Why are men in the Anglosphere shamed if they want to go to brothels but men from other cultures are not?

[ArchibaultNew]

Hey guys,

This is a partial response towards Outcast. He seems to be completely against any kind of "sexual freedom." However, I wonder how come in other cultures like say Latin American. Married Men can simply go to a brothel bang a hooker and as long as its kept "under wraps" its fine. I've seen this happen in French culture as well to an extend. I've seen it in Japan and Korea as well for those people who argue that this cultures are "conservative."

Meanwhile, in the Anglosphere, men like this would be called, "losers" "failures" "cheaters." Men in the Anglosphere needs to go to bars mass approach women and then might "get lucky" if at all. It seems women have all the power in the Anglosphere.

The only two solutions that Anglo guys like Outcast offers are: No sexual liberation for anyone, their Puritain version of a "Conservative Society" or "improve youself" and keep mass approaching to eventually become a so-called "Alpha male" this is mostly a fantasy since its Internet Marketers promote this path.

[Mew6ix]

Did you get the memo?

Recently, in Australia, clubs are banning men for stare rape. Tribe of Men YouTube channel has the details.

These modern woemen believe that they will side with the elites to f**k up the remaining 80% of men, while they ask where are all the good men?

They are probably in the Russian or Chinese military to be honest.

[WanderingProtagonist]

Hey guys,

This is a partial response towards Outcast. He seems to be completely against any kind of "sexual freedom." However, I wonder how come in other cultures like say Latin American. Married Men can simply go to a brothel bang a hooker and as long as its kept "under wraps" its fine. I've seen this happen in French culture as well to an extend. I've seen it in Japan and Korea as well for those people who argue that this cultures are "conservative."

Meanwhile, in the Anglosphere, men like this would be called, "losers" "failures" "cheaters." Men in the Anglosphere needs to go to bars mass approach women and then might "get lucky" if at all. It seems women have all the power in the Anglosphere.

The only two solutions that Anglo guys like Outcast offers are: No sexual liberation for anyone, their Puritain version of a "Conservative Society" or "improve youself" and keep mass approaching to eventually become a so-called "Alpha male" this is mostly a fantasy since its Internet Marketers promote this path.

I honestly thought he was old like 60 or something, but he's 24 thinking like that...That's what shocks the hell out of me. I honestly don't even care anymore about that stuff. Some people want to live a hyper strict life but you cannot expect everyone else do to that. People will get bored, some people won't. But not everyone has the ability to just be puritan. I would gain nothing from having sex with a lot of women, so that's not something I could ever become part of. All I need is just one girl I'm attracted to and I would be fine. I don't need to sleep around with a thousand different women, men will get sick of doing that especially after a certain age. I don't even agree with sleeping with prostitutes, so I could never do such a thing. I'd rather wait for sex androids, at least doing it with one of those wouldn't leave me feeling ashamed or disappointed. I could honestly get into some tech like that.

Because I wouldn't be expecting it to be emotionally attached to me..Unless it became as real as the ones from Detroit Becoming Human. Then there is a possibility I'd become attached to it. Any woman I intend to do anything with, she's got to be emotionally attached to me in some way, that's just the way I am about this sort of thing. And I definitely wouldn't be able to mess with other women while I'm already involved. I'd put myself in the woman's position of her doing that kind of shit to me, and no I wouldn't like it. And wouldn't want her keeping any secrets from me that she's doing it either. That's just as bad as getting cucked and jacking off to a guy banging your goddamn girl in front of you. I'd rather shove my dick inside an ant hill full of bulldog ants the most brutal ants in the world rather than getting cucked. F- that noise.

[Lucas88]

This is a partial response towards Outcast. He seems to be completely against any kind of "sexual freedom." However, I wonder how come in other cultures like say Latin American. Married Men can simply go to a brothel bang a hooker and as long as its kept "under wraps" its fine. I've seen this happen in French culture as well to an extend. I've seen it in Japan and Korea as well for those people who argue that this cultures are "conservative."

