I'm buying pepper spray

[WanderingProtagonist]

But @Tsar isn't looking to pick a fight. From what I understand, this guy is snorting at Tsar in derision. I am pretty close with Tsar and I know his temperament. Where he does have a temper (much like myself) he doesn't actively look for trouble. For the most part he wants to be left alone like most people do. The pepper spray is for self defence should the guy attack Tsar.

So it isn't trying to be gangster or a badass or anything like that @WanderingProtagonist it's a precaution. And I also don't agree with you @Voyager1 it isn't paranoid delusion. Tsar actually has good intuition and I think he's intelligent enough to realise when someone is looking to pick a fight. I don’t think he is doing anything wrong by being pissed off at someone snorting at him, or by obtaining a means of self defence. I also think you shouldn't take shit from people. If the guy continues being a nob he deserves whatever he gets, especially if he escalates the situation.

I like to think of myself as a bit of a diplomat, so I think @MrMan kind of has the right idea. If it was me I would ask him why he kept snorting at me and taking the piss, or outright demand to know what the f**k his problem is. Maybe grunt back at him, or you could choose to ignore him entirely as though his boarish behaviour is beneath you. You've got the pepper spray, so you're prepared if anything happens. It's always best to behave in a way that your enemies don't expect you to. Then they tend to not know how to respond as they are trying to illicit a certain reaction from you but you act different to what they expect.

Well Tsar can handle it however he wants, like I said I'm staying out of this one. I live in America, not some wussy place like Europe. Up here if you intend to fight someone, we do it with fire arms not pepper spray and batons or BS like MMA.
People in my State die every day over bullshit. I did plenty of fighting in my youth, but as I got older things changed, people change. I'm also over the days of trying to gain respect from people whether its women or other males.

It's a shame that people die over petty stuff. It's much better to just duke it out and have it over and done with. That would be an honourable way to settle a dispute, plus everyone gets to go home albeit a little black and blue. MMA is practical to know so you can defend yourself if someone starts a fight. It's a discipline and supposed to be for self defence and not a tool you can use to go beating everyone up. In my opinion the first thing you should try to sort out a confrontation is a chat, but obviously that won't work with some people.

I said it's BS because most people don't even fight like that, so many people want a reason or excuse to use a gun, so they purposely go out looking to provoke people. This happens a lot at night clubs and bars which is also why some clubs don't like hiring male security because even though they are big in size. Roughing up some guy can lead to him coming back to shoot up the place out of anger which did happen. They feel that women security are less likely to cause a fight to happen because male security will flex by default just to get attention.

[Tsar]

I have thought about starting off calm and diplomatic, but he's irrational. To choose to insult a random person and insult them with dehumanizing or racist connotations in their insult, snorting, and multiple occasions. That's irrational. Such people are not going to respond to diplomacy or reason. Those people only understand the language of force.

They also only take things seriously if they see someone willing to fight back and respond in a more forceful reciprocal manner.

I could have confronted him in the past but I don't take unnecessary risks or enter into a fight that I can't win. I'm Machiavellian so I just await for the perfect time to strike after planning how to respond.

If I went up to him the way that I am, he could snort at me or ignore me or punch me, and I can't win a physical fight. He's a mediocre guy with nothing special about him. He's a low class person and a thuggish brute who works an unskilled job and probably won't ever get any other type of job.

His type of personality, psychological profile, and modus operandi are very easy to determine. I already have him completely analyzed.

I make psychological profiles of almost everyone to engage with people on an individual and personal level, to understand them and their motives, and because I want to be skilled at diplomacy (and war).

People need to know themselves and know others. It's a lesson of the Art of War.

His type of personality will become aggressive. After he snorted at me and I stopped, looked at him for several seconds without redirecting my eyes, he had a smug look and didn't divert his eyes either. I was busy that morning but I was extremely pissed off and when I heard that snort, I decided that I was going to respond the next time he does it until he back downs and shows me respect. I knew his smug look was implying "What are you going to do about me snorting at you?" I don't make moves on other people's set time. I make my moves on my timeline so I am prepared to win. He thinks that I am weak and he's been conditioned to expect he can get amusement from disrespecting me and I will always walk away. He's basically set himself up for defeat because he's so predictable and his type is one of the easiest to analyze.

Blundering Brutes will always lose to the Gracefully Precise because graceful precision always wins.

[MrMan]

If you are going to do this, instead of insulting him, you could try to resolve the conflict, asking why he snorts... if he has some kind of condition he needs help with. You know a doctor or a psychologist who might be able to help.... well, maybe that's a veiled insult. But you could try to make peace by confronting him on his behavior. He might back down if that is the case. You could ask if he is a racist and what he has against Italians. Some people back down when confronted.

