Confessions of a reformed racist

[abcdavid01]

I believe culture's a better way to group people as well, but culture is very much tied to race and it'll be a long time before globalization really changes that. It's typical for humans to make easy groupings because that's simply how the mind works and tying certain cultures to certain races makes sense. We can allow exceptions, but that doesn't change things fundamentally. So that is why I consider myself a race realist. No to mention what Cornfed also said, that biology can limit cultural development. Other factors such as environment shape culture too, but race can't be discounted. So I guess my views are similar to yours Marcos, but I believe race is more a factor than environment. Race is internal and environment external. If you think heat makes people lazy, how do you figure Shaka Zulu or Arab warriors like...well Mohammad for one. And let's take your example in reverse. You're saying that if people from warm countries are taken to cold countries they become less lazy? I've heard it before. Why can't that new civility be attributed to closer contact with White people or culture produced by Whites? Are you saying you're more influenced by the climate in the Philippines than the actual Filipinos? Of course it's harder for you to think in warmer climates. You're not physically adapted to it. That's biology and if race can explain physical differences, why in the world wouldn't it explain mental ones?

I'm not against race mixing, but I don't think it should be promoted. You're an exception Marcos. If you're not careful it's very easy for you to come across as a cultural imperialist. A White man trying to rape an Eastern country. So you'd be wise to do everything you can to adapt to your new culture. That's especially for your children's sake. Anything else and you'd just be a racist of a different kind. You wanted a personal and emotional response; I just gave it to you.

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I get most of my views from www.therightstuff.biz . I don't follow it as much anymore though, because I've read enough that I've subsumed their ideas and it's become redundant. But I'm pretty sure the top post right now is one disagreeing with White Nationalisma albeit from a sympathetic point of view...actually now it's second on the front page. Called Analyzing Skyrimism.

[fschmidt]

abcdavid, the problem with your thinking is that race is a product of culture, not the other way around. Great races were produced by great cultures that had high ideals and allowed race mixing. In other words, all great races were the result of race mixing. Those cultures/races that become racist tend to stagnate and die because they no longer have access to the best genes in other races, and so they drift to oblivion. Also, people who take pride in their race instead of in their accomplishments tend not to accomplish very much.

[abcdavid01]

abcdavid, the problem with your thinking is that race is a product of culture, not the other way around. Great races were produced by great cultures that had high ideals and allowed race mixing. In other words, all great races were the result of race mixing. Those cultures/races that become racist tend to stagnate and die because they no longer have access to the best genes in other races, and so they drift to oblivion. Also, people who take pride in their race instead of in their accomplishments tend not to accomplish very much.

Well what we see here is the opposite. White genocide is being promoted by Whites themselves. And if you had to compare my genes it'd be hard to say which side is better or worse because they're both the top two races for average IQ and also for different areas of functioning. Not that I consider myself exceptionally smart, but reasonably so. But my point is, Whites aren't helping lesser races by mixing with them nor are they mixing to give their own children better features. They're race mixing because they hate themselves and that's totally unhealthy on both a personal and societal level. And saying race is a product of culture is a bit like saying an object is the product of its description. Of course biology comes first and while race may just be a description (as words describe objects) that doesn't mean what it describes didn't come first. Man must exist for culture to be produced and man must belong to a certain race, as is biology. Race is a social construct because all words are. That doesn't mean words can't describe real objects.

[KokujinKrusader]

Women tend to race-mix due to "self-hate"; men due to opportunity. This generally seems to be the case, with exceptions, of course.

[fschmidt]

Well what we see here is the opposite. White genocide is being promoted by Whites themselves. And if you had to compare my genes it'd be hard to say which side is better or worse because they're both the top two races for average IQ and also for different areas of functioning. Not that I consider myself exceptionally smart, but reasonably so. But my point is, Whites aren't helping lesser races by mixing with them nor are they mixing to give their own children better features. They're race mixing because they hate themselves and that's totally unhealthy on both a personal and societal level. And saying race is a product of culture is a bit like saying an object is the product of its description. Of course biology comes first and while race may just be a description (as words describe objects) that doesn't mean what it describes didn't come first. Man must exist for culture to be produced and man must belong to a certain race, as is biology. Race is a social construct because all words are. That doesn't mean words can't describe real objects.

