Kobe Bryant's divorce settlement

[djfourmoney]

djfourmoney,
we all know that if a man has sex outside of marriage he is a "scumbag cheater" but when a woman has sex outside of marriage its because the man is a terrible husband who could not keep "princess" happy.

I was faithful for my 23 year relationship with my wife, 18 years married. In that time I traveled extensively including ASIA, Russia, eastern europe.

When I was getting divorced and pointed out that I had been faithful and asked what respect that was worthy of my wife told me "I do not believe you, all men cheat, so you must have cheated too."

THAT is what not "cheating" is going to get you in divorce. And ALL the other women are going to presume you cheated too. So staying faithful will earn a man precisely NOTHING in divorce. I would never be monogamous again. I do not recommend it to other men. It has no value to women aside from hating on you and calling you names.

AFTER women start valuing monogamy THEN men might be well advised to be monogamous again.

It is for good reason that I recommend men put their money in Switzerland. Divorce will clean out most men. Few men have USD150M as a stash that they can afford to lose 50 to 60% of. Remember my case was 95% to the ex for denouncing the legal fraternity as criminals.

You are just outlining what's unfair about the views of society which is reflected in family court. I didn't create this view, common sense tells me cheating it cheating man or woman, you are not less than human for doing it, you are just unfaithful and can't be trusted.

Again this notion of protecting your money is misguided. Society in of itself is the problem, fix it and reliance on money goes away. We have the technology to build a just and safe society. But too many people believe that sort of society would be boring.... So humans like drama is that what that means? Why do they like drama? Especially Men, many FSU women correctly say "Drama is for Woman, not Men, because Women are emotional and we need Men to be our Rock."

So if that's understood, then you want a just society and will work for it. Rather you buy into the notion you need big bucks to attract women. If that is true, isn't that unfair? Or only unfair when you don't have big bucks?

I have been asking Stacy Herbert and Max Keiser to have a show that would help the little people. I don't have enough money worth putting it in Zurich Bank and last I heard they were not taking American deposits anyway.

[ethan_sg]

" So if that's understood, then you want a just society and will work for it. Rather you buy into the notion you need big bucks to attract women. If that is true, isn't that unfair? Or only unfair when you don't have big bucks?"


Well said, djfourmoney. Yes it seems natural for a woman to want a man who can provide food and shelter (and here I refer to basic needs, not crazed greedy materialism) but what are the conditions in modern society for earning the currency that allows this provision?

Is the socio-economic system that was designed to preserve and protect the interests of the global super rich elite, women (particularly hot ones) and exploits the masses what you would call just and fair conditions for earning the currency that allows this provision of basic needs, a criteria which many men are judged by?

If the criteria for earning this currency is to slave away in the mines or work 12 hour factory days or spend the vast majority of one's life in the monotony of a cubicle and being told what to do by the office hierarchy for a pitiful wage then is this fair, just and worth conforming to? And all this while being faced with a soaring cost of living where actual inflation (as opposed to the official rate of inflation which is often understated by manipulating the basket of goods used to measure inflation) actually exceeds economic growth and where the rich keep getting richer and the middle class and masses keep suffering a decreasing purchasing power? And then you're judged by women by your socio-economic status within such a system, is that fair or desirable?

Is it only unfair when you don't have to big bucks but fair if you're born into the privileged global elite? That would be utter hypocrisy. That would simply be kissing the hand that slaps your face.

If you know that the social contract is unfair and unjust then you got to stick by it in all your values, not simply timidly acquiesce to it whenever and wherever convenient.

djfourmoney,
we all know that if a man has sex outside of marriage he is a "scumbag cheater" but when a woman has sex outside of marriage its because the man is a terrible husband who could not keep "princess" happy.

I was faithful for my 23 year relationship with my wife, 18 years married. In that time I traveled extensively including ASIA, Russia, eastern europe.

When I was getting divorced and pointed out that I had been faithful and asked what respect that was worthy of my wife told me "I do not believe you, all men cheat, so you must have cheated too."

THAT is what not "cheating" is going to get you in divorce. And ALL the other women are going to presume you cheated too. So staying faithful will earn a man precisely NOTHING in divorce. I would never be monogamous again. I do not recommend it to other men. It has no value to women aside from hating on you and calling you names.

