Many right wing men hate America now

[NPCslammer]

Another follow up by youtuber Undead Chronic on why right wing men hate America now and wouldn’t lift a finger to defend the Satanic, leftist shit hole that it has become. https://youtu.be/riKamQj0D34

[WilliamSmith]

Good looking chick, this Lauren Southern.
Here is the entire original podcast starting from when she talks about this specific issue:
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOU_2CnGZPg&t=1824s[/youtube]
Pretty sure the Undead guy and various other "MGTWO" types yelling in the comments of the 1st video are wrong that she is "SHOCKED" that strong men hate the USSA though, she was just saying it's been a fascinating trend to watch the strength of the turning in which the "globalist liberal power" occupation regime has transformed rightwing nationalists into haters of the regime and the country itself. (She wasn't saying they were wrong, and that they should be jumping for joy to go join the ZOG war against Russia.)

P.S. Some commenter called CherubCow (LOL) posted a comment with annotated timepoints.

They also talked about the New World Order comment that Ukrainian MP just made on Fox Jews today, and the related issues of China, Russia, various fake news stories published by the mainstream US/Western media, but I tuned out.

[Outcast9428]

What is there about America for a right-wing man to love?

This is a country that is determined to destroy the innocence and virtue of every single person living inside it. Not only that, but increasingly the evil ruling class of our society isn't satisfied with a society full of degenerate adults anymore but wants to destroy the innocence of children as soon as possible. The elites of our society celebrate the destruction of everything that is good and joyful about life. They celebrate the destruction of marriage, the destruction of love, the destruction of family, the destruction of culture, the destruction of tradition, the destruction of feminine sweetness and beauty, the destruction of wholesomeness and innocence.

They are a force of pure, despicable evil. Not only do they want America to be like this, they want the whole world to be like this. They send their people to countries that still value love and marriage and try to convince them to give it up. The United States is not just a liberal society but the head of the snake of liberalism and progressivism. The vector of the world's darkness. We're not the good guys anymore, we are the bad guys. I have lost all respect for this country in its current form. Only through when the US loses its power and wealth will the world become a better place.

Patriotism is only a right-wing value if there is actually something to be patriotic about in the first place. Hungarian conservatives should be patriotic, so should Thai, and Japanese conservatives. They actually have countries to be proud of, a country that stands for something good. They're not perfect but at least they are trying to become better. At least they genuinely give a shit about their own people. We, on the other hand, live in a country who's government actively despises the people it rules over. That brainwashes the majority of our population into self-hatred.

This is why right-wing tyranny will never be as bad as left-wing tyranny. Even the most ruthless of right-wing tyrants at least gave a shit about their own people. Their ruthlessness is usually directed at people they consider to be enemies but not towards their own people. Left-wing tyrants on the other hand, are tyrants who literally despise the people they rule over. Who seem to go out of their way to make their lives as miserable as possible while pretending to do it for their own good.

[NPCslammer]

What is there about America for a right-wing man to love?

This is a country that is determined to destroy the innocence and virtue of every single person living inside it. Not only that, but increasingly the evil ruling class of our society isn't satisfied with a society full of degenerate adults anymore but wants to destroy the innocence of children as soon as possible. The elites of our society celebrate the destruction of everything that is good and joyful about life. They celebrate the destruction of marriage, the destruction of love, the destruction of family, the destruction of culture, the destruction of tradition, the destruction of feminine sweetness and beauty, the destruction of wholesomeness and innocence.

They are a force of pure, despicable evil. Not only do they want America to be like this, they want the whole world to be like this. They send their people to countries that still value love and marriage and try to convince them to give it up. The United States is not just a liberal society but the head of the snake of liberalism and progressivism. The vector of the world's darkness. We're not the good guys anymore, we are the bad guys. I have lost all respect for this country in its current form. Only through when the US loses its power and wealth will the world become a better place.

Patriotism is only a right-wing value if there is actually something to be patriotic about in the first place. Hungarian conservatives should be patriotic, so should Thai, and Japanese conservatives. They actually have countries to be proud of, a country that stands for something good. They're not perfect but at least they are trying to become better. At least they genuinely give a shit about their own people. We, on the other hand, live in a country who's government actively despises the people it rules over. That brainwashes the majority of our population into self-hatred.

This is why right-wing tyranny will never be as bad as left-wing tyranny. Even the most ruthless of right-wing tyrants at least gave a shit about their own people. Their ruthlessness is usually directed at people they consider to be enemies but not towards their own people. Left-wing tyrants on the other hand, are tyrants who literally despise the people they rule over. Who seem to go out of their way to make their lives as miserable as possible while pretending to do it for their own good.

