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The United States is Inferior to China?

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https://www.politico.com/news/2021/08/0 ... ina-502739

Read that article to see how much the United States is a total failure of a nation compared to China.

They're only now trying to give rural areas of America access to broadband internet. They're only now trying to put money into building and maintaining trains and railways in America. And compared to China, the EU, Japan, and Russia it is is still nothing!

China is more of a real superpower than America.

I can't understand why most people in America don't realize the United States Government is corrupt, a failure, a tyranny, and a secret dictatorship?

Am I wrong? What is your opinion?
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Sorry, you sound utterly retarded as usual. Retards like you have crippled the US government by voting for idiots and con artists. Who would you like to see as president again? There is no Republican party hindering progress in China, the EU, Japan, or Russia.

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The reason why the US is failing compared to China is because the democratic system is being corrupted and it is allowing for idiots to be able to take over - same as the UK - they're falling badly behind in just a few years and the rot has set in. Who's next? Biden? Harris? The Rock? It's a joke - Italianman is right - the achilles heel of the US (and the UK...) are the people who have the vote who elect cretins and idiots and it's sinking the ship.

Xi Jinping is the best man for the job to run China - they would never allow a populist figure chosen by the people to run the country and f**k everything up.

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Italianman wrote:
August 8th, 2021, 10:47 pm
Sorry, you sound utterly retarded as usual. Retards like you have crippled the US government by voting for idiots and con artists. Who would you like to see as president again? There is no Republican party hindering progress in China, the EU, Japan, or Russia.
Sorry PAG but you sound like the retarded halfwit.

Stick with banging your Ukrainian whores and buying counterfeit watches. That's the only thing a guy like you is good at...

Obama was President for 8 years and most of what he did was start new wars and create FATCA that hurt American expats and dual citizens. Trump wasn't that great but he started less wars than Obama and didn't hurt all American expats. Trump only hurt expat business owners and expat dual citizen business owners which isn't a big deal considering FATCA is more problematic than GILTI. America even priced renouncing US citizenship out of most expats budgets and made it the most expensive citizenship to renounce. Most nations have renouncing citizenship as free or low cost.

Only retards believe in Republicans and Democrats. You clearly proved you're retard.

If you had any intelligence then you would recognize the two party system is a joke and a failure. Two party system is a divide and conquer strategy.

America became a Banana Republic for the rich and is a failure of a nation to all its people that aren't rich. They're just too brainwashed to realize how much of a failure America has become for them. I'm a freethinker so unlike you I can see reality for what it really is.

What America needs is a Second American Revolution, not an election!

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Lol, this guy is soooo retarded. America is essentially the only country where a dimwit with a reasonable skill set can work for 15-20 years and retire a millionaire. Last year, 1.7 million Americans became new millionaires. Try doing that in the United Kingdom or Europe. In California, the average software engineer or plumber earns more than $200,000 per year. FATCA had to be strengthened since so many Americans grew wealthy and started renouncing their US citizenship. Most nations have renouncing citizenship as free or low cost because you ain't walking away with a few million. You should really just shut up and go back to school so you can conduct real analysis, you whiny idiot. Moreover, If you had any "intelligence," and felt the two-party system wasn't great, you would have made a comparison (taking into account economics) and picked the lesser of two evils, then shut the f**k up and moved on until you could do something about it.

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yick wrote:
August 8th, 2021, 11:25 pm
The reason why the US is failing compared to China is because the democratic system is being corrupted and it is allowing for idiots to be able to take over - same as the UK - they're falling badly behind in just a few years and the rot has set in. Who's next? Biden? Harris? The Rock? It's a joke - Italianman is right - the achilles heel of the US (and the UK...) are the people who have the vote who elect cretins and idiots and it's sinking the ship.

Xi Jinping is the best man for the job to run China - they would never allow a populist figure chosen by the people to run the country and f**k everything up.
Pretty much. They slapped down Jack Ma, who sought to siphon off transaction fees from all citizens in China. In America or the United Kingdom, bankers would just get conservatives to preach about freedom and conjure up some nonsense, and the dumb people would hand over their money. Take for example Trump’s tax cut. Americans thought they got a tax cut. What they really got was a tax increase that hasn’t yet taken effect. When you cut taxes but don’t cut spending to match, you are not cutting taxes but merely delaying them.