A friend of mine was a champion wrestler in high school who also knew martial arts. He became a real estate broker. he put up a sign at a property, and two gangsta youths were standing there, saying they would tear down his sign. he came up close to them and said he knew they wouldn't tear down his sign because he'd kick their a*** if they did. Then they started saying stuff like, "He be okay" trying to deescalate. His opinion was a lot of African American bluster in the hood was just that, bluster, and they back down if you call them on it.

lol bluster my ass, Not all black communities are the same either. If he was in Oakland, Chicago or Detroit
it would have ended quite differently, they don't call those places the murder capitols for nothing.
Oh well. I'll just stay out of this.

Well, we was a wrestler and martial artist. His father was one of the founders of a branch of special forces and trained him. I don't know if he was carrying or not. And this was quite a while back.

[MrMan]

@Tsar How do you know this guy isn't mentally ill or mentally retarded? How do you know he doesn't have Tourette Syndrome and that he doesn't go around snorting at people all over the place.

I was on my bike one time riding somewhere, and this guy in the street was hurling profanities at me. It turns out, he just cussed all the time like that. He was probably crazy. I wouldn't be surprised if he got beat up by passerby's from time to time.

[Lucas88]

How one should react in a situation like this really depends on the circumstances.

If some common bully insults you or mocks you in some way, then I think that the best thing you can do is walk right up to that guy, look him in the eyes and ask him with an air of confidence what his problem is. Most of the time the bully will back down once he realizes that you aren't afraid and are willing to fight him. Most common bullies don't really want to fight anybody who can fight back. They simply enjoy intimidating others and feeling tough and dominant but don't have the balls to actually fight when confronted. If you ask the bully what his problem is and he pussies out and backs down, then you win the psychological war. If the bully doesn't back down and continues to insult or mock you, then just fight him. Beat some respect into him. Confront the bully while he's alone and in a place without witnesses for in case a fight ensues.

If you are disrespected in a dangerous neighborhood full of hood rat types and where many people carry weapons, you might just have to keep your head down and not respond. Any tough guy shit could get you killed. Such neighborhoods are places to avoid anyway. You want to stay well clear of people like that. Leave those fools to kill each other over "honor", "respect" and gang affiliation. Look to stay alive.

[Tsar]

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Why are you trying to pull any sort of random idea to try to portray a thug as innocent? I know...you are trying to make me feel sympathy for a thug because it's "turn the other cheek."

Trash like him are thugs.

He doesn't do it at anyone else. The first time he did it, I walked on the same sidewalk as he was and he didn't want to move so I walked close to him to continue on the path. Then, he snorts, to insult me.

A week or ten days later, he sees me again, and many people are walking the street. He only snorts when he sees me.

@MrMan I think you are just openly antagonizing me at this point because I offended the Jewish God, criticized some aspects of Abrahamic Religion, and because I believe Jews are the enemy. Message me on PM instead of trying to use veiled insults in your comments and passive aggression.

[MrMan]

@Tsar I am not trying to antagonize you.

[Tsar]

@Tsar I am not trying to antagonize you.

Ok, that's good to know. A certain previous member said that he thinks that I imagined it. The thug is just a bully. This is the adult world and a bully in the adult world better be prepared for a fight if they bully the wrong person.

[Voyager1]

Why do you always want to provoke me and antagonize me? Why do you always want to be my enemy?

You are always trying to create drama on the forum. I am sure that this man who is stalking you only exists in your mind.

I have lived all over Eastern Europe and never experienced this problem. I have never had someone wait for me outside my apartment.

Don't you have something better to do with your time? Do something productive.

[Tsar]

Why do you always want to provoke me and antagonize me? Why do you always want to be my enemy?

You are always trying to create drama on the forum. I am sure that this man who is stalking you only exists in your mind.

I have lived all over Eastern Europe and never experienced this problem. I have never had someone wait for me outside my apartment.

Don't you have something better to do with your time? Do something productive.

I am walking down a street.

He's a low-wage worker.

He's an irrational racist who probably profiled me wrong.

You apparently just read nothing and ignore everything that I said. But like I said before, I will be snapping photos of him, his car, and if he wants to start a fight with me then I am going to defend myself and teach him not to mess with me.

Again, I want to know why you always to antagonize me? Give me a legitimate reason why you antagonize me.

[Voyager1]

I will be snapping photos of him, his car, and if he wants to start a fight with me then I am going to defend myself and teach him not to mess with me.

