Which countries has the most Simps and which one has the least?

[Seeker]

If women's sex drives have indeed gotten lower it could be due to them not finding the majority of men as attractive as they used to. Back then just being a regular man with a job gave a man a certain status advantage over an average woman. Men were respected simply were being decent men, rather like women are now. These days just being an average man has no advantages over being an average women, indeed, it's the opposite, so the average women can afford to look down on an average guy who she does not need. Also, women need men far less than they used to due their increased financial independence. On the other hand while the average women in America is much fatter and with a less attractive personality than before, the average man still has much of the same need for a woman. Hence we find the inequality between men and women that we see today. I'm sure you're well aware of all these reasons.

[Outcast9428]

If women's sex drives have indeed gotten lower it could be due to them not finding the majority of men as attractive as they used to. Back then just being a regular man with a job gave a man a certain status advantage over an average woman. Men were respected simply were being decent men, rather like women are now. These days just being an average man has no advantages over being an average women, indeed, it's the opposite, so the average women can afford to look down on an average guy who she does not need. Also, women need men far less than they used to due their increased financial independence. On the other hand while the average women in America is much fatter and with a less attractive personality than before, the average man still has much of the same need for a woman. Hence we find the inequality between men and women that we see today. I'm sure you're well aware of all these reasons.

So if you realize that women are attracted to men who make more money then they do, that financial independence of women is behind a lot of them no longer finding men attractive, and that marriages were healthier when being a regular man with a job afforded you an advantageous status over women... Why do you advocate for women to work and say that men are simps if their woman is idle? From everything you've said, the logical conclusion one would draw here is that women working is possibly the biggest reason why men have lost so much status and value in society.

When I read about women in the Philippines right now and how they behave, I notice that they sound remarkably similar to how women in the 1950s here behaved. In the Philippines, women rely on a male breadwinner and grow up expecting a man to provide for her. The Philippines has almost the exact same social dynamic that the US did in the 50s. Adultery criminalized, divorce illegal, no female independence movement, sexual promiscuity strongly stigmatized, and almost entirely Christian.

Women's financial independence is obviously a result of them flooding the workforce. If women were told not to compete with men by pursuing full time careers but rather be stay at home moms, or part time workers at most, the women's independence movement would completely die and regular, average guys would become attractive to women again.

Besides, housewives are not entirely idle. They would do less work then we are, but when I'm done with work I really am not in the mood for any extra tasks. Having a clean, warm, nice smelling house and dinner prepared is a blessing.

[Seeker]

So if you realize that women are attracted to men who make more money then they do, that financial independence of women is behind a lot of them no longer finding men attractive, and that marriages were healthier when being a regular man with a job afforded you an advantageous status over women... Why do you advocate for women to work and say that men are simps if their woman is idle? From everything you've said, the logical conclusion one would draw here is that women working is possibly the biggest reason why men have lost so much status and value in society.

It's not me saying that men are simps if the woman is idle that wasn't the actual quote at all. He (the West African guy I knew) wasn't actually calling men with stay at home wives simps either. To them, a man was supposed to be a boss and the woman specifically worked for him, or doing a job he specified for a particular reason. It was basically an employer-employee relationship. These guys weren't sentimental about women at all and just saw them as replaceable tools. What we did have in common is we both looked down on men who didn't provide for their families and depended solely on the women, though this also is or used to be common in some cultures of West Africa.

When I read about women in the Philippines right now and how they behave, I notice that they sound remarkably similar to how women in the 1950s here behaved. In the Philippines, women rely on a male breadwinner and grow up expecting a man to provide for her. The Philippines has almost the exact same social dynamic that the US did in the 50s. Adultery criminalized, divorce illegal, no female independence movement, sexual promiscuity strongly stigmatized, and almost entirely Christian.

What you read has little to do with the reality on the ground there. Almost 40% of the labour force there is female. The illegality of divorce has led to many social evils and has done nothing to keep families together.

Women's financial independence is obviously a result of them flooding the workforce. If women were told not to compete with men by pursuing full time careers but rather be stay at home moms, or part time workers at most, the women's independence movement would completely die and regular, average guys would become attractive to women again.