Meanwhile, in the Anglosphere, men like this would be called, "losers" "failures" "cheaters." Men in the Anglosphere needs to go to bars mass approach women and then might "get lucky" if at all. It seems women have all the power in the Anglosphere.

In the Anglosphere men who pay for sex are seen as "losers" because Anglo countries are hyperindustrial societies which place a great deal of emphasis on material and social competition and men are expected to aggressively compete for sexual access. Many Anglo men view recourse to prostitution as a dishonorable way to cheat the competition and like to shame men who do go with prostitutes as "failures" who are not man enough to compete and have no choice but to pay for sex. Many Anglo women have the same attitude since they see themselves as the exalted prize for which men compete and look down on any men who they perceive as not good enough. Latin and Mediterranean societies are not like that at all. There is not as much emphasis on material and social competition to begin with. Neither is there any social shame associated with inceldom or recourse to prostitution. From my experience, in places like Spain and Latin America people don't go out of their way to look down on men who find it difficult to get a girlfriend. Most people are quite understanding and some even openly recommend prostitution as a solution. Even guys who are not incels sometimes visit a prostitute just for the fun of it.

As for @Outcast9428, he once told me that he thought that a guy like myself (an ex-incel) visiting prostitutes in Spain doesn't sound right and that no guy in his college would think that it was normal. I think that Outcast has a very US-centric view of the world even though he's been to Italy and Hungary. I explained to him that in Latin and Mediterranean cultures men have a completely different attitude towards prostitution and don't associate it with shame or sexual failure. In Spain I know guys who are competent WilliamSmith-level pvssyslayers such as my Spanish wrestling instructor and my Latino friend René who bang dozens of women with ease yet still visit a brothel from time to time. I remember when I was at college in Spain and I told some of my male classmates that I had gone to Valencia Chic the previous night and knocked the back out of a hot Brazilian mamacita. Their immediate reaction was one of enthusiasm and they all said that they'd like to try that place out too! Almost every male who I know personally in Spain has slept with a prostitute before. The Mediterranean attitude is completely different.

I also think that many traditionalists don't completely understand the nuances of extramarital affairs. I am not in favor of cheating on one's partner in a loving relationship, but the truth is that many married men are in empty marriages for the sake of the children and have extramarital affairs or visit prostitutes in order to fulfill their own sexual needs. Often the woman understands that the marriage is just a farce too. Some people criticize such men for their supposed immorality but those men are simply being honest about the state of their empty marriage and seeking practical solutions to their problem. This is a problem that can arise down the line when people hastily rush into marriage or decide to get married just for the sake of it.

[WanderingProtagonist]

This is a partial response towards Outcast. He seems to be completely against any kind of "sexual freedom." However, I wonder how come in other cultures like say Latin American. Married Men can simply go to a brothel bang a hooker and as long as its kept "under wraps" its fine. I've seen this happen in French culture as well to an extend. I've seen it in Japan and Korea as well for those people who argue that this cultures are "conservative."

Meanwhile, in the Anglosphere, men like this would be called, "losers" "failures" "cheaters." Men in the Anglosphere needs to go to bars mass approach women and then might "get lucky" if at all. It seems women have all the power in the Anglosphere.

In the Anglosphere men who pay for sex are seen as "losers" because Anglo countries are hyperindustrial societies which place a great deal of emphasis on material and social competition and men are expected to aggressively compete for sexual access. Many Anglo men view recourse to prostitution as a dishonorable way to cheat the competition and like to shame men who do go with prostitutes as "failures" who are not man enough to compete and have no choice but to pay for sex. Many Anglo women have the same attitude since they see themselves as the exalted prize for which men compete and look down on any men who they perceive as not good enough. Latin and Mediterranean societies are not like that at all. There is not as much emphasis on material and social competition to begin with. Neither is there any social shame associated with inceldom or recourse to prostitution. From my experience, in places like Spain and Latin America people don't go out of their way to look down on men who find it difficult to get a girlfriend. Most people are quite understanding and some even openly recommend prostitution as a solution. Even guys who are not incels sometimes visit a prostitute just for the fun of it.

