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Uh.. I didn't realize this thread was about Tsar's own struggles..
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Homeless
Step 1- Live in your car
Step 2- Get a gym membership to do your showering
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Jonny Law wrote: ↑
January 17th, 2023, 8:10 am
Homeless
Step 1- Live in your car
Step 2- Get a gym membership to do your showering
Living in your car sucks. You will never get a good night's sleep not to mention it's dangerous depending on the neighborhood.

Tsar has no car at the moment. @Tsar have you tried CouchSurfing or BeWelcome? This is where you can camp out on someone's couch for free.
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Poor Tsar.. :-(. Where is he now? Bulgaria?
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Jonny Law wrote: ↑
January 17th, 2023, 8:10 am
Homeless
Step 1- Live in your car
Step 2- Get a gym membership to do your showering
1. I don't own a car and can't own a car.
2. I don't shower in the presence of other men. If I shower, it's solo, unless I had a girlfriend.
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Natural_Born_Cynic wrote: ↑
January 17th, 2023, 8:36 am
Poor Tsar.. :-(. Where is he now? Bulgaria?
I'll tell everyone where I am soon. I'll make a post about it.
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Cornfed wrote: ↑
January 14th, 2023, 4:54 pm
Mercury wrote: ↑
January 13th, 2023, 10:24 pm
Tsar wrote: ↑
January 13th, 2023, 2:42 pm
Imagine you run out of money and are homeless. Would you kill yourself at that point? Seriously, how could you even escape something like that?
If I ever became homeless, I'd head straight for the Mexico border.
But how would you actually survive as a homeless person in Mexico?
The same as anywhere else. Except in Mexico, not only will the cops generally not bother you, but because of the tropical climate on Mexico's east coast and Yucatan Peninsula, you can eat coconuts, mangos, find a disused plot of land and grow your own food. In much of the USA and all of Canada, you can't do that because the climate is prohibitive to gardening. Also, once you get evicted in the USA, you have nothing to lose by going to Mexico, Costa Rica, Brazil, Colombia, or Peru.
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Natural_Born_Cynic wrote: ↑
January 16th, 2023, 9:17 am

I don't get it, why not San Francisco? Much cheaper plane ticket, California is a liberal state, and San Francisco provide good government & local benefits for homeless people. Plus the homeless can supplement their income by stealing everything they need in stores. Remember, shoplifting up to $950 is a misdemeanor. The shop employees can't stop you or they get fired by the store, they can report you nevertheless, the police will let you go even if you get caught and the prosecutor won't even bother to investigate your case.
Because even in San Francisco, the FBI and Homeland Security will arrest you for sleeping on the sidewalk. Same with Los Angeles and San Diego.
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MrMan wrote: ↑
January 14th, 2023, 5:16 pm


Federal laws do not typically delve into this level of crime. Murder is not a federal crime, typically, unless it is a federal official. There may be some laws governing the military and seaways that are not under any state. But typically, murder is the domain of the state.
Murder most certainly IS a Federal crime! Credit card fraud is a Federal crime. Statutory rape is a Federal crime. Contributing to the delinquency of a minor is a Federal crime. Kidnapping is a Federal crime. Possession of cocaine is a Federal crime. Child pornography is a Federal crime. Terrorism is a Federal crime.
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Mercury wrote: ↑
January 22nd, 2023, 4:36 pm
Cornfed wrote: ↑
January 14th, 2023, 4:54 pm
Mercury wrote: ↑
January 13th, 2023, 10:24 pm
Tsar wrote: ↑
January 13th, 2023, 2:42 pm
Imagine you run out of money and are homeless. Would you kill yourself at that point? Seriously, how could you even escape something like that?
If I ever became homeless, I'd head straight for the Mexico border.
But how would you actually survive as a homeless person in Mexico?
The same as anywhere else. Except in Mexico, not only will the cops generally not bother you, but because of the tropical climate on Mexico's east coast and Yucatan Peninsula, you can eat coconuts, mangos, find a disused plot of land and grow your own food. In much of the USA and all of Canada, you can't do that because the climate is prohibitive to gardening. Also, once you get evicted in the USA, you have nothing to lose by going to Mexico, Costa Rica, Brazil, Colombia, or Peru.
Elsewhere you would get welfare. I suspect if you were conspicuously poor and white in various areas you would incur police problems and be deported at some point. I guess everyone knows that not all of Mexico is tropical. You might be right, but I'm hoping I don't end up homeless in Mexico.
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Pixel--Dude wrote: ↑
January 13th, 2023, 11:40 pm
Mercury wrote: ↑
January 13th, 2023, 10:24 pm
Tsar wrote: ↑
January 13th, 2023, 2:42 pm
Imagine you run out of money and are homeless. Would you kill yourself at that point? Seriously, how could you even escape something like that?
If I ever became homeless, I'd head straight for the Mexico border.

Homelessness is illegal under Federal law in the United States of America. Every day and night, hundreds of homeless people sleeping under bridges, overpasses, on sidewalks, and even in forest preserves are arrested by the FBI and Homeland Security and are taken straight to Federal lockup, with many of them ending up sentenced to decades in prison. They are locked up with the serial killers, child predators, robbers, burglars, and violent felons.