Well said. When I am America I feel like there is a literal curse over the whole place. To me it feels like there is an oppressive darkness, emptiness and coldness. It does not feel conducive to life. It also feels like there is a decaying force is in America, as if the second law of thermodynamics is increased 10 fold or or something like that. Every time I’ve gone to a foreign country it feels like relief from that oppressive atmosphere. Every country I’ve been to outside the U.S. has been better than Amerihell.

[WilliamSmith]

I just saw this piece and posted it in the Russia/Ukraine war outbreak thread, but this part here re: Pat Tillman made me think of this thread.
https://www.unz.com/lromanoff/informati ... w-and-why/


Tillman is kind of a fitting symbol of being the classical idealistic muscular all-American "Chad" who went from football star to patriotic American military hero naively joining the ZOG's war. However, there was a big difference in his case, which was that he woke up to the realization the war was illegal, and made plans to return to the states to do a long interview with Chomsky (!), and possibly even speeches to publicize this and the many war atrocities being committed-- so the ZOG had him assassinated, initially blaming Iraqi "terrorists," but then gradually being forced to admit it was "friendly fire" and almost certainly an assassination.

Pat Tillman

There was yet another problem, this time from within the US military, in the person of Pat Tillman, a football star and American hero who naively enlisted to ‘serve his country’ but then discovered the war was not what it seemed, and wasn’t bashful about telling anyone who would listen, “This war is so f***ing illegal”, and much more. Tillman was killed when his little battalion encountered merciless gunfire by Iraqi terrorists. His body was shipped home in celebration, with a post-humous Silver Star, the military comforting the aggrieved family.

But then, an extraordinarily brave young soldier, disobeying direct orders, secretly informed Tillman’s family that Tillman was killed by “friendly fire”, causing a huge PR mess. The military admitted they lied to the family, but the story repeatedly changed. First, Tillman’s death was at the hand of the enemy in battle (from a distance of 100 meters), then by ‘friendly fire’ in battle (from a distance of 100 meters), but then it was admitted there had been no enemy in the vicinity and no battle at all. Explanations as to how ‘friendly fire’ could ensue in such a circumstance were all ridiculed. The matter became increasingly incendiary when more details came to light: (a) Tillman was killed by 3 closely-grouped shots in the forehead at very close range; (b) almost immediately after his death, Tillman’s uniform, body armor, personal diary and many other personal items were burned, the military claiming this was merely a matter of ‘hygiene’; (c) Messages were leaked where military lawyers celebrated their ability to derail and prevent investigations into Tillman’s death.

The only other salient fact is that Tillman would soon have returned to the US and had already arranged a two or three-hour interview with Noam Chomsky where he planned to reveal everything he had learned about the illegalities of the war, the atrocities committed by the US military, and other inconvenient truths. The word on the street was that he and Chomsky planned to team up to conduct a long series of cross-country speeches to inform the American public about the truth of the war. We cannot absolutely prove that Pat Tillman was executed by his own military to silence him, though the US military and the CIA have a long-documented history of this. But the gunshot wounds didn’t precisely fit the Military’s description of “mistakenly gunned down by his fellow Rangers”, and three closely-grouped shots to the middle of the forehead at point-blank range wouldn’t normally be classified as “friendly”.

Here is another piece I found with more details about it:
http://www.renegadetribune.com/14-years ... -sell-war/

So there's what you get if you're a classical rightwing all-American hero, you can either go murder and commit atrocities for ZOG (while they hide from the action and indulge themselves in pedophilia and globohomo parties after their "elite learned class" Davos dinner parties and fancy dress balls and !@#$), but if you have the balls to do the right thing and try to tell the truth like Tillman was trying to do, then they'll put a bullet in your head, or far worse.

[WilliamSmith]

Wow, very eloquent and well said, I completely agree!

What is there about America for a right-wing man to love?

This is a country that is determined to destroy the innocence and virtue of every single person living inside it. Not only that, but increasingly the evil ruling class of our society isn't satisfied with a society full of degenerate adults anymore but wants to destroy the innocence of children as soon as possible. The elites of our society celebrate the destruction of everything that is good and joyful about life. They celebrate the destruction of marriage, the destruction of love, the destruction of family, the destruction of culture, the destruction of tradition, the destruction of feminine sweetness and beauty, the destruction of wholesomeness and innocence.

They are a force of pure, despicable evil. Not only do they want America to be like this, they want the whole world to be like this. They send their people to countries that still value love and marriage and try to convince them to give it up. The United States is not just a liberal society but the head of the snake of liberalism and progressivism. The vector of the world's darkness. We're not the good guys anymore, we are the bad guys. I have lost all respect for this country in its current form. Only through when the US loses its power and wealth will the world become a better place.