Prove it. Post them here. He is not going to check this forum. Even if he does so what.

If he is harassing you then snap a photo of his license plate and go to the police. Maybe the police won't do anything but at least they will have your complaint on file.

It makes no sense to do vigilante justice as you have suggested in this thread. You could get locked up or who knows this guy may have a knife. Just use common sense and avoid confrontation.

[Lucas88]

You are always trying to create drama on the forum.

Why do you only ever seem to come out of the woodwork when there is drama on the forum?

I am sure that this man who is stalking you only exists in your mind.

I have lived all over Eastern Europe and never experienced this problem. I have never had someone wait for me outside my apartment.

Don't you have something better to do with your time? Do something productive.

Is it really so inconceivable that a bully with whom Tsar frequently crosses paths could try to provoke him? Encounters with bullies aren't so uncommon. Bullies target those whom they consider weak. Since Tsar is only about 5'6", has a small build and looks Italian he is theoretically an easy target. Just because you didn't experience bullying in Eastern Europe doesn't mean that it doesn't happen.

But Tsar is not going to take it. What kind of man would?

[MrMan]

If Tsar had said he was going to verbally confront a man who kept rudely snorting at him on the street every day, and have some pepper spray on hand in case things went bad, as opposed to the 'bwahaha' revenge style posts at the beginning, reactions might have been different.

[WanderingProtagonist]

I will be snapping photos of him, his car, and if he wants to start a fight with me then I am going to defend myself and teach him not to mess with me.

Prove it. Post them here. He is not going to check this forum. Even if he does so what.

If he is harassing you then snap a photo of his license plate and go to the police. Maybe the police won't do anything but at least they will have your complaint on file.

It makes no sense to do vigilante justice as you have suggested in this thread. You could get locked up or who knows this guy may have a knife. Just use common sense and avoid confrontation.

If you have nothing nice to say to Tsar, try saying nothing. We're just trying to encourage him in his desire to stand up for himself for once in his life. His life has been pretty rough so far and he's tired of people walking all over him, pushing him around, disrespecting him. So this is his moment to make a stand, to bravely defend himself and his honor. If you cannot respect his act of self-determination, you're not worthy of conversing with Tsar, clearly. Those of us who are his friends are on his side on this, we root for him. I hope he teaches that bully a lesson he will never forget!

How is what he said was not nice? I didn't see him insult or attack Tsar, he gave him sound advice.
I hope for Tsar sake he's just dealing with a runt he's not capable of dealing with in a sensible fashion.
All of this sounds like an incel issue. I had a lot more to say on this matter but I'm just talking to the wind at this point.
I've dealt with bullies since I was 10 years old but always tried to avoid and minimize conflict as much as possible.
Today we live in a world where all you have to do is insult the wrong person and they'll nuke your country to hell...
Way too many overly sensitive males these days that get hurt verbally enough to want to fight or even kill someone over it.
Incel these days thrive off having confrontations, but being sexually frustrated and shit is no excuse for any of it. I'm sexually frustrated myself but wtf is fighting going to do to fix it? I land in jail in Murica and I get the joy of dealing with males in jail trying to rape me twice my size I stand no chance up against, yes sounds like the paradise life I want to live.

Tsar honestly has shit impossible standards for the type of girls he want therefore will remain alone for the rest of his life, angry, bitter, and feeling hostile all the time, and I've even heard him call men losers for going for 24 year olds or 30 year old
women. Whatever he's dealing with, I hope nobody gets severely hurt if it does lead to serious conflict. I've struggled most of my life with bullies, but at the age of 36 I don't deal with such BS anymore from people. As for verbal insults I dealt with them for years but never responded back because if you respond back to verbal insult, that's just asking for it to become confrontational, and some people create these situations for themselves then wind up dead somewhere being dumber than the person insulting them. If a confrontational happens that's out of your control then yes you have to defend yourself or become victimized if you don't. But just looking for excuses to engage people or hoping one leads to it because you feel frustrated, etc. This doesn't help the frustrated individual what so ever.

[Tsar]

I will be snapping photos of him, his car, and if he wants to start a fight with me then I am going to defend myself and teach him not to mess with me.

Prove it. Post them here. He is not going to check this forum. Even if he does so what.

If he is harassing you then snap a photo of his license plate and go to the police. Maybe the police won't do anything but at least they will have your complaint on file.

It makes no sense to do vigilante justice as you have suggested in this thread. You could get locked up or who knows this guy may have a knife. Just use common sense and avoid confrontation.

