America offers NOTHING except Work, Shopping, & Social Isolation. So why stay there?!

[MrMan]

This guy cornball and the Chinese poop bear suffer from the same malady. Delusions of grandeur. Dude, life isn't fair. Some people get all the breaks, others get none.

You seem to have lost to plot and not have the ability to fucus on a point of discussion. The point you made was that America was geared towards people of talent, which is silly. The fact that affirmative action is a thing at all proves this is not the case. Hence the point you made is wrong, QED. Of course there are many other things that prove your silly point is wrong. It is very simple. You are now talking about irrelevant things such as life not being fair, as if that has any bearing on anything. Maybe you could get someone at your end to help you with your posts so you don't further embarrass yourself.

Lol, I like how you conveniently omitted the fact that "white" people or anyone else are not losing employment or college admissions positions due to affirmative action, and that if you had talent, you WOULD be in demand. You are plainly insane if you insist on reiterating something that has already been disproven.

A university HR staff member at a university told me that if you choose to hire a minority to increase the diversity of the university that need not be viewed as discrimination, but as hiring in favor of more diversity. An example of this would be, all else being equal, hiring a black woman over a white man.

But overall, I would think affirmative action (and that example is not affirmative action per se) accounts for a very small percentage of hires these days.

[Cornfed]

Lol, I like how you conveniently omitted the fact that "white" people or anyone else are not losing employment or college admissions positions due to affirmative action, and that if you had talent, you WOULD be in demand.

How do you know? Lets take the Biden Administration as an example. Where would a talented person who wasn't an evil hand-rubbing Jew fit in there in your view?

[GerardButler]

Lol, I like how you conveniently omitted the fact that "white" people or anyone else are not losing employment or college admissions positions due to affirmative action, and that if you had talent, you WOULD be in demand. You are plainly insane if you insist on reiterating something that has already been disproven.

If white people weren't losing employment because of affirmative action, there would be no affirmative action.

Lol, only if there were fewer opportunities and positions available. In America, companies have more vacancies than they can cover. Where did you get the idea that America was a shrinking economy? There are plumbers and Dorman making over $150,000 a year.

[GerardButler]

Lol, I like how you conveniently omitted the fact that "white" people or anyone else are not losing employment or college admissions positions due to affirmative action, and that if you had talent, you WOULD be in demand.

How do you know? Lets take the Biden Administration as an example. Where would a talented person who wasn't an evil hand-rubbing Jew fit in there in your view?

Someone with genuine talent would likely be on Wall Street or working in sales in the Bay Area, not in a low-paying government position lol. $120k is the lower bound for tech jobs in the Bay Area. This salary is attainable even in support roles. Job titles include Customer Support Engineer, Technical Account Manager, Solutions Engineer, Solutions Consultant, Integrations Engineer, etc. If you're somewhat technical, but more of a people person, then these jobs can be a better fit.

Product Managers make around $200k+. These jobs are much harder to get since there's a lot of competition. This is also one of the only tracks that has a career ladder to Director of Product, VP of Product, etc. Get to that level, and you start making $300k - $400k and higher.

Software engineer salaries vary, but at top tier companies, they can make $350k - 400k. Lower tiers $200k - 300k. Entry level at smaller companies can be much lower, maybe $120k - 150k.

Salespeople are often in the same range as engineering or higher, but it's based on commission, so that can vary wildly depending on the company and territory.

Sales Engineers make $150k - 250k. This varies pretty wildly based on how technical the product is, and the commission component.

Another thing is that Engineering and Product work in levels. Level 4, level 5, etc. When you level up, you make more money. Engineers have the most liquid skill set, so they jump back and forth between big companies, often after big portions of their stock have vested, and they sometimes level up in the process. Leveling up is easier to do in the Bay. For Engineering and Product, a lot of their compensation is often in stock grants which vest over four years. So some of the big run-ups in compensation are due to the public and private markets, which have been in a bull market for the past 10 years.

All my associates are millionaires in their 40s.

[Cornfed]

Someone with genuine talent would likely be on Wall Street or working in sales in the Bay Area

No, they get passed over in favor of talentless morons of the sort that Elon just fired.

[GerardButler]

Someone with genuine talent would likely be on Wall Street or working in sales in the Bay Area

No, they get passed over in favor of talentless morons of the sort that Elon just fired.

Again, this is founded on what? The US unemployment rate for experienced engineers is approximately 1%. That means anyone with an ounce of talent gets hired.

[Cornfed]

Someone with genuine talent would likely be on Wall Street or working in sales in the Bay Area

No, they get passed over in favor of talentless morons of the sort that Elon just fired.

Again, this is founded on what? The US unemployment rate for experienced engineers is approximately 1%. That means anyone with an ounce of talent gets hired.

