other took me to her place.

What a bizarro world for girls to call you names but actually like you.

http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-34915 ... #pid719249

The only motivation I see here is to keep it in your pants when it comes to dealing with American women.

Roosh revealed later that it was girl #2 who took him home. So, let's see - one of the masters of "game" puts up with being called a douchebag, a creep, and "weird", and further being told "I don't like you", in order to get inside some crotch that's been around the world and back again....

Just how little self-respect do you have to have to put up with such shit in order to get some p***y?

I've never had any use for "game", I've done just fine without it. But after reading the above, I wonder whether it's possible to have less than zero use for it.

[publicduende]

So, let's see - one of the masters of "game" puts up with being called a douchebag, a creep, and "weird", and further being told "I don't like you", in order to get inside some crotch that's been around the world and back again....

Just how little self-respect do you have to have to put up with such shit in order to get some p***y?

That, or the far more plausible scenario, as it happens a lot with the PUA crowd, that the whole thing only happened in his mind. Yet he likes to share it to the whole wide world as some sort of universal insight.

[ntm1972]

So, let's see - one of the masters of "game" puts up with being called a douchebag, a creep, and "weird", and further being told "I don't like you", in order to get inside some crotch that's been around the world and back again....

Just how little self-respect do you have to have to put up with such shit in order to get some p***y?

That, or the far more plausible scenario, as it happens a lot with the PUA crowd, that the whole thing only happened in his mind. Yet he likes to share it to the whole wide world as some sort of universal insight.

There is a certain fantastic element to much of PUA writing. Not "fantastic" in the informal sense, of course: The writing styles and story contents are both pedestrian.

The guys who are really "fclosing", to use the PUA term, don't talk about it. They don't have to.

[publicduende]

The guys who are really "fclosing", to use the PUA term, don't talk about it. They don't have to.

I don't know what "fclosing" stands for, a closure with a f**k I would imagine, but those guys who are really good at that don't even have an interest in bragging it, let alone teaching it.

[ntm1972]

The guys who are really "fclosing", to use the PUA term, don't talk about it. They don't have to.

I don't know what "fclosing" stands for, a closure with a f**k I would imagine, but those guys who are really good at that don't even have an interest in bragging it, let alone teaching it.

Your guess about the definition is correct.

And yes, actions speak louder than words.

[Jester]

Roosh posted this five days ago:

On Saturday night I was called the following by four women:

-shady (girl 1)
-douchebag (girl 2)
-creep (girl 2)
-disrespectful (girl 3, girl 4)
-asshole (girl 3)
-dick (girl 4)
-weird (girl 2)
-"I don't like you" (girl 2)

One girl from the above gave me her number and the other took me to her place.

What a bizarro world for girls to call you names but actually like you.

http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-34915 ... #pid719249

The only motivation I see here is to keep it in your pants when it comes to dealing with American women.

Roosh revealed later that it was girl #2 who took him home. So, let's see - one of the masters of "game" puts up with being called a douchebag, a creep, and "weird", and further being told "I don't like you", in order to get inside some crotch that's been around the world and back again....

Just how little self-respect do you have to have to put up with such shit in order to get some p***y?

I've never had any use for "game", I've done just fine without it. But after reading the above, I wonder whether it's possible to have less than zero use for it.

+1

[Rocky Top]

It's amazing and quite amusing to see how a PUA's soul can be crushed in less than 30 days in the US... to the point where they begin to see that "game" is just a way of fooling themselves into thinking they've really found the Holy Grail.