You are missing my point. Let's take the British as a example. In early history, a tribe was genetically distinct enough to be considered a race. So the Anglos and the Saxons were races. They combined to form the Anglo-Saxons who then conquered England to make the English. Then there was all kinds of race mixing as England declined and various other European races attacked and mixed in racially. Then England recovered culturally and grew while continuing to allow other people to mix with them. They grew into an empire. Rome had a similar story to create the Roman race which no longer exists as a distinct race. Races form and disappear all the time. If American hadn't decayed so rapidly culturally, an American race would have formed which would have been a good race. I don't know Chinese history, but I bet the Han Chinese are the product of plenty of mixing.

Calling Whites a race is almost pathetic because it is too big a group to be very meaningful. Anyone who really cares about race should be working on forming the next great race out of the best genes of humanity. Let's form a great culture and set it up to encourage the best genes to come into the culture. This great culture would eventually become a great race.

[abcdavid01]

Well what we see here is the opposite. White genocide is being promoted by Whites themselves. And if you had to compare my genes it'd be hard to say which side is better or worse because they're both the top two races for average IQ and also for different areas of functioning. Not that I consider myself exceptionally smart, but reasonably so. But my point is, Whites aren't helping lesser races by mixing with them nor are they mixing to give their own children better features. They're race mixing because they hate themselves and that's totally unhealthy on both a personal and societal level. And saying race is a product of culture is a bit like saying an object is the product of its description. Of course biology comes first and while race may just be a description (as words describe objects) that doesn't mean what it describes didn't come first. Man must exist for culture to be produced and man must belong to a certain race, as is biology. Race is a social construct because all words are. That doesn't mean words can't describe real objects.

You are missing my point. Let's take the British as a example. In early history, a tribe was genetically distinct enough to be considered a race. So the Anglos and the Saxons were races. They combined to form the Anglo-Saxons who then conquered England to make the English. Then there was all kinds of race mixing as England declined and various other European races attacked and mixed in racially. Then England recovered culturally and grew while continuing to allow other people to mix with them. They grew into an empire. Rome had a similar story to create the Roman race which no longer exists as a distinct race. Races form and disappear all the time. If American hadn't decayed so rapidly culturally, an American race would have formed which would have been a good race. I don't know Chinese history, but I bet the Han Chinese are the product of plenty of mixing.

Calling Whites a race is almost pathetic because it is too big a group to be very meaningful. Anyone who really cares about race should be working on forming the next great race out of the best genes of humanity. Let's form a great culture and set it up to encourage the best genes to come into the culture. This great culture would eventually become a great race.

Okay, and we can talk about all the proto Germanic tribes and the Franks, etc. But that's antiquated even if the idea isn't. Race mixing in modern terms, in the West and in America generally refers to a negative process. Is there a way for racemixing to become positive in this age or is America's failure to produce a distinct race an omen?

[fschmidt]

Okay, and we can talk about all the proto Germanic tribes and the Franks, etc. But that's antiquated even if the idea isn't. Race mixing in modern terms, in the West and in America generally refers to a negative process. Is there a way for racemixing to become positive in this age or is America's failure to produce a distinct race an omen?

The real negative process is homogenization. This is indiscriminate mixing with no criteria at all, and this the result of cultural decay. I don't think the Amish or traditional Mennonites are racist, but they don't have a problem with racial decay because they maintain their culture. Orthodox Jews are racist and pay the price with declining genetics. When Ashkenazi Jews were rising, they had plenty of race mixing though they hid it.

So basically what I keep saying is focus on culture. Form a great culture and race will take care of itself. A great culture would certainly be small and very much self-selected based on character rather than race.

When I ran engineering at a company, I hired programmers based on talent. I wound up with every race represented. The only group that I didn't hire for lack of talent was women. If these programmers had formed a new race, it would have been a more intelligent race than any exiting today.

[abcdavid01]

Okay, I'll say this first. If we want an Eastern example, the one that stands out in my mind is the Aryans mixing with the Mohenjo Daro culture and forming Indians. And certainly China has examples with the Mongols and the Qing.