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USA is heading the way of Brazil: extreme income/wealth polarization, lawless ghettos, no safe public spaces. Will continue to be a good place to make your fortune, but a lousy place to live. Which is why I spend less and less time there each year. In future, I'll reduce my visits to maybe every 5 years.

China and Russia combined will soon be able to piss all over the USA in Asia and the mideast. Taiwan will fall quickly, Korea and Japan will go neutral, India will be forced to lay low. Though India might stupidly not stay low, in which case they will get their ass handed to them, because China controls the water flow from Tibet.

At some point, Russia might decide to unleash Iran to go in a massive grab for the entire Persian Gulf. USA Navy will be humiliated by drone submarines and drone torpedo technology if it tries to oppose this. Israel plus Turkey might be able to stop Iran, with USA support through the Mediterranean, but if Putin and Iran are smart, they will promise the Kurds their own state in exchange fir holding Turkey back. Russia + China backing Iran, with Kurds doing the ground work to hold Turkey in place, is more than a match for USA + Israel + Turkey + corrupt Arab states. So it depends which side the Europeans take. If Putin is smart, he will wait for Israel and Turkey to commit some atrocity, causing the Europeans to go neutral.

These predictions are for 2030 and beyond. China and Russia gain advantage each year that passes, so better to wait if they are smart.

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Brazil was much worse 20 years ago. It's actually improving. With Democrats in power, the United States is moving toward more European-style socialism. Take a look at California. Things should get a lot better for the average retard. The superrich in America are not as stupid as the superrich in South America. Sure, the south, where Republicans still hold sway, will be shit with $7 minimum wage, etc, etc but that won't last with the average Fox News viewer being 80 years old. As for China being a super power within 10 years, I'll circle back to that when I'm done eating..
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Shemp wrote:
August 9th, 2021, 11:00 am
USA is heading the way of Brazil: extreme income/wealth polarization, lawless ghettos, no safe public spaces. Will continue to be a good place to make your fortune, but a lousy place to live. Which is why I spend less and less time there each year. In future, I'll reduce my visits to maybe every 5 years.

China and Russia combined will soon be able to piss all over the USA in Asia and the mideast. Taiwan will fall quickly, Korea and Japan will go neutral, India will be forced to lay low. Though India might stupidly not stay low, in which case they will get their ass handed to them, because China controls the water flow from Tibet.

At some point, Russia might decide to unleash Iran to go in a massive grab for the entire Persian Gulf. USA Navy will be humiliated by drone submarines and drone torpedo technology if it tries to oppose this. Israel plus Turkey might be able to stop Iran, with USA support through the Mediterranean, but if Putin and Iran are smart, they will promise the Kurds their own state in exchange fir holding Turkey back. Russia + China backing Iran, with Kurds doing the ground work to hold Turkey in place, is more than a match for USA + Israel + Turkey + corrupt Arab states. So it depends which side the Europeans take. If Putin is smart, he will wait for Israel and Turkey to commit some atrocity, causing the Europeans to go neutral.

These predictions are for 2030 and beyond. China and Russia gain advantage each year that passes, so better to wait if they are smart.
I have a similar prediction. I think your prediction is one of the good predictions I've seen.

Israel and Saudi Arabia made peace and diplomatic relations because they, like most nations, know the United States is a collapsing, dying empire. There is also an inherent cruelty in America beneath the all the fake, superficial smiles.

America like a metaphorical soda can. Eventually the pressure from being shaken will get too much.. and then it does, America will explode.

Although, if we're going to be accurate absent a metaphor then in time, America will implode from within.

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Italianman wrote:
August 9th, 2021, 9:25 am
Lol, this guy is soooo retarded. America is essentially the only country where a dimwit with a reasonable skill set can work for 15-20 years and retire a millionaire. Last year, 1.7 million Americans became new millionaires. Try doing that in the United Kingdom or Europe. In California, the average software engineer or plumber earns more than $200,000 per year. FATCA had to be strengthened since so many Americans grew wealthy and started renouncing their US citizenship. Most nations have renouncing citizenship as free or low cost because you ain't walking away with a few million. You should really just shut up and go back to school so you can conduct real analysis, you whiny idiot. Moreover, If you had any "intelligence," and felt the two-party system wasn't great, you would have made a comparison (taking into account economics) and picked the lesser of two evils, then shut the f**k up and moved on until you could do something about it.

