Are Jews responsible for Feminism?

[hb2345]

@hb2345

OK, this Men Going Thier Own Way thing is seems rather straightforward. You don't want or pursue a female in your life. Fine. But, is there really any difference between that and just wanting to be single? What about FWB? does that count? Don't you get horny? I bet you do. The internet didn't really seem to have many kind things to say about MGTOW. misogynistic, bitter, deluded men. Incels CANT get laid, even if they try, but MGTOW CHOOSES not to get laid? is that how it works? Am I, missing something?

Yes, brains cells. MGTOW is not against getting laid. It's against a traditional social model, which assumes men have to sacrifice their lives for women, children, and a career, because the playing field is no longer even. MGTOW wants you to be happy/content and free. It's a whole different, revolutionary mindset striving for achieving peace with yourself.

And no MGTOW is not about "wanting to be single". It's about not wanting to participate in social institutions like marriage. Otherwise MGTOW can be with somebody like a girlfriend or a fu ck buddy/booty call. You don't have to be single to be MGTOW.

Assuming you aren't gay, I'll surmise you want and desire girls. I don't care what you say, on SOME level, you seek their validation. What do you do for sex ? Pay for it? That gets expensive really quick. I don't even really disagree with the 'advice' that you and other trot out. But it's just little more than platitudes and cliches that have little to no actionable steps for solid long term behavioral change. "Be your own man", and "Don't put p***y up on a pedastal" are well intentioned, but HOW exactly?

I'm living my life the way I see fit. I don't pander to women. They're not the center of my attention. I have a set of my own personal, unique values and goals that are high on my priority list and I'm moving forward to meet them. If a right woman comes along she's welcome to join me, but I will never actively seek out a woman or make her the pinnacle of my existence. They're a side benefit, nothing more.

I think many girls think highly of themselves. I remember a long time ago, this girl Adrienne was describing to me how one of her friends was being mistreated by a guy we both knew and asked me half joking, half serious, "do you treat girls like that, rygar?" Many of them are f***ing weird on some level, why is that? I never trusted them.

Well, you're pretty fu cking weird yourself and I wouldn't trust you either.

I dont think Wu puts the poon tang up on a stool, tbh. Quite the contrary, he's actually very critical of women, I mean that's the point of the whole website, dude. The podcasts I've listened to he's constantly criticizing their antics.

Yes he does, idiot. He practically lives for cheap easy p***y. Every action in his life is somehow attached to it. He's not critical of all women. He's only critical of Western women, because he can't get them. Wu is criticizing everything because he loves to shift blame instead of acknowledging his own shortcomings of which he has plenty. Just like you do with the Jews.

As for our jewish friends, I dont really think the whole, Indians own convienience stores, Asians own dry cleaners, etc is very convincing. None of those endeavors have a political agenda, to the best of my experience. Television, movies, can indeed serve as a medium for a rotten political agenda. Again, by saying "Jews", we should not take it to mean that every single jewish person in America has a personal say in it, but it just so happens that many of the people running these media corporations and thus broadcasting these messages are indeed jewish, at least disproportionate to their numbers. It's kind of like saying, not every person with a tattoo is a criminal, but a a lot of criminals happen to have tattoos.

Jews are also over represented in medicine, science, law, banking, finance, jewellery. Do those fields also have a political agenda? You don't want to be treated by a Jewish doctor? You don't want Jewish bookkeeper to do your taxes?

Yes, media can by utilized for evil things. They produced plenty of nasty propaganda movies in Nazi Germany, but WTF do Jews have to do with that? Hollywood was created by the Jews a long time ago, when movies had no sound and were black and white. Charlie Chaplin and Three Stooges type of stuff. What "rotten political agenda" are you even talking about, you fuc king retard? Did you find it in Jaws or Terminator? You don't know WTF you're talking about.

Many, many successful, intelligent, well known people have criticized "jews" for hundreds, if not thousands of years. Why is that?

I already told you why, you f***ing moron.

