Am I paranoid for thinking that western Europe.....

[PrisonerOfLife]

...is a complete waste of time as far as dating abroad is concerned? I am speaking specifically of countries including UK, Germany, Sweden, Denmark when I make this comparison. These countries seem to exhibit the exact same cultural phenomena that is cultivated in the USA: partying, binge drinking in bars, obsession with technology, mindless industrialism, and materialism. The laws may be slightly more friendly towards men compared to the states, but I believe the predominantly white countries are shifting towards the feminist paradigm which seeks to create disharmony among the sexes.

From what I can tell it seems like South America and Asia are far better venues for men seeking women, simply because they are far more remote from the clutches from feminism and they use patriarchy to the benefit of both sexes.

Am I off base here? Has anyone had experience with both European and non-Anglo expatting?

[Adama]

You certainly dont want to bother with the UK. The culture is nearly identical.

The Western EU women are much less feminist than their Anglophone counterparts, and short term relationships with them are infinitely easier to obtain. If you want a quality woman for marriage, family and all the traditional values, you will have to search very hard in Western EU, except perhaps southern Italy (only from rumor, not experience or direct observation on my part).

If you already have money or an income stream, you should probably forget about western countries. If you need to work and have credentials and language abilities, then Western EU makes more sense. Then again maybe you can get a decent job in the developing world.

[polya]

...is a complete waste of time as far as dating abroad is concerned? I am speaking specifically of countries including UK, Germany, Sweden, Denmark when I make this comparison. These countries seem to exhibit the exact same cultural phenomena that is cultivated in the USA: partying, binge drinking in bars, obsession with technology, mindless industrialism, and materialism. The laws may be slightly more friendly towards men compared to the states, but I believe the predominantly white countries are shifting towards the feminist paradigm which seeks to create disharmony among the sexes.

From what I can tell it seems like South America and Asia are far better venues for men seeking women, simply because they are far more remote from the clutches from feminism and they use patriarchy to the benefit of both sexes.

Am I off base here? Has anyone had experience with both European and non-Anglo expatting?

You are right-on. Western Europe is a waste of time for men. Not to mention hight cost of living, visa problems for non-EU guys & language barriers. You should go there on holiday & see for yourself.

[OzGuy]

Yes, except for Germany. German women are awesome!

[PeterAndrewNolan]

POL,
Sweden and Norway and UK should be struck off your list in any attempt at dating. Italian women are also very questionable as far as I have heard.

German women?

Quite a few men who are MRA types do complain about german women. A friend of mine came here to say specifically that.

I, personally, have never had a problem with a german woman but I have also never dated one. I did date an italian born woman who grew up in germany and she was the ONLY woman I have had a minor problem with while in Germany.

I have a rule. They are born and raise in the former communist countries. This means 30+. I have noticed the younger women from the east are more materialistic than women just 10 years older than them. I am 48 so 30+ is quite acceptable to me. The younger crowd of women do not have anything to talk about.

I have praised women from the east so much even women from the east think I am too excessive in my praise of them compared to the english speaking world.

The nicest woman I met was czech. I know a number of czech women and they are REALLY nice women. But mind you, I know one who was absolutely terrific to me but she openly told me how she despised betas and told me stories of how she emotionally abused betas just to see them squirm and try and be even nicer to them to win her heart. That is what women do to betas. They hate betas. They LIKE to abuse betas just to see them squirm....my wife was like that.

ALMOST EVERY WOMAN in the world will abuse you and disrespect you if you are a beta.

Even my fav#1 was dis-respectful of me and dissed me as soon as I let on how much I really liked her and knew I was not going to be killed after my court appearance. I was still a beta smuck loser provider then.....so I dissed her back and that made her VERY angry but she then competed for my attention. Simple.

[djfourmoney]

Do you really want a woman that romanticizes about the Soviet Union?

Peter are you a Beta? IE: of no use around the house? You claim to defy Government so I wouldn't call you Beta. However if all you're good for is taking up space and earning money, unless you want to bore a woman to tears, of course being just a nice guy will get you dissed to a certain point.

Women from former Eastern Bloc countries want Men in the classical sense.

I don't know what type of women you're running into Peter, but yes you can't be nice for the sake of being nice to these women. They don't know anything about being in a somewhat orderly society that you find in Western world. Its just what they know and it doesn't change overnight.