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They earn $200,000 because every home is priced over $1,000,000, taxes are extreme, water is expensive, and everything is a higher cost because of the extremely high cost of living.

Tell me how you would stand against a tsunami and do something about preventing the tsunami. No one can fix America or do something about the two party system. A Second American Revolution is necessary.
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Shemp wrote:
August 9th, 2021, 11:00 am
China and Russia combined will soon be able to piss all over the USA in Asia and the mideast. Taiwan will fall quickly, Korea and Japan will go neutral, India will be forced to lay low. Though India might stupidly not stay low, in which case they will get their ass handed to them, because China controls the water flow from Tibet.

At some point, Russia might decide to unleash Iran to go in a massive grab for the entire Persian Gulf. USA Navy will be humiliated by drone submarines and drone torpedo technology if it tries to oppose this. Israel plus Turkey might be able to stop Iran, with USA support through the Mediterranean, but if Putin and Iran are smart, they will promise the Kurds their own state in exchange fir holding Turkey back. Russia + China backing Iran, with Kurds doing the ground work to hold Turkey in place, is more than a match for USA + Israel + Turkey + corrupt Arab states. So it depends which side the Europeans take. If Putin is smart, he will wait for Israel and Turkey to commit some atrocity, causing the Europeans to go neutral.

These predictions are for 2030 and beyond. China and Russia gain advantage each year that passes, so better to wait if they are smart.
I don't think China will be able to piss all over the United States in Asia and the Middle East for a long time. It wouldn't take much to destabilize China by threatening its food supply. China depends substantially on food imports from other countries. China's demand for soybeans has risen in recent years, owing in large part to the crop's importance as a source of livestock feed. Between 2000 and 2018, Chinese soybean imports increased from $2.3 billion to approximately $38.1 billion, making China the world's top importer by a considerable margin.

As trade tensions between the United States and China grew in 2018, Chinese purchases of US soybeans virtually halved, from $13.9 billion in 2017 to $7.1 billion in 2018. In response, China turned to Brazil, increasing soybean imports from the South American agricultural powerhouse by 37.9 percent to $28.8 billion in 2018. Nonetheless, China's thirst for soybeans exceeds the combined production capability of Brazil and the rest of the world, leaving the US to fill in the gap.

Pork, China's main meat source, has also experienced problems in recent years. China suffered its first epidemic of African swine flu in August 2018. To prevent the spread of the virus, China was forced to restrict the transit and sale of hogs at live markets, and it also slaughtered over one million pigs. Domestic pork production fell 21.3 percent in 2019, while pork imports from the United States increased by 258 percent.

While economic development has enabled China to make significant progress in feeding its population, significant obstacles remain. Chinese policymakers have the combined task of maintaining economic growth while feeding the country's expanding urban population from a countryside with only 0.21 acres of fertile land per capita. A scarcity of arable land is aggravated further by the fact that poor regulation has resulted in major environmental damage, severely limiting local production capability. In 2018, 15.5 percent of China's groundwater was classified "Grade V," indicating that it was so filthy that it could not be used. Soil contamination has been widespread, particularly in southern areas such as Henan province, prompting the government to prohibit growing on 8 million acres of damaged agricultural land until it can be restored.

Chinese firms have attempted to compensate for home production constraints by making large investments in agricultural-based assets abroad. Between 2000 and 2018, China purchased an estimated 3.2 million hectares of foreign land, making it the world's fourth largest buyer, trailing only the United States, the Democratic Republic of the Congo, and Malaysia. In 2018, China was the second-largest foreign landholder in Australia, after only the United Kingdom and ahead of the United States.

In recent decades, China's global fishing efforts have risen considerably. China's total aquatic food output increased from 15.1 million metric tons in 1990 to 81 million metric tons in 2018, accounting for slightly more than 38 percent of global production. Despite this, China imported $11 billion in fish in 2017, making it the world's third-largest importer, trailing only the United States ($22 billion) and Japan ($15 billion). A significant amount of Chinese fishing takes place in waters far from China. Overfishing has contributed to the serious depletion of fishery resources closer to China's coasts. According to the Chinese Ministry of Agriculture, there are “practically no fish” in the East China Sea. Chinese poachers have decimated the fragile environment in the South China Sea. In order to gather enormous clams in Scarborough Shoal, fisherman purposefully destroyed almost half of the whole reef surface (around 58 square kilometers).