The reason the Jews were always heavily criticized was to scapegoat them in order to win political favors, manipulate general public, shift blame, or to rob them. It's that simple. If you want to criticize Jews then you need to provide a fair criticism backed by verifiable facts other than "Wah, wah, wah...the Jews control everything!".

Do you have a reading comprehension problem or something?

Why no other ethnic group? We're these people all "wrong"?

What do you mean "no other ethnic group"? There were plenty of other ethnic groups that were unfairly treated throughout the centuries. For example, Slavs and Gypsies were viewed as inferior sub-human (untermensch) by the Nazis and were targeted for total extermination. Africans were enslaved for three hundred years and were viewed as free labor instead of human beings. Armenians were massacred by the Turks. The Irish were treated like dogs by the Anglos. The list of racism, bigotry, ethnic cleansing, genocide, and persecution goes on and on...

So yes, "these people" were all wrong and so are you.

Learn some history, retard.

[Rygar1]

OK, so we got a white knight faggot here. I mean I suspected it, but now it's totally obvious. For someone who seems to have found the golden chalice with mgtow, you sure seem bitter. Are you ugly? Ugly people are usually very angry. You know who isn't ugly? Me. You know how I know? Because girls have told me that most of my life. Words like 'handsome', 'hot' and good looking peppered throught the conversation.

It's rather ironic that you criticize Wu and his ilk for being a loser and not being able to get women, yet you embrace an ideology that emphasizes not getting women. I mean what's the difference between a guy who can't 'get'women, and a guy who says online that says he doesn't care if he gets women? The end result is still the same.

You're a fu cking nobody. An anonymous angry little baby who just assumes maliciousness when there isn't any. You're rather guessing my intent, and guessing wrong. Most guys on this this forum obviously agree with Winston's philosophy and are trying to better themselves in some way or another through the use of these forums(to some extent).

I'll assume, however, that you're at least somewhat intelligent, just by diction and historical knowledge. I think it's fair to look at things as dispassionately as possible. I may not like my mother, for example, but she's tough. She doesn't take any sh1t from anyone. I'll give her that. My father, not so much, he was a timid pushover. Sorry dude, but it's true.

I mean, honestly, I don't know how old you are, but if you're 25 plus, you cannot tell me with a straight face that many, not most or all, but many of women espouse the terrible 'qualities' that Wu mentions. It's rather taboo, but nonetheless accurate, generally. Yes, there are exceptions to everything, but many of them are indeed unfriendly, unapproachable, head cases. And it's weird that almost every single one of them says she has a 'boyfreind'. Almost no single women, but a lot of single men. That's mathematically impossible.

As for jews, I'm just learning about their rather controversial history. I'm a novice. I just noticed a lot of criticism toward that group going back thousands if years, and very few other groups. Yes, slavs and gypsies were considered untermench, and the Irish were mistreated by the Angelo's, but thats recent. It didn't seem to occur for thousands of years. I don't see how the two examples are analogous.

[hb2345]

OK, so we got a white knight faggot here. I mean I suspected it, but now it's totally obvious. For someone who seems to have found the golden chalice with mgtow, you sure seem bitter. Are you ugly? Ugly people are usually very angry. You know who isn't ugly? Me. You know how I know? Because girls have told me that most of my life. Words like 'handsome', 'hot' and good looking peppered throught the conversation.

The only faggot here is yourself, faggot. Bitter, angry incel, looking to point a finger instead of looking in the mirror, like most of the abroaders here. If ugly people are angry then it makes you a fu cking troll. If you were handsome you wouldn't be whining about chicks and Jews and whatever else you're whining about here. Instead, you'd be scoring girls left and right.

It's rather ironic that you criticize Wu and his ilk for being a loser and not being able to get women, yet you embrace an ideology that emphasizes not getting women. I mean what's the difference between a guy who can't 'get'women, and a guy who says online that says he doesn't care if he gets women? The end result is still the same.

MGTOW emphasizes not revolving your life around women, retard. The end result is not the same. In the end MGTOW men are happy and content, while you blackpilled incel faggots are bitter and angry until the day you die. Being successful or unsuccessful with women is irrelevant here.

