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Could someone explain the covaids thinking?

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I mean, in what world does it make sense to take the lethal covaids “vaccine”? I am not trying to convince anyone of anything here. I am just trying to understand the thinking of covaids jab supporters. We know that covaids, if it exists, is just the common cold. That is not disputed. We know that the “vaccines” are experimental and don’t even prevent you from getting covaids, if it exists. That is not disputed. So in the best case scenario, you are supposedly slightly reducing the known minimal risk of dying from coviads a little bit in exchange for assuming the unknown risk from the experimental gene therapy jab, which based on animal testing seems disastrous. This doesn’t make any sense.

Moreover, when you try to discuss the issue with people, it seems like it is an article of their religious faith they think you are attacking. They can’t seem to work though the facts of the matter and present a cogent argument. I’m just trying to understand the thinking. If you are a non-moronic covaids jab supporter, perhaps you could help me.


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FSmihdt posted a while back the real problem with humanity and it really is stupidity.
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Moretorque wrote:
July 19th, 2021, 7:12 am
FSmihdt posted a while back the real problem with humanity and it really is stupidity.
I want to understand the nature of their stupidity.
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Cornfed wrote:
July 19th, 2021, 9:25 am
Moretorque wrote:
July 19th, 2021, 7:12 am
FSmihdt posted a while back the real problem with humanity and it really is stupidity.
I want to understand the nature of their stupidity.
Extreme credulity, paralyzing fear of truth, need to be told what to do to get back into their comfort zones, and the need to be part of a large majority. Am I missing any elements?
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Maybe Tertullian has the answer:

"It is to be believed because it is absurd."

"Let our “seeking,” therefore, be in that which is our own [teaching], and from those who are our own, and concerning that which is our own – that and only that … can become an object of inquiry without impairing the rule of faith."

"It is better for you to remain in ignorance, lest you should come to know what you ought not, because you have [already] acquired the knowledge of what you ought to know…. To know nothing in opposition to the rule [of faith] is to know all things."

"the absurd is precisely the object of faith, and only that can be believed…."

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Cornfed wrote:
July 19th, 2021, 12:33 am
I mean, in what world does it make sense to take the lethal covaids “vaccine”? I am not trying to convince anyone of anything here. I am just trying to understand the thinking of covaids jab supporters. We know that covaids, if it exists, is just the common cold. That is not disputed.
The common cold may be a corona virus, and COVID-19 may be a corona virus, but that does not make COVID-19 the common cold. I know a man who works in the hospital in a heart and lung technician type role. He is not an MD, but has a master's degree in that niche field. Based on what he says, it acts like a very severe version of the flu and is much more likely to result in pneumonia in both lungs than the flu. There also seems to be a higher chance of residual damage.

There are people getting sick. That doesn't mean there is no hype. There seem to be inflated numbers, deaths attributed to COVID-19 that probably should be attributed to other diseases, etc. The vast majority of people who get it recover. People die from the flu, too. This one is more likely to kill than the regular flu, but it is similar to the flu none-the-less.
We know that the “vaccines” are experimental and don’t even prevent you from getting covaids, if it exists. That is not disputed. So in the best case scenario, you are supposedly slightly reducing the known minimal risk of dying from coviads a little bit in exchange for assuming the unknown risk from the experimental gene therapy jab, which based on animal testing seems disastrous. This doesn’t make any sense.
My understanding is this new kind of vaccine hijacks cells and temporarily turns them into RNA factories, not DNA factories-- so not genes...another part of the cell. If what is put out there on the Internet is true. But I have read it has not been shown whether the little parts of virus it makes can cross into the brain or not. They did rush this stuff through.

So I have not gotten the shot. Neither has anyone in my immediate family. My mom has. My dad has not even though he is older. He is the type to avoid medications. We do not plan to get the shot. I hope things settle down in another year or so and no nations make permanent bans on travel without the shot.
Moreover, when you try to discuss the issue with people, it seems like it is an article of their religious faith they think you are attacking. They can’t seem to work though the facts of the matter and present a cogent argument. I’m just trying to understand the thinking. If you are a non-moronic covaids jab supporter, perhaps you could help me.
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My impression of the thinking is that the covaids is some kind of mystical curse which is very bad to have, even if you can't articulate the reason why. Therefore you have to do whatever it takes to avoid getting it or mitigate it, even if you die in the process. Very strange. And this seemingly can't be discussed. I had a somewhat reasonable discussion with one person who lived here who seemed to know what was happening but came to the mainstream conclusion even though he couldn't articulate why. I seemed to anger witnesses to the conversation. Yesterday my landlady said she was getting the jab. Because I like her I said she shouldn't, but it was immediately apparent that further discussion was ill advised and we agreed to disagree. She probably thinks of me as some kind of heretic, even though she probably realises I was well intentioned.
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I talked to mainstream people. They claim that Covid damages your lungs even if you recover from it. And that a lot of people have died from it. Even if it's 00.01 percent. Even if that's true it still seems overblown. All based on fear. But the strange thing is even very rational and intelligent people think Covid is a big deal and want the vaccine, as Cornfed said. That's odd. I guess everyone is in a different reality. Also humans are pack animals, most will conform to anything, even Naziism. They are pack animals with a hive mind. It's an instinct. That's why authority has such an easy time.
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MrMan wrote:
July 19th, 2021, 10:40 am

