A young Joe Biden

[E Irizarry R&B Singer]

@have2fly so you'd rather usher in Biden-Harris? Please render your disposition.

[have2fly]

You really have no idea, do you? It's not an improvement in any way. I lived in Ukraine, I saw Soviet Union collapse. I also lived there as expat before this war started. I've seen how shitty life was and still is. You don't want Putin taking over your life. He is a thug, he brings nothing but collapse and anarchy. Russia took over Ossetia, Abkhazia, part of Moldova, parts of Ukraine. You think any of those lands now live in stability or prosperity? Nope. Russian villages don't have paved roads. Life is only good in Moscow. Job market is horrible, starting a business will get you killed by police because they will want to take over your business and you ain't getting anything for it.
I have to admit Putin hired amazing marketing people. He is a populist, his talk is cheap. His entire government is so corrupt one of his top ministers has a private jet flying his dog while retired people don't have enough money to buy food. Just try to live in Russia outside Moscow for a few years and then talk about how great Putin is.

If true, Putin is still better than the alternative, but people largely don't care about this crap. The main reason we are interested in your countries is f***ing your attractive women. Is Putin interfering with that? OK then, Putin bad, but what is your better alternative? But this is a digression from the thread. Please don't derail this thread.

Again, you have no idea. Did you actually live there? Who cares about women when you have no money and no jobs? Are you going to think about women when you can't buy anything for yourself? How about your car get stolen and you find out that city police chief is driving it, but since police bribes the court you can't even file a lawsuit, and you may get just get killed if you do. You buy an apartment, you come home from work one day and can't open the door. You find out that the locks have been changed and there are some random people that took over your apartment. You call the police, they arrive, but those people that live in your apartment have authentic paperwork stating they got this apartment from you as a gift. It also turns out city mayor is their relative and local mob boss is getting a cut out of this. You try to file a lawsuit, but then your car gets burned down and/or you get stabbed on the street randomly. This is the reality of life in Russia, shit like that happens daily. Are you going to enjoy women when you live a life like that?
Yes, shitty countries actually have good women, but Russia is not a good example. At least in other shitty countries government will leave you alone. In Russia government is always involved and they will take anything they can semi-legally or via extortion.
Russian women are also not far from Western women, read all those horror stories about men bringing them here.

[have2fly]

@have2fly so you'd rather usher in Biden-Harris? Please render your disposition.

I see Biden as a generic mainstream American politician that is going to restore international relations with our allies, build a responsible team and calm down the violence. Biden is not influenced by the Russians, which is extremely important. I dislike leftist SJW agenda and I would vote Republican if it was someone like Bush or McCain. Remember before McCain died how much disdain he had for Trump?

[TruthSeeker]

They are running Biden to lose because their plan is to keep Trump in. They have dirt on Trump and can control him. Remember, he hung out with Jeffrey Epstein. He also allegedly raped a woman (E. Jean Carroll) in a department store.

Remember Trump is very pro-Israel.

[Moretorque]

They are running Biden to lose because their plan is to keep Trump in. They have dirt on Trump and can control him. Remember, he hung out with Jeffrey Epstein. He also allegedly raped a woman (E. Jean Carroll) in a department store.

Remember Trump is very pro-Israel.

You're wrong about this, the left is bat shit crazy as are all commie dictatorships. As you get closer to the communal dictatorship it gets crazier and crazier because communism is a facade period... The renters paradise!

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[gsjackson]

@have2fly so you'd rather usher in Biden-Harris? Please render your disposition.

I see Biden as a generic mainstream American politician that is going to restore international relations with our allies, build a responsible team and calm down the violence. Biden is not influenced by the Russians, which is extremely important. I dislike leftist SJW agenda and I would vote Republican if it was someone like Bush or McCain. Remember before McCain died how much disdain he had for Trump?

A perfect recitation of corporate media framing. If the New York Times, CBS, etc. say it's so, who can doubt it? Answer: Lots of people who've been paying attention, and noticed that nothing -- NOTHING -- the corporate media say is ever true. The great value of Trump, if nothing else, is that he's caused them to completely out themselves as agenda-driven propagandists. Stand by for a Trump landslide.

[TruthSeeker]

Biden is senile and they know it. They are running him to lose.

Trump will stay in IMO.

[Moretorque]

@have2fly so you'd rather usher in Biden-Harris? Please render your disposition.

I see Biden as a generic mainstream American politician that is going to restore international relations with our allies, build a responsible team and calm down the violence. Biden is not influenced by the Russians, which is extremely important. I dislike leftist SJW agenda and I would vote Republican if it was someone like Bush or McCain. Remember before McCain died how much disdain he had for Trump?