Patriotism is only a right-wing value if there is actually something to be patriotic about in the first place. Hungarian conservatives should be patriotic, so should Thai, and Japanese conservatives. They actually have countries to be proud of, a country that stands for something good. They're not perfect but at least they are trying to become better. At least they genuinely give a shit about their own people. We, on the other hand, live in a country who's government actively despises the people it rules over. That brainwashes the majority of our population into self-hatred.

[WilliamSmith]

Here's another good piece I noticed today about this subject: "Right wing" doesn't necessarily mean white, but these were still good points re: why heterosexual right wing men have no good reason to sacrifice ourselves as tools for the jewnited states, whose deranged pervert "leaders" openly express contempt for all of us and treat eradicating us a sort of act of social justice activism. I'm looking forward to going overseas and renouncing my US citizenship.

Why I Don’t Care About America’s Geopolitical Decline
https://www.unz.com/ghood/why-i-dont-ca ... l-decline/

Hostility towards Russia is one of the few issues that unite Republicans and Democrats – along with support for citizenship for illegal immigrants, interference in Syria, keeping troops in Afghanistan, and thwarting China. We can’t count on Republicans or Democrats to stand up for Americans, but we can count on support for invading the world and inviting the world. This combination of an aggressive foreign policy and indifference towards citizens is why some call the current regime the Globalist American Empire (GAE). It may be based in Washington DC, but it has nothing to do with the historic American nation or its interests.

However, what I call the “American Paradox” may doom this “empire.” It is run by people who seem to care nothing for the country; the empire is built on sand. The Biden Administration gives non-whites preferences over whites, spies on white advocates, is purging the military on ideological and racial grounds, and supports Black Lives Matter. This may play well in the media, but it undermines the empire’s power in two ways.

First, whites have no reason to fight for a government that discriminates against them, replaces them through immigration, and scorns their heritage. Likewise, if America really is plagued by racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia, and other newly invented sins, why should non-whites and leftists support the government? There’s no point at which progressives can say “we’ve won, we are equal.” Blacks support the Democrats, but only if there is a payoff. If there isn’t, they’ll walk away. The Biden Administration’s support is broad (over 50 percent in most polls) but thin.

Leftists always find it hard to be patriotic. There will always be new grievances. Racial differences are permanent because race is not a social construct. We can’t admit that, so we need ever more expansive definitions of “racism” and creative critiques of American society to explain race differences. Will blacks, Hispanics, and other groups sacrifice for a country that academics, journalists, athletes, celebrities, politicians, CEOs, and generals agree is racist?

Serious nations are calling the “empire’s” bluff. The Russians say American dissidents are seeking Russian citizenship. President Joe Biden recently called President Vladimir Putin a “killer.” In response, President Putin smirkingly challenged Joe Biden to a debate and wished him good health. Joe Biden declined President Putin’s challenge, with the White House spokesperson lamely noting that he was “quite busy.” Turkey is now moving closer to Russia, a bizarre partnership that only American incompetence can explain.

Chinese media and officials are also laughing at America’s hypocrisy. It compared America’s support for rioters in China with repression against the Capitol protesters. There was also an extraordinary spectacle at the first major Chinese-American summit of this administration. Secretary of State Blinken lectured China about the rights of Chinese Muslims, economic coercion against American allies, and China’s threats against Taiwan. The Chinese team, which appeared far more serious and capable, called America weak and immoral. Chinese contempt for the baizuo, “white left,” was palpable.

Director of the Central Foreign Affairs Commission Yang Jiechi, mostly without notes, gave a powerful 20-minute speech in which he said that “the United States does not have the qualification to say that it wants to speak to China from a position of strength.” He might as well have slapped the secretary of state in the face. He also said America must not interfere with China’s internal affairs.

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Until we have politicians who care about us, I don’t care about the geopolitical games the government wants to play. I’m glad this decline is happening under Joe Biden, though, so more patriotic Americans aren’t fooled into thinking we have a stake in these squabbles.

Of course, Russia or China won’t “save” us. China is repeating Black Lives Matter propaganda. Vladimir Putin recycles the charges against America you hear on any college campus. He blasts slavery, the treatment of the Indians, and the atomic bombing of Japan. Everywhere, people say that “the other side is the real racist;” even in the Russian protectorate of the Donetsk People’s Republic, I heard Russian and DPR officials say their war was just because Ukraine was run by “fascists” and “Nazis.” Their political vocabulary is trapped in 1945, just like ours.

The Regime’s fights abroad are not our fights. The Regime treats us with contempt. We are not much more than tax slaves and cannon fodder. Why should any nation respect American whites if our own government despises us? Should we therefore celebrate the regime’s failures? If the postwar American order falls, what follows could be worse, but so long as we are subjugated, I’m not sure it matters much whether the orders come from Washington, Beijing, or Moscow.