Some Chinese DWF vessels have been caught fishing illegally, unreported, and unregulated (IUU). Green Peace conducted a two-year study and discovered Chinese boats fishing illegally and misrepresenting their catch tonnage in the forbidden waters of Senegal, Mauritania, Guinea Bissau, and other nations. The Argentina Coast Guard sunk a Chinese vessel that was allegedly fishing illegally in its seas in March 2016.

Russia has it's own problems with declining population and an economy based solely on exporting natural resources. Also, if you haven't heard, they recently lost Ukraine.

Iran is mostly just a terrorist state with no serious military. Iran has mainly embarked on a strategy of proxy wars or conducting asymmetrical strikes aimed at exploiting the vulnerabilities of American and U.S.-led forces. Tehran’s main goal is to project its influence and protect its interests throughout the Middle East or to at least prevent adversaries, like Saudi Arabia, from gaining the upper hand.

To accomplish that, Tehran has done everything possible to deter and harass the enormous contingents of U.S. forces deployed in 10 countries throughout the region with the ultimate objective being to push them out. But Tehran lagged far behind regional foes such as Saudi Arabia, which spent some $70 billion, and Israel, at $18.5 billion (the United States is without rival at more than $700 billion).

In addition, Iranian military expenditures declined by 9.5 percent in 2018 compared to the previous year due to massive economic problems caused by U.S. sanctions, a strategy that Washington refers to as "maximum pressure."

With all that said, I think the US will be top dog for a very long time.

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Tsar wrote:
August 9th, 2021, 5:18 pm
Italianman wrote:
August 9th, 2021, 9:25 am
Lol, this guy is soooo retarded. America is essentially the only country where a dimwit with a reasonable skill set can work for 15-20 years and retire a millionaire. Last year, 1.7 million Americans became new millionaires. Try doing that in the United Kingdom or Europe. In California, the average software engineer or plumber earns more than $200,000 per year. FATCA had to be strengthened since so many Americans grew wealthy and started renouncing their US citizenship. Most nations have renouncing citizenship as free or low cost because you ain't walking away with a few million. You should really just shut up and go back to school so you can conduct real analysis, you whiny idiot. Moreover, If you had any "intelligence," and felt the two-party system wasn't great, you would have made a comparison (taking into account economics) and picked the lesser of two evils, then shut the f**k up and moved on until you could do something about it.

https://culturewhiz.org/forum/topic/dem ... ted-states
LoL

They earn $200,000 because every home is priced over $1,000,000, taxes are extreme, water is expensive, and everything is a higher cost because of the extremely high cost of living.

Tell me how you would stand against a tsunami and do something about preventing the tsunami. No one can fix America or do something about the two party system. A Second American Revolution is necessary.
Here we see King PAG confront Prince "Tsar" and his "advisor"



In 2020, California had the highest number of millionaire households in the U.S., with 1.14 million households having one million or more in investible assets. This is nearly double the 650,216 millionaire households in Texas, the state with the second-highest number.

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Italianman wrote:
August 9th, 2021, 9:38 pm
Here we see King PAG confront Prince "Tsar" and his "advisor"



In 2020, California had the highest number of millionaire households in the U.S., with 1.14 million households having one million or more in investible assets. This is nearly double the 650,216 millionaire households in Texas, the state with the second-highest number.
This is Tsar confronting foolish halfwit PAG after PAG was turned into a eunuch because he was genetically unfit and depriving him of his manhood was better than killing him...

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Italianman wrote:
August 9th, 2021, 9:21 pm
It wouldn't take much to destabilize China by threatening its food supply. China depends substantially on food imports from other countries.
China alone or Russia alone are no match for the USA and its allies. But combined they are extremely powerful, because they complement each other. China has massive industrial capacity, Russia has all the food and oil and other raw materials China lacks. Combined, they can firce Korea and Japan to stay neutral, and thus they get access to vital electronics technology. Unlike the USA and its allies, which depend on open sea lanes, China/Russia combined can escalate a naval war to cut sea lanes. This is why they can force Korea and Japan to go neutral.

Russia didn't "lose" Ukraine. If they wanted, they could easily conquer anytime. But that would antagonize Europe, which they can't afford. Ukraine was a mistake by Russia, but a minor one that can be repaired in time.