A perfect recitation of corporate media framing. If the New York Times, CBS, etc. say it's so, who can doubt it? Answer: Lots of people who've been paying attention, and noticed that nothing -- NOTHING -- the corporate media say is ever true. The great value of Trump, if nothing else, is that he's caused them to completely out themselves as agenda-driven propagandists. Stand by for a Trump landslide.

They can not beat him so they will rig it and throw it in the courts like they did in 2000. ..

[gsjackson]

They are running Biden to lose because their plan is to keep Trump in. They have dirt on Trump and can control him. Remember, he hung out with Jeffrey Epstein. He also allegedly raped a woman (E. Jean Carroll) in a department store.

Remember Trump is very pro-Israel.

This is the dirt? He threw Epstein out of his club in Palm Beach when Epstein tried to hit on a teenager. He has said that Bill Clinton has lots of problems with the Epstein connection, suggesting that he doesn't feel vulnerable to such a problem. He has never been on the Lolita Express. And an allegation of a rape? It's also been alleged that he had prostitutes pee on him in a Moscow hotel, which was an obvious fabrication. All kinds of things have been alleged against him, because that's what the media do. Each day they try to find a new hammer to beat on Trump with, regardless of credibility.

I think the sucking up to Israel is just optics, but then I'm sort of a Q believer.

[have2fly]

@have2fly so you'd rather usher in Biden-Harris? Please render your disposition.

I see Biden as a generic mainstream American politician that is going to restore international relations with our allies, build a responsible team and calm down the violence. Biden is not influenced by the Russians, which is extremely important. I dislike leftist SJW agenda and I would vote Republican if it was someone like Bush or McCain. Remember before McCain died how much disdain he had for Trump?

A perfect recitation of corporate media framing. If the New York Times, CBS, etc. say it's so, who can doubt it? Answer: Lots of people who've been paying attention, and noticed that nothing -- NOTHING -- the corporate media say is ever true. The great value of Trump, if nothing else, is that he's caused them to completely out themselves as agenda-driven propagandists. Stand by for a Trump landslide.

Again, why don't McCain and Bush like Trump? I know media is creating a lot of hype, but why is Trump good? What exactly did he accomplish besides creating chaos and blaming everyone around him?

[Cornfed]

Again, why don't McCain and Bush like Trump? I know media is creating a lot of hype, but why is Trump good?

Maybe because he is not quite as much of a scumbag traitor as them. Also maybe because he was the first president in a while who had the temerity to be elected rather than appointed by the global elite.

[have2fly]

Again, why don't McCain and Bush like Trump? I know media is creating a lot of hype, but why is Trump good?

Maybe because he is not quite as much of a scumbag traitor as them. Also maybe because he was the first president in a while who had the temerity to be elected rather than appointed by the global elite.

LMAO Trump was obviously assisted by the Russians. Yes, he replaced previous elites with his own shitbag elites. How is he not a traitor? He is destroying this country from within dividing everyone. This plays exactly into Putin's agenda. Trump is on bad terms with our closest allies, but he adores all kinds of dictators. He never criticized Putin openly, that alone means he playing with Russian mobsters.
Again, what did he accomplish?

[gsjackson]

Again, why don't McCain and Bush like Trump? I know media is creating a lot of hype, but why is Trump good?

Maybe because he is not quite as much of a scumbag traitor as them. Also maybe because he was the first president in a while who had the temerity to be elected rather than appointed by the global elite.

Okay, I don't know if it's true or not -- I assume it isn't -- but there are literally millions of people who believe that McCain and Bush were executed by the Q team for being traitors, and just allowed to save face by fabricating illnesses. Regardless of that, they were at best standard-issue corrupt pols, and anyone who thinks of them as moderate call-it-as-they-see-them centrists, free of both ideology and the influence of special interests, has simply bought the spin of the deep-state-controlled corporate media. They were scoundrels, and one explanation for why they opposed Trump is they knew what would happen to them if he got into office. An awful lot of controlled pols fall into that same category.

Why is Trump good? He is arguably (it still all remains to be seen) a nationalist, an economic populist and a peace monger, as well as someone who continually thumbs his nose at the culture of political correctness. At the most obvious level, Bush and McCain especially were among the biggest war mongers in Washington -- which is really saying something -- and Trump has said all along he's going to end all their little wars. He hasn't started any new ones, so maybe that's a promise that will end up being kept.

[have2fly]

Again, why don't McCain and Bush like Trump? I know media is creating a lot of hype, but why is Trump good?

Maybe because he is not quite as much of a scumbag traitor as them. Also maybe because he was the first president in a while who had the temerity to be elected rather than appointed by the global elite.