But anyway, if you really want to represent every race that would take a long time indeed. Globalization means it wouldn't just be the tribes of Europe interbreeding. The kind of diversity you're describing Mr. Schmidt is almost too extreme because it doesn't balance long term benefits with short terms problems. There won't be a real culture associated with my race for probably centuries if ever. I was outcast from both sides of my own family. As a dutiful son, I tried following my father as a child. He doesn't really have family because my grandfather died and my grandmother lives in Israel. He's civil with his brothers, but if they weren't family they'd have nothing to do with each other. He tried raising me reform Jew, but I grew up in an Italian Catholic town like Jersey Shore.

My mother's family speak Hakka Chinese, but she never taught me the language. Plus following my father also meant I was estranged from them since my mother's parents didn't want her to marry a White man. They sent my uncle to talk her out of it.

So even though the race mixing was eugenic in a sense, considering my parents' divorce, I think my mother was a lousy rebel who should have listened to her family. My father did get on better terms with his in laws while he was still married to my mom, but they were never close. Anyway, I was estranged from my mom's family too and I remember crying as a seven year old because I didn't have grandparents like everyone else in school. I had these strange people called pau and gung, whatever the hell that means. I've gotten closer to my mom's family the past few years, but being isolated as a child makes things pretty hard and I'll never get that extremely important time back.

Globalization means race mixing doesn't strike the right balance because even eugenic mixes like myself are extremely outcast. I was outcast from my whole family and everyone in the town I was raised in. That's because in the short term, there don't exist cultures for odd mixes like myself. I'd probably be willing to trade some of this eugenic intelligence just to be able to fit in for once. It's hard to say just how eugenic my mix is anyway. I'm probably less smart in some respects than the average Chinese or Jew. My mix makes me more broadly intelligent, but probably not as sharply intelligent in certain areas as is characteristic of pure Chinese or pure Jew.

I read a review of Fight Club on a White Nationalist site once that said the club started out diverse, but became increasingly White as time went on. I don't know how true that is regarding the film, but it's kind of a similar process. New singular races are formed from mixing old ones over time. But there will never be a culture associated with my mix, at least not in my lifetime. In the short term, but so outcast is horrible. So horrible that even I'd say to hell with eugenics up to a certain point. It's not everything.

Marcos, I hope you can learn something from this. I want you to be a good exception and it does seem like you have the right intentions. I'd just hate for anyone to have to go through what I did with regards to race mixing. It's not even personal insecurity or an illusion all in my head. I really was outcast from everyone.

[fschmidt]

You are blaming your mixed race for your inability to fit into a culture. So I will give my story to show this isn't right.

I am 100% Jewish which means that according to you I should fit right into Judaism. But which Judaism, Liberal or Orthodox? I was raised completely secular and liberal but I reject those views. So I can't culturally fit in with Liberal Judaism or any other form of Liberalism. The Orthodox would accept me racially but I have issues with them. Jews as a whole have an above average IQ, but I don't think the Orthodox Jews do. Most high IQ Jews are liberal or reject Judaism. Orthodox Judaism is culturally designed for the stupid. So here is an example of culture affecting race. Orthodox Judaism is dominated by the Hasidim which is a branch of Judaism originally designed for dumb, ignorant Russian Jewish peasants. Within Judaism, this had grown by encouraging dumb Orthodox Jews to have many kids. The liberal Jews are assimilating. This means that the future of Judaism is actually a stupid race. So as culture changes, the race changes. My background is Hungarian Jew and the Hungarian Jews basically lived by providing intellectual services to Hungary. They were neither Liberal nor Orthodox. They were a reasonable kind of Judaism that no longer exists, and that promoted intelligence. As a result, Hungarian Jews have been the most intellectually productive group per capita in the last 100 years. But it is pointless to dwell on the past, and the future of Judaism is bleak. I want no part of it.

A reasonable culture would accept reasonable people. I am just as much an outcast as you are for the simple reason that no reasonable culture exists today. If a reasonable culture did exist, both of us could join it and our problems would be solved. I don't think the Chinese have a brighter future than Jews do. They also lost their guiding force of Confucianism and will head to disaster. All this is why I keep trying to promote CoAlpha and the Scripturist site. If someone finds a good culture, I would drop my ideas and just join that culture. But until then, I see no alternative but to try to start a sane religion/culture. It doesn't have to be a big group to be successful. If I could get 10 families together in a sane culture, I would be thrilled.

[zboy1]

Women tend to race-mix due to "self-hate"; men due to opportunity. This generally seems to be the case, with exceptions, of course.