AFTER women start valuing monogamy THEN men might be well advised to be monogamous again.

It is for good reason that I recommend men put their money in Switzerland. Divorce will clean out most men. Few men have USD150M as a stash that they can afford to lose 50 to 60% of. Remember my case was 95% to the ex for denouncing the legal fraternity as criminals.

You are just outlining what's unfair about the views of society which is reflected in family court. I didn't create this view, common sense tells me cheating it cheating man or woman, you are not less than human for doing it, you are just unfaithful and can't be trusted.

Again this notion of protecting your money is misguided. Society in of itself is the problem, fix it and reliance on money goes away. We have the technology to build a just and safe society. But too many people believe that sort of society would be boring.... So humans like drama is that what that means? Why do they like drama? Especially Men, many FSU women correctly say "Drama is for Woman, not Men, because Women are emotional and we need Men to be our Rock."

So if that's understood, then you want a just society and will work for it. Rather you buy into the notion you need big bucks to attract women. If that is true, isn't that unfair? Or only unfair when you don't have big bucks?

I have been asking Stacy Herbert and Max Keiser to have a show that would help the little people. I don't have enough money worth putting it in Zurich Bank and last I heard they were not taking American deposits anyway.

[PeterAndrewNolan]

Society in of itself is the problem, fix it and reliance on money goes away.

This is simply not true. If there is a problem it is with INDIVIDUALS not abstracted collectives.

In any case the remedy EXISTS and is ready for use by any man who wants it.

Since very few men want it they should STFU and stop whining.

[djfourmoney]

Society in of itself is the problem, fix it and reliance on money goes away.

This is simply not true. If there is a problem it is with INDIVIDUALS not abstracted collectives.

In any case the remedy EXISTS and is ready for use by any man who wants it.

Since very few men want it they should STFU and stop whining.

The problem is individuals to a point but then it comes easy to label them "Bad Apples". However conditions keep creating these people, so that means the problem is larger than individuals.

What's this remedy? From what I can tell from your post, its somewhere in-between entering into a legal agreement (marriage) should not be encouraged and that if you want to have children you can enter into a relationship without legal entanglements.

But what you forget is that we do have bad actors among men. Just yesterday I saw a post from a woman in the personal section on CL who explained she got HVS2 (Herpes 2) from a guy she met online and sweet talked her into bed. This sort of thing happens quite often actually, not the first time I've heard it. Not to mention many men do father children with no intention of being the father to those children and also sorts of other things many would object with.

Where I see the problem with the rest of us that don't do these things is we get swept up in it. This where "Men Are Dogs" comes from, we get attacked when we generalized but women are allowed to get away with it. Its these little things that grow into a movement that can't be criticized directly = Feminism

I stand by my statement Society as a whole is a problem. Individual Greed isn't a good thing, but multiply that out and you get the latest Wall St clusterfuck. Why are these men greedy? Because it gets them laid... Why aren't they buying boring sedans like a Toyota Camry? Because it doesn't make a woman's legs moist. So more and more men join Wall St. from especially from computer sciences and we get problems that can't be solved by regulation designed to stop things written on paper.

This just ONE example that a global crisis, the feeling that Government believe that making sure bank stay solvent is the thing to do, despite the massive suffering which goes against what Governments are created for.

In the vacuum left by Neo-Liberals, people with no other answers turn to Darwinism. There is no place for Darwinian nonsense in technology dominated society, that leads to innocent people getting killed and we already have that problem in our legal system.

This is why Europe is the example to follow, the people demanded the playing field be leveled and so they did. There is no difference in access to the important things in life in those cultures. Health Care, Education and Job Security are all HIGHER in Europe compared to America. Overall unemployment in Europe is lower than Los Angeles, CA (12% here). There no attacks (Directly) on Unions as is here with Big Business. It was recently found that 57% of Americans don't take their earned time off. Funny for a country with high productivity and only 2 weeks on average time off, when most of Europe is several weeks even for your first year on the job.

For the HERE AND NOW, I believe to the average Westerner Europe is the best answer. Some will argue about Latin America or Asia but then rail against English being spoken in those areas. Sort of strange if you ask me. Its your native tongue, you can either learn another language or STFU about Westernized Women in other countries they can be easily AVOIDED.