You're a fu cking nobody. An anonymous angry little baby who just assumes maliciousness when there isn't any. You're rather guessing my intent, and guessing wrong. Most guys on this this forum obviously agree with Winston's philosophy and are trying to better themselves in some way or another through the use of these forums(to some extent).

It's much better then being a king of incels like Wu, you retard ))) I'm not the one bitching about women and Jews like little baby, you are.

I mean, honestly, I don't know how old you are, but if you're 25 plus, you cannot tell me with a straight face that many, not most or all, but many of women espouse the terrible 'qualities' that Wu mentions. It's rather taboo, but nonetheless accurate, generally. Yes, there are exceptions to everything, but many of them are indeed unfriendly, unapproachable, head cases. And it's weird that almost every single one of them says she has a 'boyfreind'. Almost no single women, but a lot of single men. That's mathematically impossible.

My age is irrelevant here. Men espouse plenty of terrible qualities too. If I was a woman I wouldn't like this goofy clown Wu either. Not only he's short, fat, and ugly, but also incredibly ignorant and suffering from malignant form of narcissism and delusions of grandeur. The only women who can stand this schizophrenic chink midget are ugly opportunistic third world savages who are only interested in his wallet and possible immigration prospects. But for a normal woman it's easy to just say she has a BF, so you thirsty clowns leave her alone. Why would any sane woman want to go out with an angry, malcontent, chauvinistic, misogynist loser who hates all women and shits on them constantly and openly? I mean, would you go out with a rabid, men hating female? It doesn't make any sense.

As for jews, I'm just learning about their rather controversial history. I'm a novice. I just noticed a lot of criticism toward that group going back thousands if years, and very few other groups. Yes, slavs and gypsies were considered untermench, and the Irish were mistreated by the Angelo's, but thats recent. It didn't seem to occur for thousands of years. I don't see how the two examples are analogous.

Recent? If you knew history you'd know that Slavs were under Mongol occupation for 300 years going back to Medieval ages. Afterwards they were f***ed with by every nation under the sun: Poles, Austrians, Swedes, Germans, French, Brits, Turks, etc... Same goes for many other ethnic groups including Jews who were always used as scapegoats by the rich and powerful to divert attention from their own wrongdoing or to rob them, because it was easy and convenient to persecute a small helpless minority group. Like I said before - learn history, you unintelligent, incompetent, bigoted, antisemitic ignoramus.

[Rygar1]

There are many factors that go into play with success or lack thereof for any area of a man's life. Love, sex, money, career, health, outlook, etc. While I certainly cannot say I was ever physically abused, my upbringing was...tense. parents fought constantly, moved around alot. Never had a strong support network. What can you do? That was the hand I was dealt with, you can't pick your parents. Some guys have great fathers who take you under their wing and show you the ways of the world, including the fairer sex. They're supportive, nurturing, yet masculine. Mine wasn't. I'm sorry he passed, but he was a fu king terrible role model. Terrible. I cannot give him my blessings.

I make no bones that I've been in a rut for awhile. Everyone has them. Some last for a month, sometimes they last for a decade or more. And yes, this includes a lack of poon tang as well. I'm trying to get in better shape, cut back on social media, meditate, etc. I still have a long way to go. They used to call these mid life criseses (I'm 38)

Beleive me or not, in my teens and 20s, I enjoyed a moderate amount of success with women. But there was always this approach avoidance conflict. Anytime I would get the green light, I would ghost them for some reason. It could be a subconcious conflict.

Honestly, I'll go so far as to agree with SOME points about Winston. It seems very clear to me that he has an autism spectrum disorder, along with some social anxiety, and mild depression. He's whiny, complaining and thinks too much. He repeats himself alot, as well. But it's not fair to say ne HATES women. Criticizing their faults isn't the same as loathing them. And even if he, or I, or anyone else does, who cares? There's plenty of women who hate men and never seem to garner the same attention in pop culture. Why is that?