That's what I noticed too! Women usually do it out of rebellion, spite or hatred of their own race; men, on the other hand, do it out of either necessity (some White men, for example, cannot get White women due to feminism and their overly ridiculous demands, so they get an Eastern European, Latin or Asian women instead...) or out of love and sometimes just out of lust or to fulfill a particular sexual fetish. ...

Why is that?

[SilverEnergy]

Everyone on the planet is mixed with at least two or more races except for the 100 percent Africans who live in Africa.

For those who hate racial mixing, you're too late.

Mankind has been mixing forever.

Asians have asian, white and sometimes African blood.

Latinos usually have white, native american and african blood in them.

Many whites have african, asian or native american blood in them as well.

There are some 100 percent australian aborignese and some 100 percent eastern indians but most people in the world are mixed.

[KokujinKrusader]

Everyone on the planet is mixed with at least two or more races except for the 100 percent Africans who live in Africa.

For those who hate racial mixing, you're too late.

Mankind has been mixing forever.

Asians have asian, white and sometimes African blood.

Latinos usually have white, native american and african blood in them.

Many whites have african, asian or native american blood in them as well.

There are some 100 percent australian aborignese and some 100 percent eastern indians but most people in the world are mixed.

That may be true, but opponents to race mixing tend to thing about obvious mixtures now. Also, as evident in many posts by users here and on other sites, certain mixes are widely accepted while others are not, especially those mixes that would benefit the posters in question.

[Zionosis]

Sorry but you are very wrong. While people on stormfront and other sites like it are racist so far that it's illogical (they are right about a lot though) you have gone far too much into the opposite end of practically racial denial and fact denial.

I am a white man but I still accept obvious fact. East Asians and European whites are the most superior people.

You may find a really nice black girl or Indian girl or whatever girl but that exception doesn't change the facts.
I too have seen attractive black women. Doesn't mean I am going to pretend blacks aren't generally less attractive and violent people who are from the most backward continent in the entire world. On average they cause more crime and have lower IQ's. They rape women at 2.3x the rate that white men do and also are incarcerated 6.8x the rate white men are. These are just facts and blacks act like this everywhere. Whether it's in Africa or the UK or the USA. Pretty much everywhere.

These are just facts and it's not meant to insult blacks because I am a white man myself and admit that east Asians are more intelligent than my race because I just accept facts. They hold the top 5 positions in country IQ. Hong Kong, SK, Japan, Taiwan, Singapore and then finally a white country Austria and then Germany after that.

I also realize that the 3 men with the highest IQ's on the planet currently are 3 east Asian men who all have IQ's over 200. Kim Ung-Yong, Terence Tao and Christopher Hirata.

Facts are facts.

[Zionosis]

Everyone on the planet is mixed with at least two or more races except for the 100 percent Africans who live in Africa.

For those who hate racial mixing, you're too late.

Mankind has been mixing forever.

Asians have asian, white and sometimes African blood.

Latinos usually have white, native american and african blood in them.

Many whites have african, asian or native american blood in them as well.

There are some 100 percent australian aborignese and some 100 percent eastern indians but most people in the world are mixed.

Actually you are wrong on a few points. Yes it's true that secluded Africans like in sub sahara Africa may be the purest people on the planet, the other statements you made aren't quite true.

Whites and Asians both have neanderthal and Denisovan in them. Where whites and Asians share boundaries they are usually mixed like the Russians and Mongolians and Northern Chinese and east Europeans. Just like southern Europeans have black in them from being geographically closer to the Arabs who in turn have significant black in them.

But west Europeans and people in Ireland and Scotland have been found to be very very pure. So do east Asians like Koreans and Japanese who are very very pure.


Also you are mistaken by assuming that even dark south east Asians have black because of their skin color. They actually have Negrito in them which is actually genetically the most distant race from Africans.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negrito

Also WTF are you on about saying whites have "native American in them". I don't know what theory you have read but that's retarded. Whites in Europe would literally have no native American in them at all. Only some whites from the USA, Canada and south America would have native American in them. And that's only "some". As in north America most of them were wiped out anyway and there have only been around 8 generations of whites after the indians were wiped out and only a few bred in. Even saying most whites from the USA have native Indian in them is absurd and retarded to claim when you think about it.