That means they are not counting all the unemployed engineers as unemployed. Maybe they are really not unemployed and are working at Walmart or teaching English in Korea or something. You would need to actually investigate the situation.

[Outcast9428]

This guy cornball and the Chinese poop bear suffer from the same malady. Delusions of grandeur. Dude, life isn't fair. Some people get all the breaks, others get none.

You seem to have lost to plot and not have the ability to fucus on a point of discussion. The point you made was that America was geared towards people of talent, which is silly. The fact that affirmative action is a thing at all proves this is not the case. Hence the point you made is wrong, QED. Of course there are many other things that prove your silly point is wrong. It is very simple. You are now talking about irrelevant things such as life not being fair, as if that has any bearing on anything. Maybe you could get someone at your end to help you with your posts so you don't further embarrass yourself.

Lol, I like how you conveniently omitted the fact that "white" people or anyone else are not losing employment or college admissions positions due to affirmative action, and that if you had talent, you WOULD be in demand. You are plainly insane if you insist on reiterating something that has already been disproven.

A university HR staff member at a university told me that if you choose to hire a minority to increase the diversity of the university that need not be viewed as discrimination, but as hiring in favor of more diversity. An example of this would be, all else being equal, hiring a black woman over a white man.

But overall, I would think affirmative action (and that example is not affirmative action per se) accounts for a very small percentage of hires these days.

If it wasn’t a big deal then the left wouldn’t be losing their shit at the thought of affirmative action being destroyed.

[GerardButler]

Someone with genuine talent would likely be on Wall Street or working in sales in the Bay Area

No, they get passed over in favor of talentless morons of the sort that Elon just fired.

Again, this is founded on what? The US unemployment rate for experienced engineers is approximately 1%. That means anyone with an ounce of talent gets hired.

That means they are not counting all the unemployed engineers as unemployed. Maybe they are really not unemployed and are working at Walmart or teaching English in Korea or something. You would need to actually investigate the situation.

This doesn't really apply to white-collar workers, even engineers. They are highly sought after. In fact, they are in such high demand that businesses have opened overseas shops in countries like Ukraine and Poland. Why work at Walmart or teach English when you can make $10,000 in one month by pushing around a mouse, typing fast and using Google search. That's 85% of what most tech engineers do.

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-styl ... 07971.html

[Cornfed]

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-styl ... 07971.html

The article you linked demonstrates the opposite of what you said. Talented people are not sought after. Talentless affirmative action skanks are.

[GerardButler]

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-styl ... 07971.html

The article you linked demonstrates the opposite of what you said. Talented people are not sought after. Talentless affirmative action skanks are.

Nah, talented people don't want to sit around doing nothing.

https://www.businessinsider.com/google- ... ois-2023-3

[MrMan]

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-styl ... 07971.html

The article you linked demonstrates the opposite of what you said. Talented people are not sought after. Talentless affirmative action skanks are.

Where does it say that she was hired through an affirmative action program. Even if they hired her because she was a black woman, that doesn't mean it was through affirmative action.

[Cornfed]

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-styl ... 07971.html

The article you linked demonstrates the opposite of what you said. Talented people are not sought after. Talentless affirmative action skanks are.

Nah, talented people don't want to sit around doing nothing.

https://www.businessinsider.com/google- ... ois-2023-3

Which is consistent with the fact that they are hiring talentless morons rather than talented people.

[fschmidt]

Someone with genuine talent would likely be on Wall Street or working in sales in the Bay Area

No, they get passed over in favor of talentless morons of the sort that Elon just fired.

Again, this is founded on what? The US unemployment rate for experienced engineers is approximately 1%. That means anyone with an ounce of talent gets hired.

Actually Cornfed isn't quite right. Being a moron isn't the requirement. The main requirement is being vile human scum, the more evil the better. The Bay Area is pure evil. They don't care about talent or intelligence, they only care about evil. Any talented decent person who writes good code can't possibly get a job there. I know the Bay Area well. It used to be about talent, and I co-founded a $1B company there back then. But it has changed, and today I couldn't get a job in McDonalds there. Anyone who works in the Bay Area today or has business connections there must be vile scum, because that is the requirement.

[Outcast9428]

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-styl ... 07971.html

The article you linked demonstrates the opposite of what you said. Talented people are not sought after. Talentless affirmative action skanks are.

Where does it say that she was hired through an affirmative action program. Even if they hired her because she was a black woman, that doesn't mean it was through affirmative action.

If a Black woman was hired by a tech firm, the chances are pretty good it was because of affirmative action. Women in general struggle with tech work but Blacks have an average of 15 fewer IQ points then White people do so it’s almost certainly the case that a Black woman got it through affirmative action. Affirmative action is not just racial preferences either but gives preferences to women too so being a Black woman is a double advantage.