You and others like you who think you're so bright always seem to spout out these cliches, but they're so vague as to have no concrete practical benefit. " stop blaming others" OK, how? I mean, how do you REALLY change the inner workings of your mind? I asked another guy this in another thread and he gave me some nonsense about tarot cards or whatever. If you've got it so figured out, enlighten me, dammit! Seriously. Can we really change our core selves? I have doubts as to think we can. You're right in saying we shouldn't compare ourselves to others, and I agree, in THEORY. But the REALITY is everyone does. We're a social species. We compare ourselves to a social 'norm' and often come up short. How can we just live by our own standards?

Yeah, I'm an asshole, to some extent. I'm grumpy, irritable and moody alot. And people get on my nerves. I'm trying to change, but it's hard.

[hb2345]

There are many factors that go into play with success or lack thereof for any area of a man's life. Love, sex, money, career, health, outlook, etc. While I certainly cannot say I was ever physically abused, my upbringing was...tense. parents fought constantly, moved around alot. Never had a strong support network. What can you do? That was the hand I was dealt with, you can't pick your parents. Some guys have great fathers who take you under their wing and show you the ways of the world, including the fairer sex. They're supportive, nurturing, yet masculine. Mine wasn't. I'm sorry he passed, but he was a fu king terrible role model. Terrible. I cannot give him my blessings.

So? What does any of it has to do with women or Jews? Plenty of black professional athletes are raised by single mothers. It doesn't seem to affect them any. They're all alpha male gigachads.

I make no bones that I've been in a rut for awhile. Everyone has them. Some last for a month, sometimes they last for a decade or more. And yes, this includes a lack of poon tang as well. I'm trying to get in better shape, cut back on social media, meditate, etc. I still have a long way to go. They used to call these mid life criseses (I'm 38)

You're not in a rut. You just got old. Your best days are over and now it's time to face the music. You're poor too probably, right? And no, 38 is not an age of a midlife crisis.

A midlife crisis is a transition of identity and self-confidence that can occur in middle-aged individuals, typically 45 to 64/65 years old.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midlife_crisis

Beleive me or not, in my teens and 20s, I enjoyed a moderate amount of success with women. But there was always this approach avoidance conflict. Anytime I would get the green light, I would ghost them for some reason. It could be a subconcious conflict.

It's not a "subconscious conflict". You're just a pu ssy. A weak, effeminate former pretty boy who doesn't know what he wants and what to do with a woman once he gets her. In other words you're not a real man. Real men go and get what's theirs. And once they get it, they sure as shit know what to do with it. I'm guessing you never had to work hard for women attention. Well, now you have to work hard for tail and you don't like it, so you're blaming feminism and the Jews, which is fu cking pathetic and incredibly stupid.

Honestly, I'll go so far as to agree with SOME points about Winston. It seems very clear to me that he has an autism spectrum disorder, along with some social anxiety, and mild depression. He's whiny, complaining and thinks too much. He repeats himself alot, as well. But it's not fair to say ne HATES women.

"Autism" is just an excuse. Wu is not autistic, depressed, or anxious. He's just a deluded narcissistic ass-clown living in his own delusional little world. You know who is "autistic, depressed, or anxious"? Those Hikikomori shut-ins in Japan. But the guy who regularly travels the globe and has no problem communicating with a bunch of different people sure as shit doesn't have those problems. If anything, Wu is a social butterfly and he has plenty of confidence.

Criticizing their faults isn't the same as loathing them. And even if he, or I, or anyone else does, who cares? There's plenty of women who hate men and never seem to garner the same attention in pop culture. Why is that?

There's a difference between constructive criticism and shitting on someone, while hurling cliches and stereotypes. He said that women are weak. Really? Check this out - https://youtube.com/shorts/iLpLra015a4? ... xF-5Ik6ZRi

https://www.youtube.com/@mermaid.kayleigh

Can a weak person do something like this?

I don't condone men hate and double standards either, BTW.

You and others like you who think you're so bright always seem to spout out these cliches, but they're so vague as to have no concrete practical benefit. " stop blaming others" OK, how? I mean, how do you REALLY change the inner workings of your mind? I asked another guy this in another thread and he gave me some nonsense about tarot cards or whatever. If you've got it so figured out, enlighten me, dammit! Seriously. Can we really change our core selves? I have doubts as to think we can. You're right in saying we shouldn't compare ourselves to others, and I agree, in THEORY. But the REALITY is everyone does. We're a social species. We compare ourselves to a social 'norm' and often come up short. How can we just live by our own standards?

