zboy1 wrote:theprimebait, you can't be serious are you? Ask any average joe living in the world--whether they would want to live in Northeast Asia or any Arab country--and the overwhelming answer would be Asia. The only good thing about Muslim societies is that they control their women very well--but everything else is a disaster.
What do you mean by "The muslim world is much more socially stable and successfull" What?! Why is the Middle East going to hell, Pakistan is a sh*t-hole, and Afghanistan is a war-zone. The only successful Arab countries I can think of is Dubai and UAE.
But you are right in that Arabia is the cradle of human civilization i.e. Mesopotamia, Ancient Egypt, Babylon, Persia, etc,...I respect the accomplishments of the Arab people greatly.
this is a myth though.North africa is fine.the ME was fine for hundreds of years.the only difference is that the europeans interfere,make war and install governments that the people don't want.notice that syria only 3 yrs ago was a 2nd world country and very modern and stable,where people were happy.notice that any place in the ME with povert,war and social instability has a western backed regime or is being sanctioned by the west for not cowering to them.Baghdade during Saddam's day used to be called the Golden city of the Arabic world.
NEA asia had similar unrest and stagnation until they allowed the Euros to dominate them.notice that the regimes in Asia that don't allow themselves to be controlled are in a similar financial situation as ME countries?
Oman,Saudi,dubai,North africa have little problems because they have good relations with the west.
the system of Islam has nothing to do with ME stagnation as much as it has to do with Western imperialism.why noone blames Catholicism for the stagnation in Latina America,or buddhism for the poverty and unrest in Asia?
Afghanistan was fine until american/Soviet intervention.the Taliban eradicated drug use,and started building schools for women,the conflict there is because of western backed militants fighting against the afghan people.
open your eyes and see that if you obey the white man youll have money,if you dont youre gonna suffer and they will do anything to cause strife among you.look at North korea vs south korea.
but atleast north korea has their dignity.
still people in Yemen are much more happy than in Japan or Korea and they don't want a modern lifestyle,to most Arabs giving up your soul for some bucks isnt worth it.Youll never have elderly crisis in a muslim country like in Japan.youll never have Herbivores in a Arabic country.youll never have any of that.people have amazing clan bonds.They are sincere. in rich 1st world nations people invest in pets because they know noone cares about them or will be around them unless its for a superficial image boost or materialist reasons.
isnt that worth more than a few bucks and shiny toys?
you can't deny that ME countries arent nearly as bad as western media makes it out to be,as Arabs whove been there can tell you.