The common cold may be a corona virus, and COVID-19 may be a corona virus, but that does not make COVID-19 the common cold.
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There are people getting sick. That doesn't mean there is no hype. There seem to be inflated numbers, deaths attributed to COVID-19 that probably should be attributed to other diseases, etc. The vast majority of people who get it recover. People die from the flu, too.
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Some people have little filter when it comes to media, accepting news reports uncritically.
Many people especially in USA are totally brainwashed and they are unable to compare their own USA-data with data from other countries and to ask questions. They ignore just everything which is not from USA with childish arguments.

In USA 624.983 deaths are reported because of the Corona-Virus - something is wrong with these numbers, creating mass hysteria.

Here in Japan there are only 15.044, in Korea 2059, and in Taiwan 769 confirmed deaths and the total number of funerals did not change over years - in Japan about 1.370.000 per year.

Considering the population USA vs. Japan+Korea+Taiwan, the deaths in USA should not be more than 35000. From where is this difference coming from?

How come that Italy+UK (together about same population as Japan) report more than 255.000 deaths, while Japan reports only 15.044?

About the virus itself, research in South Korea and Japan never found anything that the virus is man-made or does not exist or such strange theories.
Escaped from a laboratory maybe, but not man-made.

In the province where I am living in Japan, out of 1.9 million people, only 39 are confirmed to be corona-infected and in hospitals.
We have no restrictions to go out, no demonstrations, no riots - life here is calm and normal like always. I can travel in all Japan by car, train, ship, airplane... no shortage of goods to buy etc.

About vaccinations, there are available and if you want you can go to one of these many clinics for these 2 shots (Pfizer or Moderna) - and if not, up to you. Nobody here is forced into vaccinations.

The total number of recorded confirmed corona infections in Japan is 796,774. - In USA it is 35.018.600. More than 40 times more!
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What does covaids mean?

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Yohan wrote:
July 19th, 2021, 11:01 pm
MrMan wrote:
July 19th, 2021, 10:40 am

The common cold may be a corona virus, and COVID-19 may be a corona virus, but that does not make COVID-19 the common cold.
.....
There are people getting sick. That doesn't mean there is no hype. There seem to be inflated numbers, deaths attributed to COVID-19 that probably should be attributed to other diseases, etc. The vast majority of people who get it recover. People die from the flu, too.
.....
Some people have little filter when it comes to media, accepting news reports uncritically.
Many people especially in USA are totally brainwashed and they are unable to compare their own USA-data with data from other countries and to ask questions. They ignore just everything which is not from USA with childish arguments.

In USA 624.983 deaths are reported because of the Corona-Virus - something is wrong with these numbers, creating mass hysteria.

Here in Japan there are only 15.044, in Korea 2059, and in Taiwan 769 confirmed deaths and the total number of funerals did not change over years - in Japan about 1.370.000 per year.

Considering the population USA vs. Japan+Korea+Taiwan, the deaths in USA should not be more than 35000. From where is this difference coming from?

How come that Italy+UK (together about same population as Japan) report more than 255.000 deaths, while Japan reports only 15.044?

About the virus itself, research in South Korea and Japan never found anything that the virus is man-made or does not exist or such strange theories.
Escaped from a laboratory maybe, but not man-made.

In the province where I am living in Japan, out of 1.9 million people, only 39 are confirmed to be corona-infected and in hospitals.
We have no restrictions to go out, no demonstrations, no riots - life here is calm and normal like always. I can travel in all Japan by car, train, ship, airplane... no shortage of goods to buy etc.

About vaccinations, there are available and if you want you can go to one of these many clinics for these 2 shots (Pfizer or Moderna) - and if not, up to you. Nobody here is forced into vaccinations.

The total number of recorded confirmed corona infections in Japan is 796,774. - In USA it is 35.018.600. More than 40 times more!
Maybe it is because of the mentality. Notice the difference between Philippines and Thailand. So it could make sense.
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