Yeah, I'm an asshole, to some extent. I'm grumpy, irritable and moody alot. And people get on my nerves. I'm trying to change, but it's hard.

"Stop blaming others" is not a cliche. It's a sound advice. Surely, you can blame others if they're actually at fault and deserve it, but just blaming someone for something they didn't do is borderline demented. It's not a difficult concept to grasp.

How do you stop blaming the Jews? Begin with educating yourself on the history of antisemitism and persecution of Jews for starters - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stereotypes_of_Jews

I don't know what else to tell you. Maybe seek therapy and work on your self-esteem issues. Changing your core self, your character, and personality is very difficult, but yes, generally speaking you can change your thinking process and your personal values. It doesn't happen overnight though. It takes experience, maturing, education, and using your brains. Critical thinking is one of the most important aspects of growing up, becoming an independent thinker and your own man. One thing for sure - stop listening to Wincent Wu. He's poisoning your weak little mind with hateful garbage and incel propaganda.

[Rygar1]

The reason the Jews were always heavily criticized was to scapegoat them in order to win political favors, manipulate general public, shift blame, or to rob them. It's that simple. If you want to criticize Jews then you need to provide a fair criticism backed by verifiable facts other than "Wah, wah, wah...the Jews control everything!".

OK, the rebuttal to this came to me a few days ago. It seems to be a pretty common response to jewish persecution over the years. My mom has said this to some extent, as well. I could never quite articulate a response to it, but I'll try my best. When I, or you or anyone else get information to attempt to learn something about some historical happenings, we're getting that info from SOMEWHERE else other than requisite first hand experience, (i,e books, tv, etc) i can safely assume you were not alive during the middle ages or before when all this mistreatment was occurring, so you base your belief on some other source. Why beleive it? Why beleive one source over another? If I plop down one book that claims "jews" are responsible for alot of social ills, and another book that claims they aren't, how do we know which one is true? There have been some for both. For the record, I don't beleive any one over the other. It's just curious that it has come up so many times.

As for poon tang, guys like it. You can "go your own way" as much as possible, but when you get lonely and or horny, you want it. Yes, I was in my youth very handsome, a lot of young men are. They're fit, tall, and have pretty faces. My own dad used to call me a pretty boy. I'll concede that there is a laziness factor that plays a part as well. When something comes natural, you don't try as hard. Over time, you atrophy. I've always said an average looking guy who hustles will have more success than a good looking guy who sits on his ass.

I certainly would advocate most young men, and men in general to either cut back on, or even totally eliminate social media. Without getting too deep, it really has been shown to exacerbate mental illness and lead to low self esteem. You're only seeing people's highlights and not seeing their bloopers. We tend to think that's how they ALWAYS live and it's simply not true.

I've tried different forms of counseling and therapy over the years to little avail. It was just a bunch of cliches and mental exercises I derived little value from. I like reading, though. Do you have any books you recommend?

Yeah, alot of times I feel like a pu ssy. Too in my head. Not aggressive.

I've never really had alot of money or success either! How did you know that?

[MrMan]

Yes jews ruined entire world but it wasn't their idea, they are also bunch of puppets, real rulers are reptilians that are all over this planet and also sitting on the moon.

I hope your profile is satire or metaphor. You are one-upping a poster who goes by Mercury.

[MrMan]

Jews have been used as scapegoats. They also tend to have high IQs (Ashkenazis at least) and tend to invest down the generation for education, for example paying to educate grandchildren. Those that abandon their religion, especially, have been active in promoting a lot of 'isms', some of which have been quite damaging.

In the middle ages, when Christians were not allowed to charge each other interest, in some places Jews would, and would own pawn shops and things like that, so people might think of Jews as the people who repossessed their possessions or ended up with grandmas ring. And some of the Jewish families grew rich through charging Gentiles interest and other practices. This led to resentment.