In Mexico, the police don't generally harass homeless people like that. In Mexico, homeless people don't usually go to jail for sleeping under a bridge, in a forest preserve, or in a tent city.
Is this true? If what you're saying is true then that is f***ing awful! A testament to how f***ing disgusting this current system is!
It's very true. Homelessness is a Federal crime in the United States of America. Punishable by up to 90 years in prison.
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Mercury wrote: ↑
January 22nd, 2023, 4:39 pm
Natural_Born_Cynic wrote: ↑
January 16th, 2023, 9:17 am

I don't get it, why not San Francisco? Much cheaper plane ticket, California is a liberal state, and San Francisco provide good government & local benefits for homeless people. Plus the homeless can supplement their income by stealing everything they need in stores. Remember, shoplifting up to $950 is a misdemeanor. The shop employees can't stop you or they get fired by the store, they can report you nevertheless, the police will let you go even if you get caught and the prosecutor won't even bother to investigate your case.
Because even in San Francisco, the FBI and Homeland Security will arrest you for sleeping on the sidewalk. Same with Los Angeles and San Diego.
Uh.. no they don't. Even the cops can't do anything about the homeless problem in San Francisco, LA and San Diego.
WTF is the FBI and Homeland Security gonna do? It's not within their jurisdiction.
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Natural_Born_Cynic wrote: ↑
January 22nd, 2023, 7:18 pm
Mercury wrote: ↑
January 22nd, 2023, 4:39 pm
Natural_Born_Cynic wrote: ↑
January 16th, 2023, 9:17 am

I don't get it, why not San Francisco? Much cheaper plane ticket, California is a liberal state, and San Francisco provide good government & local benefits for homeless people. Plus the homeless can supplement their income by stealing everything they need in stores. Remember, shoplifting up to $950 is a misdemeanor. The shop employees can't stop you or they get fired by the store, they can report you nevertheless, the police will let you go even if you get caught and the prosecutor won't even bother to investigate your case.
Because even in San Francisco, the FBI and Homeland Security will arrest you for sleeping on the sidewalk. Same with Los Angeles and San Diego.
Uh.. no they don't. Even the cops can't do anything about the homeless problem in San Francisco, LA and San Diego.
WTF is the FBI and Homeland Security gonna do? It's not within their jurisdiction.
When the FBI and Homeland Security arrest homeless people for sleeping on the sidewalk, they take them to Federal lockup. They also can take you to the local county jail and contact the local/county law enforcement in regards to the situation. The entire United States of America, all 50 states and DC, along with every single county, city, and metropolitan area in each state, is within the jurisdiction of the FBI, the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, the U.S. Marshals, and even the U.S. Army National Guard and military.
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Mercury wrote: ↑
January 23rd, 2023, 1:33 am
Natural_Born_Cynic wrote: ↑
January 22nd, 2023, 7:18 pm
Mercury wrote: ↑
January 22nd, 2023, 4:39 pm
Natural_Born_Cynic wrote: ↑
January 16th, 2023, 9:17 am

I don't get it, why not San Francisco? Much cheaper plane ticket, California is a liberal state, and San Francisco provide good government & local benefits for homeless people. Plus the homeless can supplement their income by stealing everything they need in stores. Remember, shoplifting up to $950 is a misdemeanor. The shop employees can't stop you or they get fired by the store, they can report you nevertheless, the police will let you go even if you get caught and the prosecutor won't even bother to investigate your case.
Because even in San Francisco, the FBI and Homeland Security will arrest you for sleeping on the sidewalk. Same with Los Angeles and San Diego.
Uh.. no they don't. Even the cops can't do anything about the homeless problem in San Francisco, LA and San Diego.
WTF is the FBI and Homeland Security gonna do? It's not within their jurisdiction.
When the FBI and Homeland Security arrest homeless people for sleeping on the sidewalk, they take them to Federal lockup. They also can take you to the local county jail and contact the local/county law enforcement in regards to the situation. The entire United States of America, all 50 states and DC, along with every single county, city, and metropolitan area in each state, is within the jurisdiction of the FBI, the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, the U.S. Marshals, and even the U.S. Army National Guard and military.
Do you have any news articles on the FBI arresting people for being homeless or sleeping on the street? Have you seen it yourself? Or is this another one of your dystopian lies?

In general, sleeping on the sidewalk is nit going to violate a ___federal___ law.
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Tsar wrote: ↑
January 13th, 2023, 2:42 pm
Imagine you run out of money and are homeless. Would you kill yourself at that point? Seriously, how could you even escape something like that?
I think this depends on the individual and his or her situation BEFORE running out of money and being homeless.

I will surely not kill myself but try to sort it out quickly.

It is not possible for me to run totally out of money as I receive a good monthly retirement allowance and have medical insurance up to end of life, but about being homeless unexpected is not impossible, for example facing suddenly a strong earthquake or fire or landslide .....

I cannot be kicked out from my present home as I am the owner and have no payment obligation like a loan of the condominium unit in Japan and same also with the other one in Thailand, but it is not impossible that they might be damaged somehow and it is impossible to live there any longer.

My wife and I have family members living in other areas in Japan and we have frequent contact with them, we will just ask them to help us with some money and accommodation for a while until we can regulate our situation.
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