That simply isn't going to happen, most men and virtually all women would not accept it. I sympathise with those men who struggle to find a partner but sending women out of the work force en masse simply is not a price worth paying just so some less attractive men would have better odds of finding a woman.

[Outcast9428]

So if you realize that women are attracted to men who make more money then they do, that financial independence of women is behind a lot of them no longer finding men attractive, and that marriages were healthier when being a regular man with a job afforded you an advantageous status over women... Why do you advocate for women to work and say that men are simps if their woman is idle? From everything you've said, the logical conclusion one would draw here is that women working is possibly the biggest reason why men have lost so much status and value in society.

It's not me saying that men are simps if the woman is idle that wasn't the actual quote at all. He (the West African guy I knew) wasn't actually calling men with stay at home wives simps either. To them, a man was supposed to be a boss and the woman specifically worked for him, or doing a job he specified for a particular reason. It was basically an employer-employee relationship. These guys weren't sentimental about women at all and just saw them as replaceable tools. What we did have in common is we both looked down on men who didn't provide for their families and depended solely on the women, though this also is or used to be common in some cultures of West Africa.

When I read about women in the Philippines right now and how they behave, I notice that they sound remarkably similar to how women in the 1950s here behaved. In the Philippines, women rely on a male breadwinner and grow up expecting a man to provide for her. The Philippines has almost the exact same social dynamic that the US did in the 50s. Adultery criminalized, divorce illegal, no female independence movement, sexual promiscuity strongly stigmatized, and almost entirely Christian.

What you read has little to do with the reality on the ground there. Almost 40% of the labour force there is female. The illegality of divorce has led to many social evils and has done nothing to keep families together.

Women's financial independence is obviously a result of them flooding the workforce. If women were told not to compete with men by pursuing full time careers but rather be stay at home moms, or part time workers at most, the women's independence movement would completely die and regular, average guys would become attractive to women again.

That simply isn't going to happen, most men and virtually all women would not accept it. I sympathise with those men who struggle to find a partner but sending women out of the work force en masse simply is not a price worth paying just so some less attractive men would have better odds of finding a woman.

The source I read said 36% of Filipina women were stay at home moms. The rest of the women there only work because they have to but they are not “independent women” so to speak.

The Soviet Union and China once mandated independence for women and now the women in those same countries are on the cusp of completely giving it up. Anything is possible. Imagine if you had gone back 60 years ago and told the men back then that you'd have large numbers of men today aggressively supporting feminism, that women would be aggressively supporting promiscuity and hookup culture more then men do, that 21% of the young people would be gay, trans, or bisexual, that men would literally be attracted to overweight women but call them "thick," and fetishize other men having sex with their wives?

There is nothing normal or natural about the current state of society. It is so dysfunctional we can see it collapsing before our very eyes. Anything this dysfunctional is bound to be reformed in the future.

Of course the price is worth it. Look at everything that has happened since we sent women into the workforce…

- Violent pornography and bdsm/rough sex behaviors have exploded in prevalence with 70% of men and women under 40 years old having done it now.
- Hookup culture has exploded, 70-75% of women have had a one night stand now with the average number being 7. Many men cannot find a single girl in her 20s who doesn’t have a double digit partner count.
- Because of kink/bdsm culture and hookup culture, men are essentially not allowed to love anymore. Avoidant attachment styles are promoted everywhere and people act like nothing is more unattractive from either men or women then being “needy” or “not being a challenge.” And then men are forced to be “a challenge” through their entire relationship with a girl and never allowed to just love her as a man and a woman together should.
- Women have become disgusting and unfeminine. Most women don’t carry any of the sweet, nurturing feminine spirit that once made them attractive. Women in America have little to no desire for genuine love anymore and some of them hate men so much they actually cheer for our suffering.
- 25% of men now will never marry. The life expectancy for the first time in a long time has started dropping but this isn’t happening among married men. The drop in life expectancy is happening exclusively among the unmarried. Unmarried people are way more likely to die from “deaths of despair” such as drug overdose, alcoholism, or suicide then married people are.

Yes, female independence really is that bad and any price we must pay to abolish it is worth paying.

What suffering is greater then not being able to experience the life long love of a woman and family? I’d rather live in the kind of poverty Filipinos experience but with a loyal loving wife by my side then live a lonely life with no wife and family.