[Rygar1]

Jews have been used as scapegoats.

Prove it. Again, what sources have you referenced to suggest these assertions? You and I weren't alive in the middle ages, so how can anyone assert this? I think it's a reasonable question to ask. Most of the literature, at least what I've skimmed, criticized their unscrupulous business practices, first and foremost (charging excessive interest etc) you're getting this information from somewhere else(probably books) that have stated this, and people repeat it as if it were infallible. Why beleive everything or anything in a book?

To pre-emptively respond to the obvious, this works both ways. We shouldn't beleive everything or anything in a book or books that assert the opposite, either(jews are responsible for social ills) without a SUBSTANTIAL amount of evidence.

[Rygar1]

In the middle ages, when Christians were not allowed to charge each other interest, in some places Jews would, and would own pawn shops and things like that, so people might think of Jews as the people who repossessed their possessions or ended up with grandmas ring. And some of the Jewish families grew rich through charging Gentiles interest and other practices. This led to resentment.

This is actually pretty much directly in line with some of the historical criticisms. You're not even disagreeing with them.

[hb2345]

OK, the rebuttal to this came to me a few days ago. It seems to be a pretty common response to jewish persecution over the years. My mom has said this to some extent, as well. I could never quite articulate a response to it, but I'll try my best. When I, or you or anyone else get information to attempt to learn something about some historical happenings, we're getting that info from SOMEWHERE else other than requisite first hand experience, (i,e books, tv, etc) i can safely assume you were not alive during the middle ages or before when all this mistreatment was occurring, so you base your belief on some other source. Why beleive it? Why beleive one source over another? If I plop down one book that claims "jews" are responsible for alot of social ills, and another book that claims they aren't, how do we know which one is true? There have been some for both. For the record, I don't beleive any one over the other. It's just curious that it has come up so many times.

You do realize that many people who witnessed WW2 are still alive, including the Nazis, regular German civilians, and the holocaust survivors? There are plenty of first hand accounts, video/audio footage, recorded interviews, official statements, and testimonies, including well documented court archives from Nuremberg Trials. There are literally actual fu cking Nazis on record saying what they did to the Jews was predicated on bullshit and Hitler's insane ideas. What more proof do you need??? Measuring someone's scull's shape and size, then labeling an entire ethnicity as "untermensch" based on your findings. Does it seem legit to you? When a Nazi patrol comes to your house, arrests you, seizes your assets, then sends you to a concentration camp without a court trial or any legitimate reason other than "Jews are bad, mkaaayy", that's what you call a "scapegoating". Mind you they did it to the Jewish children too, not just adults. How is a child at fault here????? Were children the "dirty money lenders" too?

As for poon tang, guys like it. You can "go your own way" as much as possible, but when you get lonely and or horny, you want it. Yes, I was in my youth very handsome, a lot of young men are. They're fit, tall, and have pretty faces. My own dad used to call me a pretty boy. I'll concede that there is a laziness factor that plays a part as well. When something comes natural, you don't try as hard. Over time, you atrophy. I've always said an average looking guy who hustles will have more success than a good looking guy who sits on his ass.

Everything in life has a price. If you want to ruin yourself playing an uneven playing field then by all means go for it. Just don't say you haven't been warned. And yes, when you work hard for pu ssy, women can see that you're actually interested and motivated. But if you act aloof they lose interest real quick because they don't sense commitment and initiative. Women like energetic, enthusiastic, pro-active, ambitious men, not to be confused with simps. It's in their nature to admire a go-getter.

I certainly would advocate most young men, and men in general to either cut back on, or even totally eliminate social media. Without getting too deep, it really has been shown to exacerbate mental illness and lead to low self esteem. You're only seeing people's highlights and not seeing their bloopers. We tend to think that's how they ALWAYS live and it's simply not true.

Yes, social media is cancer, brain rot, and the Petri dish for all sorts of personal insecurities and complexes. The grass is always greener on the other side (this applies to happier abroad stuff as well). Which is why I always stress the importance of thinking for yourself. That's how you become your own man.