Okay, I don't know if it's true or not -- I assume it isn't -- but there are literally millions of people who believe that McCain and Bush were executed by the Q team for being traitors, and just allowed to save face by fabricating illnesses. Regardless of that, they were at best standard-issue corrupt pols, and anyone who thinks of them as moderate call-it-as-they-see-them centrists, free of both ideology and the influence of special interests, has simply bought the spin of the deep-state-controlled corporate media. They were scoundrels, and one explanation for why they opposed Trump is they knew what would happen to them if he got into office. An awful lot of controlled pols fall into that same category.

Why is Trump good? He is arguably (it still all remains to be seen) a nationalist, an economic populist and a peace monger, as well as someone who continually thumbs his nose at the culture of political correctness. At the most obvious level, Bush and McCain especially were among the biggest war mongers in Washington -- which is really saying something -- and Trump has said all along he's going to end all their little wars. He hasn't started any new ones, so maybe that's a promise that will end up being kept.

Wow. You need to wash your brain. War is a needed evil. Sadly (or not) U.S. is a world policeman, we created this political system and we run it. Yes, not all of the wars are justified, but McCain knew what Russia is all about. Have you been involved with the military like McCain did? Did you fight in any wars? He did. He also served many terms in the government, he traveled the world, he met with many world leaders. He was a very wise old-school republican. He was a true patriot, decorated war hero.
Trump did not serve in the military, he did not have any political experience. Yes, he did not start any outside wars, but he started one inside and it will be much worse. He is using both sides against one another in order to create chaos, while he promises to bring peace if he gets reelected. The thing is that his rule brought this chaos in the first place.
Trump is not a nationalist. If he was he would have actually done something to preserve jobs and actually force companies to transfer production back stateside. Yet nothing had happened. GM closed a few factories in the U.S. under Trump. New Buick Envision will still be made in China and shipped stateside. New GMC Terrain and Chevrolet Equinox are both still made in Mexico. Outsourcing still goes on. Trump promised to get Mexico to pay for the wall. Well, you and I paid for it. His talk is cheap and remember, he is not taking any blame for anything. What a great leader.

Forget deep state and other stupid theories. If you take world politics at its basic core: if we don't dominate it others will. The problem is that Canada, Australia and EU are all too weak and too peaceful to police the world. Their military sucks, their economies are much smaller. China and Russia, on the other hand, are very interested in dominating the world. Except they won't dominate it the way we do. They will use other countries as territories for resources and invest nothing, just look at Chinese expansion in Africa and Russian expansion over annexed lands in Ukraine, Georgia and Moldova. All Russian annexed lands are dirt poor with completely broken economies, thugs running the show. Are there any rich developed countries that are Russian allies? None. And there is a good reason for it.

I agree that political correctness and leftist ideas are going too far in the U.S. right now, but Trump is the one who is making them worse. They are getting stronger because of him.
OK, Trump will break the current system in the U.S. and around the world. What system is going to be there to replace it? Trump has no plan. EU has no plan. Remember, if we are weaker our enemies are stronger. Power vacuum will be filled by our adversaries and no one will benefit from it.

[gsjackson]

OK, I didn't realize you have Ukrainian-Israeli dual citizenship. You sound like the craziest of neocon crazies, but even they don't try to say any more that "we" -- whoever that is -- need to be the world's policeman. You need to familiarize yourself with the latest war-mongering tropes.

I haven't been in a war theater, but between my parents and me we have served in all four branches of the U.S. military. McCain spent all but three months of his only war in the "Hanoi Hilton," and whether or not this was an affliction or a soft berth depends on whom you believe. Meanwhile his father was, along with LBJ, covering up the Israeli attack on the USS Liberty that killed or wounded 234 sailors.

His tenure in the HH didn't dampen McCain's enthusiasm for war -- any and all wars. We know he was pivotal in the formation of ISIS and the de-stabilization of the Middle East. We know he was the key figure in convincing Georgia to invade South Ossetia in 2008.

Your case for Russian aggression, or even expansionist objectives, is preposterous. Even the EU -- no friend to Putin -- concluded that the war in 2008 was caused by Georgia's invasion. Russia simply honored its treaty obligations with South Ossetia and Abkhazia, and sent the aggressors packing. Any presence they may still have there is simply for ensuring it doesn't happen again. South Ossetia, Abkhazia and Transnistra all wanted to be aligned with Russia right from the time of the USSR's breakup. Do you think they should be denied the right of self determination? Crimea too, I suppose, which voted 96 percent to become part of Russia?

The people of the Donbass would become part of Russia in a nano-second if Russia would allow it. To characterize what has gone on there for the last six and a half years as Russian occupation is insulting the intelligence of anyone paying the slightest bit of attention. Why would they not try to break away from a Ukraine that, under the direction of American neocons such as McCain, had just violently overthrown the president they voted for in overwhelming numbers and was now declaring war on Russian culture, including the language? They have fought valiantly on their own to protect their right of self determination, with precious little assistance from Russia -- mainly volunteers from Chechnya.