Also most in Japan and Korea are very pure as the white man didn't even discover these places up until just a few hundred years ago. For Japan it hasn't had whites for the vast majority of it's entire history.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sakoku

Before 1633 whites didn't even know Japan existed and after 1853 when foreigners were allowed in that's only been 161 years of that. To claim that in that 161 years that what little whites got into Japan (mostly ww2) made all 100+ million Japanese have white in them is also absurd. Just doesn't make sense. How many Japanese most likely have some white in them from the past 161 years is obviously going to be more like maybe 10 thousand Japanese people.

[SilverEnergy]

Everyone on the planet is mixed with at least two or more races except for the 100 percent Africans who live in Africa.

For those who hate racial mixing, you're too late.

Mankind has been mixing forever.

Asians have asian, white and sometimes African blood.

Latinos usually have white, native american and african blood in them.

Many whites have african, asian or native american blood in them as well.

There are some 100 percent australian aborignese and some 100 percent eastern indians but most people in the world are mixed.

Actually you are wrong on a few points. Yes it's true that secluded Africans like in sub sahara Africa may be the purest people on the planet, the other statements you made aren't quite true.

Whites and Asians both have neanderthal and Denisovan in them. Where whites and Asians share boundaries they are usually mixed like the Russians and Mongolians and Northern Chinese and east Europeans. Just like southern Europeans have black in them from being geographically closer to the Arabs who in turn have significant black in them.

But west Europeans and people in Ireland and Scotland have been found to be very very pure. So do east Asians like Koreans and Japanese who are very very pure.


Also you are mistaken by assuming that even dark south east Asians have black because of their skin color. They actually have Negrito in them which is actually genetically the most distant race from Africans.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negrito

Also WTF are you on about saying whites have "native American in them". I don't know what theory you have read but that's retarded. Whites in Europe would literally have no native American in them at all. Only some whites from the USA, Canada and south America would have native American in them. And that's only "some". As in north America most of them were wiped out anyway and there have only been around 8 generations of whites after the indians were wiped out and only a few bred in. Even saying most whites from the USA have native Indian in them is absurd and retarded to claim when you think about it.

Also most in Japan and Korea are very pure as the white man didn't even discover these places up until just a few hundred years ago. For Japan it hasn't had whites for the vast majority of it's entire history.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sakoku

Before 1633 whites didn't even know Japan existed and after 1853 when foreigners were allowed in that's only been 161 years of that. To claim that in that 161 years that what little whites got into Japan (mostly ww2) made all 100+ million Japanese have white in them is also absurd. Just doesn't make sense. How many Japanese most likely have some white in them from the past 161 years is obviously going to be more like maybe 10 thousand Japanese people.

You made the grave mistake of even replying to me.

No whites are pure because if they were 100 percent white, then they would be albinos living only 20-25 years and due to mixing with African peoples for thousands of years, they have longer lifespans, it may not be reflected in their ancestry tests but a pure white person would have no pigment whatsoever in their hair, skin or eyes.

You have been brainwashed with the Eurocentric crap that has been shoved down our throats.

ALL dark skinned people come from Africa, you are trying to take away the true African ancestry from people across the world.

You don't know as much about race as you think you do, so just sit down and let me give you an EDUCATION, like I have many non-black people.

I see that you deny the world wide African influence like many non-black people.

For one thing, we all come from Africa and have black African ancestors.

All Y chromosomes go back to black Africa, sorry, it's an undisputed scientific fact.

All races on the planet can trace their roots back to black Africa.

SOME whites have native american blood in them, I have known a few.

I never said ALL whites have native American blood.

Many asians have African blood in them as there ancesters were of African descent.

There are STILL BLACK AFRICAN ASIANS living in asia today, there are images of them online.

The first asians were black Africans and they are light skinned today due to the mixing and conquering by white peoples.

So please go somewhere, I don't need any more non-black people deny the true African legacy of the world.

Yes, the first asians, middle easterners, native americans, egyptians and latinos were black Africans.

Noah had 3 sons, Ham who was black, Shem who was a light brown color and Japheth who turned white due to a genetic mutation.

The ancient Israelites were even brown and dark skinned and the only reason that whites exist is due to a genetic mutation that resulted in them being created from black African peoples.

No go along and do some research and don't come to me with any crap trying to take away the African ancestors of this entire planet.