I've tried different forms of counseling and therapy over the years to little avail. It was just a bunch of cliches and mental exercises I derived little value from. I like reading, though. Do you have any books you recommend?

Just read any regular Psychology 101 text book to understand the basics of human psyche and how our brains work. Don't go too deep. I'm talking simple community college level stuff. Also, check out Aaron Clarey's books and his YouTube channel - https://www.youtube.com/@AaronClarey. FYI, most of Aaron's recent videos on his YouTube channel are located under "Live" tab, not "Videos" tab. Watch MGTOW videos. Most importantly always try to figure out shit on your own. The roots, causes, and effects. That's how you develop your brain and consequently change for the better. Personally, I don't believe in spoon feeding, over explaining, the mentors and the gurus. Each and every person needs to figure out things on their own, unless mentally challenged. Analysis and critical thinking is the key here! That's the only way to the true intellectual/emotional development/maturing.

Yeah, alot of times I feel like a pu ssy. Too in my head. Not aggressive.

You are also low IQ, poorly educated, immature (man-child), utterly confused, and a dumb follower.

I've never really had alot of money or success either! How did you know that?

You wouldn't be complaining. Even if you were a rich, successful, highly accomplished incel, you'd probably have enough smarts, education, and life experiences to understand everything a little better.

[hb2345]

In the middle ages, when Christians were not allowed to charge each other interest, in some places Jews would, and would own pawn shops and things like that, so people might think of Jews as the people who repossessed their possessions or ended up with grandmas ring. And some of the Jewish families grew rich through charging Gentiles interest and other practices. This led to resentment.

This is actually pretty much directly in line with some of the historical criticisms. You're not even disagreeing with them.

Yeah, the only problem these "historic criticisms" is actually antisemitic bullshit, based on criticizers being bad, unfair, biased people themselves.

One form of economic antisemitism in the Middle Ages was a mass of legal restrictions imposed on the occupations and professions of Jews. Local rulers and church officials closed many professions to the Jews, pushing them into marginal occupations considered repugnant, such as tax- and rent-collecting and money-lending, but tolerated them as a "necessary evil".[21]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_ ... rofessions

[Rygar1]

@hb2345

You do realize that eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable? You may quickly counter with "maybe one or two or five is, but there are THOUSANDS of eyewitness testimonies to ww2 atrocities". There sure is, but guess what, there are also THOUSANDS of "eyewitness" testimonies to people being abducted by aliens over the years as well. Do you beleive that as well? Why beleive one and disbelieve the other?

You said something upthread that I'm too lazy to quote, but it was something along the lines of " a real man knows what he wants and isn't afraid to go after it, and MORE IMPORTANTLY, ONCE HE GETS IT SURE AS HELL KNOWS WHAT TO DO WITH IT" I read that 30 times. It was really profound. It the difference between obtaining something, and then MAINTAINING something. There's a very real reason why I've heard my whole life, "omg, he's so cute" and hug and kiss girls on the cheek, while other men fu ck them every single day. I get that. Maybe I am a pu ssy, maybe I am a man child, that's not uncommon(do you remember those seinfeld episodes where Jerry would often lament to George how " were not men, were children"?) I guess I've had maybe two girlfrinds for about two or three months. They usually stop calling and show no interest after awhile. I just act like myself.

You claim the playing field is uneven. Against whom? Men? How specifically? If it's men, then we can be in agreement there. Interestingly enough, your advice contradicts most of the supposed wisdom out there. Most guys advocate acting aloof because it actually works to your advantage because when you act too interested, it comes across as desperate and needy and women can pick up on that. So there's a paradox there, but opinions can differ.

It's funny you mention energy levels among the things women want. I've never been a bar guy myself, but I couldn't help but notice when I did go the guys who seemed succeful had alot of energy. I mean these people just seemed so enthusiastic about not only getting laid, but life in general. That's been another issue, I've just never had high energy levels. With that much energy, how could anyone NOT be succeful? I just don't seem to be able to generate excitement for much of anything and maybe it shows. I've never had much ambition work related either, I guess some people have it and some people just...don't.

Thank you for your honesty.