[Outcast9428]

@WilliamSmith

I've wondered before why exactly we should be scared of Putin taking over? What could Putin possibly do that our own government doesn't do already?

Imagine if Russia took over... As Americans, we might be forced to accept rigged elections, being thrown in prison if we protest the government, our opinions cancelled over social media, the news constantly lying to us, be discriminated against in college or job applications, and possibly being told to be ashamed of our herit-... Oh wait.

At least if Russia took over though they wouldn't tolerate feminism and BLM.

[NPCslammer]

@WilliamSmith

I've wondered before why exactly we should be scared of Putin taking over? What could Putin possibly do that our own government doesn't do already?

Imagine if Russia took over... As Americans, we might be forced to accept rigged elections, being thrown in prison if we protest the government, our opinions cancelled over social media, the news constantly lying to us, be discriminated against in college or job applications, and possibly being told to be ashamed of our herit-... Oh wait.

At least if Russia took over though they wouldn't tolerate feminism and BLM.

If Putin was in charge of the U.S. he’d get rid of GMO. He’d get rid of the illegal beaners, and build a wall with armed guards that shoot anybody who crosses. He’d ban libtrash media. He’d purge the Marxists from the schools. He’d ban most the LGBT filth, especially when they push it on kids in public schools. If Antifa tried their crap they would get their asses beaten to bloodly pulps, as well as BLM. CRT would be nuked into oblivion. He’d ban revisionist twats from distorting history in the schools. He’d ban the removal of historical statues. He’d decrease the insane amount of regulations that the county has. He’d ban the fairy tale gender pronoun crap and have trannies and faggots treated how the should be, the scum of society. He’d have weapons training and safety training for teens, mandatory for snowflakes. He’d encourage masculinity etc…

It’s no wonder the child raping Marxists in the American government hate Putin.

[flowerthief00]

It does seem more and more that the Right is taking up the America-hating mantle from the Left, now that the Left is calling all the shots. It's reminiscent of juveniles when they don't get their way.

Little Johnny wants to go for pizza but little Susie wants to go for sandwiches. Mommy and daddy decide sandwiches, so little Johnny says "I hate you mommy and daddy! I hate this family!" The next day it's little Susie who doesn't get her way and throws the same tantrum that little Johnny threw yesterday.

[Outcast9428]

It does seem more and more that the Right is taking up the America-hating mantle from the Left

Its about time, modern America does not deserve our respect.

[Tsar]

It does seem more and more that the Right is taking up the America-hating mantle from the Left, now that the Left is calling all the shots. It's reminiscent of juveniles when they don't get their way.

Little Johnny wants to go for pizza but little Susie wants to go for sandwiches. Mommy and daddy decide sandwiches, so little Johnny says "I hate you mommy and daddy! I hate this family!" The next day it's little Susie who doesn't get her way and throws the same tantrum that little Johnny threw yesterday.

I think anyone who is nationalistic, rational, and moral would hate a degenerate, illogical, irrational, immoral, and imperialistic yet self-hating nation that no longer serves the interests of its people, and no longer cares about the legitimate interest of serving the nation. If America was a nation, it wouldn't have sold it's future, made enemy after enemy, and engaged in irrational wars that accomplished nothing and only added to America's decay, bankruptcy, and hurt American interests. I think it's obvious that anyone on the far-right who hates America would probably love America if it was actually a great nation, but as it is now, it's not great and it's not even a nation.

[flowerthief00]

My point was that it's a seesaw. When the Left hated America the Right loved it. And now it's going the other way. Kind of. I mean, when Obama won the presidency all I heard about was "hope". Then when Trump won, the Left was raging. When Biden won, I was once again hearing lots of talk about how America is still a good country after all.

It's a seesaw bouncing out of control, though. Before long some kid might go flying off of it.

[Outcast9428]

Its not just about who's president. Trump did not change America in a better direction at all. He did nothing to stop the woke bullshit from spinning out of control and was too concerned with continuing to empower Israel.

[WilliamSmith]

@WilliamSmith

I've wondered before why exactly we should be scared of Putin taking over? What could Putin possibly do that our own government doesn't do already?

Imagine if Russia took over... As Americans, we might be forced to accept rigged elections, being thrown in prison if we protest the government, our opinions cancelled over social media, the news constantly lying to us, be discriminated against in college or job applications, and possibly being told to be ashamed of our herit-... Oh wait.

At least if Russia took over though they wouldn't tolerate feminism and BLM.

Yeah, you're right! Pretty sure Putin would never have the slightest interest in taking over a disastrous cesspool like the jewnited states, but other than that, I completely agree.