That said, you should find more worldly and mature women than your #1

[designer]

A Romanian woman I knew who used me once would go on hour long rants about how great the Soviet era was in her country and how she wished it would return. Despite this kind of talk she was a total golddigger and measured men by the size of their wallet. Her and her entire family (typical for Romania) look to the bf to fund and provide them with free cash. I do not judge eastern women but I questions them. I'd say one out of every 10 is a gem. The rest tend to be quite low and all about the money. I have a soft spot for Russian women but only if she is humble and kind.

[momopi]

...is a complete waste of time as far as dating abroad is concerned? I am speaking specifically of countries including UK, Germany, Sweden, Denmark when I make this comparison. These countries seem to exhibit the exact same cultural phenomena that is cultivated in the USA: partying, binge drinking in bars, obsession with technology, mindless industrialism, and materialism. The laws may be slightly more friendly towards men compared to the states, but I believe the predominantly white countries are shifting towards the feminist paradigm which seeks to create disharmony among the sexes.
From what I can tell it seems like South America and Asia are far better venues for men seeking women, simply because they are far more remote from the clutches from feminism and they use patriarchy to the benefit of both sexes.
Am I off base here? Has anyone had experience with both European and non-Anglo expatting?

1. Have you actually been to Western Europe?

2. You have an unhealthy preoccupation with feminism. As one women once said, if there were only 3 decent guys to choose from, she'd be married already. Things like supply/demand and socio-economic factors tend to out-weight ideology.

3. Like women in the Western world, women in Latin America and Asia comes with their own set of issues. These are not the kind of things that can be taught with hearsay, you need to experience it to truely understand.

[djfourmoney]

...is a complete waste of time as far as dating abroad is concerned? I am speaking specifically of countries including UK, Germany, Sweden, Denmark when I make this comparison. These countries seem to exhibit the exact same cultural phenomena that is cultivated in the USA: partying, binge drinking in bars, obsession with technology, mindless industrialism, and materialism. The laws may be slightly more friendly towards men compared to the states, but I believe the predominantly white countries are shifting towards the feminist paradigm which seeks to create disharmony among the sexes.
From what I can tell it seems like South America and Asia are far better venues for men seeking women, simply because they are far more remote from the clutches from feminism and they use patriarchy to the benefit of both sexes.
Am I off base here? Has anyone had experience with both European and non-Anglo expatting?

1. Have you actually been to Western Europe?

2. You have an unhealthy preoccupation with feminism. As one women once said, if there were only 3 decent guys to choose from, she'd be married already. Things like supply/demand and socio-economic factors tend to out-weight ideology.

3. Like women in the Western world, women in Latin America and Asia comes with their own set of issues. These are not the kind of things that can be taught with hearsay, you need to experience it to truely understand.

Your right Momopi there is quite a bit of unhealthy preoccupation with feminism around here.

Forget the woman that don't think your decent and you won't be shocked to find out they aren't from America.

Frankly I think its just beyond some people to think in a country with 311 Billion people you can't seem to find one. Then again they aren't dating women with the frequency needed to find somebody in this country. Then you have to take into account all the socio-economic factors like momopi says, which narrows your pool considerably cause if it didn't you wouldn't be posting here or posting this question...

[PeterAndrewNolan]

A Romanian woman I knew who used me once would go on hour long rants about how great the Soviet era was in her country and how she wished it would return. Despite this kind of talk she was a total golddigger and measured men by the size of their wallet. Her and her entire family (typical for Romania) look to the bf to fund and provide them with free cash. I do not judge eastern women but I questions them. I'd say one out of every 10 is a gem. The rest tend to be quite low and all about the money. I have a soft spot for Russian women but only if she is humble and kind.

Dude...all women are all about money and the assets the man will bring to the relationship...I really wish men would just accept the truth rather than have this stupid imbecilic view of women NOT being gold diggers. So few women are not gold diggers to some extent that they are effectively non existent. I know some but they are NOT the normal run of the mill women. Esther Vilnar was correct. Go read the manipulated man to find out what women are really like.

The thing that I REALLY dislike about western women is their lies and hypocrisy. My fav#1 made it VERY clear to me that she was interested in money RIGHT FROM THE START and she had NO PROBLEM telling me so.