If you have nothing nice to say to Tsar, try saying nothing. We're just trying to encourage him in his desire to stand up for himself for once in his life. His life has been pretty rough so far and he's tired of people walking all over him, pushing him around, disrespecting him. So this is his moment to make a stand, to bravely defend himself and his honor. If you cannot respect his act of self-determination, you're not worthy of conversing with Tsar, clearly. Those of us who are his friends are on his side on this, we root for him. I hope he teaches that bully a lesson he will never forget!

How is what he said was not nice? I didn't see him insult or attack Tsar, he gave him sound advice.
I hope for Tsar sake he's just dealing with a runt he's not capable of dealing with in a sensible fashion.
All of this sounds like an incel issue. I had a lot more to say on this matter but I'm just talking to the wind at this point.
I've dealt with bullies since I was 10 years old but always tried to avoid and minimize conflict as much as possible.
Today we live in a world where all you have to do is insult the wrong person and they'll nuke your country to hell...
Way too many overly sensitive males these days that get hurt verbally enough to want to fight or even kill someone over it.
Incel these days thrive off having confrontations, but being sexually frustrated and shit is no excuse for any of it. I'm sexually frustrated myself but wtf is fighting going to do to fix it? I land in jail in Murica and I get the joy of dealing with males in jail trying to rape me twice my size I stand no chance up against, yes sounds like the paradise life I want to live.

Tsar honestly has shit impossible standards for the type of girls he want therefore will remain alone for the rest of his life, angry, bitter, and feeling hostile all the time, and I've even heard him call men losers for going for 24 year olds or 30 year old
women. Whatever he's dealing with, I hope nobody gets severely hurt if it does lead to serious conflict. I've struggled most of my life with bullies, but at the age of 36 I don't deal with such BS anymore from people. As for verbal insults I dealt with them for years but never responded back because if you respond back to verbal insult, that's just asking for it to become confrontational, and some people create these situations for themselves then wind up dead somewhere being dumber than the person insulting them. If a confrontational happens that's out of your control then yes you have to defend yourself or become victimized if you don't. But just looking for excuses to engage people or hoping one leads to it because you feel frustrated, etc. This doesn't help the frustrated individual what so ever.

You're misrepresenting me, understating the entire situation, trivializing things, promoting weakness, and probably unhappy to see men who are willing to actually exhibit what it means to be a man and display assertiveness.

You don't like men who have true strength and a warrior spirit.

I don't look for fights or start them. I am not an Incel.

I am also not overly sensitive. I was willing to overlook him snorting the first time it happened. Second time, I decided that he's done, and I'm going to really teach him a lesson if he does it again. Third time, if he snorts at me, I am going to be humiliating him and insulting him much worse, and if he wants to get physical, I will pepper spray him and maybe baton his arm if he tries to throw a punch.

My standards are what any self-respecting and dignified man would want.

I know what you're problem is. You're a weak man and a pushover. You don't exhibit any qualities that a female would respect in a man.

I'm also not an Incel. I have ghosted a girl when I was a teenager because she had red flags which meant she wasn't traditional and her background wasn't the best. I also rejected a girl this year because I don't do hookups and she had many red flags. I don't care about being with girls just to have one and I wouldn't have sex with a girl just to get sex.

Also, if you're the type of man who continuously ignores provocations then you're a mouse. You're not a real man.

You've been completely emasculated by American society, modern culture, feminism, and Slave Values.

Slave Values is turning the other cheek again and again. If someone continues to provoke something, you do nothing then neither girls or guys will respect you.

Powerful people and Chads and anyone who demonstrates a Warrior Spirit will get girls because they command respect. People who are timid, meek, weak, or with Slave Values wouldn't ever get respect.

You've given me enough to work with in other threads and this thread to get a perfect psychological profile.

A weak wretch content to accept his miserable lot in life and live a pathetic existence as forced upon him by the system and willing to accept to be dehumanized or looked down upon. You command no respect with your sort of personality and existence. Even if you get a girl, you'll be raising weak sons because you wouldn't have the qualities of a strong man or a warrior.

I'm tired of your disgraceful weak values and trying to attack my Warrior Spirit because you want other men to be just as weak as you are and tear them down to your level.

You're calling my standards in girls impossible because when I succeed, it will prove that I defied the system and that it's not impossible.

The next time that Eastern European man who snorts at me does it, he's going to be taught a lesson. He will never provoke me or insult me again. I am going to teach him to respect me and hopefully teach him to respect everyone else. Next week is going to be an enjoyable weak for me because I will gain an important victory. The victory of demonstrating my superiority and displaying my Warrior Spirit!