Iran by itself is weak. But wars of the future will be automated. Machines, not human soldiers. China has the world's most powerful production capacity, plus a land route through Russia to supply Iran. With massive supply of machines built in China and transported through Russia, Iran becomes extremely powerful. China/Russia can use Iran as a proxy to grab control of the Persian Gulf, and then transport all that oil back to China via pipelines.

It's not a guarantee that China, Russia and Iran will work together, but the possibility is there. In particular, if the USA is stupid enough to challenge either China or Russia or worse both, then I expect this triple alliance to form and absolutely destroy the USA and its allies in Asia and the mideast. USA can never be invaded, but it can be driven out of the west Pacific and Indian oceans.

Military technology is rapidly evolving. But the key weapons ofv the next big war, IMO, will be smart drone torpedoes, used to block sea lanes. USA is a sea power, like Britain before it, not a land power. Anything which allows sea lanes to be blocked will devastate USA ability to project power.

Biological warfare (pandemics like covid) and space warfare are probably a wash. They is, USA and its allies fare neither better not worse than China/Russia alliance in those domains.

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Blah, since this is all hypothetical, who's to say Russia won't join the West in a few years? To begin with, Moscow fears Beijing more than Washington. Russia, like the Philippines, India, and Bhutan, is vulnerable to Chinese territorial expansion. In 1969, the two countries engaged in a border war along the Ussuri River, which both sides feared could lead to nuclear war. Moscow asked foreign governments how they would respond to a preemptive strike against China, and in October 1969, Mao Zedong fled Beijing for fear of a Soviet nuclear attack. This fear prompted Mao to reach out to the Americans, and the two sides actively collaborated against the Soviets in the 1970s and 1980s.

Despite Western perceptions of a monolithic communist bloc, Sino-Soviet relations remained tense for decades; Mao despised Stalin, and despite the strategic rationale for maintaining close Sino-Soviet relations, he precipitated the Sino-Soviet split in the 1950s.

Now, China has surpassed Russia as the most powerful nation in Central Asia, Moscow's traditional geopolitical backyard, and wields uncomfortably large influence over the Russian economy. Russia's largest trading partner is China, while Russia isn't even in China's top ten. It makes no sense for Xi to advocate for Russia's renaissance when China has benefited the most from its decline.

While China was preoccupied with the Second Opium War in the 1850s, Russia sent thousands of men down the Amur River into Manchuria. Russia annexed a large portion of what is now modern-day Siberia, legitimizing its sovereignty with the Treaty of Peking in 1860. They established a client state in Mongolia, sparking a year-long border conflict. Stalin also backed the separatist Uygur movement in Xinjiang.

All of this means that there is now room for Moscow to join the global campaign to limit the pernicious aspects of the Chinese Communist Party's international influence.

Some Russians fear that the Chinese intend to invade Siberia, while some Chinese believe that parts of eastern Russia are actually Chinese territory. Tajikistan is Russia's largest overseas military base; China opened a (secret) military base there several years ago. Early in what the Chinese Communist Party refers to as the "century of humiliation," the Chinese and Russians signed treaties ceding vast swaths of land around Lake Baikal to the Russians. Some Chinese people want to reclaim that land. Many Russians in Russia's sparsely populated Far East are fearful of and resentful of Chinese immigration and influence. Russia became the first country to close its land border with China as the pandemic spread in early 2020.

Moscow's most valuable asset in the relationship is its defense technology. In fact, Russia is India's primary weapons supplier.

Even so, the Kremlin is up against the same predatory mercantilism that countless firms around the world have encountered. “China alone has copied aircraft engines, Sukhoi planes, deck jets, air defense systems, portable air defense missiles, and analogs of the Pantsir medium-range surface-to-air systems,” said the chief of intellectual property projects at Russia's state-owned defense conglomerate Rostec.

This could be Russia and India vs. China? People who know the Russia-China history know that there is a potential for China encroaching on Russia. Russia is a dictatorship with veneers of capitalism. The top average wages in China is $1500 a month for a man (https://www.fdichina.com/blog/wages-in-china/), with a 60 hour work week. And most wages are far less. Russian working situations are really terrible. A doctor earns about $600 a month. And people become so desperate for jobs they will literally do anything. For dudes, the choices are sniffing a bag of glue or joining the military with a high injury rate. The west really enjoys a higher standard of living and quality of life.

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