As for @Outcast9428, he once told me that he thought that a guy like myself (an ex-incel) visiting prostitutes in Spain doesn't sound right and that no guy in his college would think that it was normal. I think that Outcast has a very US-centric view of the world even though he's been to Italy and Hungary. I explained to him that in Latin and Mediterranean cultures men have a completely different attitude towards prostitution and don't associate it with shame or sexual failure. In Spain I know guys who are competent WilliamSmith-level pvssyslayers such as my Spanish wrestling instructor and my Latino friend René who bang dozens of women with ease yet still visit a brothel from time to time. I remember when I was at college in Spain and I told some of my male classmates that I had gone to Valencia Chic the previous night and knocked the back out of a hot Brazilian mamacita. Their immediate reaction was one of enthusiasm and they all said that they'd like to try that place out too! Almost every male who I know personally in Spain has slept with a prostitute before. The Mediterranean attitude is completely different.

I also think that many traditionalists don't completely understand the nuances of extramarital affairs. I am not in favor of cheating on one's partner in a loving relationship, but the truth is that many married men are in empty marriages for the sake of the children and have extramarital affairs or visit prostitutes in order to fulfill their own sexual needs. Often the woman understands that the marriage is just a farce too. Some people criticize such men for their supposed immorality but those men are simply being honest about the state of their empty marriage and seeking practical solutions to their problem. This is a problem that can arise down the line when people hastily rush into marriage or decide to get married just for the sake of it.

I had a longer post to this but tried to shorten it couldn't figure out how to. One thing is certain none of this stuff is doing men much favors even in other countries. Japan is still full of herbivore men, and going to brothels isn't going to fix their shit low birth rate issue either. People only should get married if they are certain this will make them happy. I don't know about anyone else here, but I can't do the fool around thing. I'm one of those guys who have a lot of female cousins and even sisters. A guy with a lot of females in his family wouldn't be okay with them whoring. And if I had a daughter I'd want her to find someone who actually cares about her heart and soul, not someone using her as another f**k toy.

This is why I don't even like city girls anymore. Compared to girls from the village, city girls don't even care. I lived next door to a Russian guy for several years, and he was happy with his wife. They never argued, she highly submissive and loving. One day I came over to play with their daughter, I was just a kid at the time and I seen how him and his wife treated each other and I got to thinking foreign people tend to have far less conflict in their relationship compared to Westerners except for the muslim men who would beat the shit out of their women for stepping out of line. I just don't have the type of heart and spirit men have that believe in sleeping around with a lot of women.

I believe thats the whole reason why Western dating culture suck, not enough commitment, everyone having far too many flings and sexual partners. That makes it difficult for the few serious men like myself to settle if someone made a career out of doing that. Every country have their own beliefs in what the people feel is okay compared to everywhere else. People are lost if they believe America is a morally righteous nation just because a few Conservatives try to be all puritan and against everything Leftist are for.

Because it's far from that. People in the U.S. screw around lot more than the people do in Korea and Indonesia. I mean America made cheating shows like Jerry Springer and Cheaters which tried to make it seem deception and whoring were all positive things. Hookup culture never benefited the U.S. either, instead we have nothing but miserable people who wasted their youth dicking around. I guess for men who get laid constantly they don't what its like to love a girl or make sacrifices for someone who loves them back. A guy who f**k a lot of women can't possibly understand that feeling of devotion. The only difference between me and @Outcast9428 is that I don't want a society that's ultimately too strict. I do understand how some men feel like they have no choice but to go to prostitutes just like some men feel like they have no choice but to turn gay. At the end of the day..I still can't do the sleep around with multiple women thing. It would be a lot better if sex androids existed instead to replace the desire to mess around with the daughters of men. Having a whore for a daughter is not something an honorable father can ever be proud of. And if you had daughters that did it, I'm sure it would disappoint you as a dad knowing you raised girls who f**k for a living. I'd rather have Joan of Arc for a daughter over Cardi B.

[Lucas88]

Which is why they shouldn't get married in the first place.

Exactly. They shouldn't. But some people are pressured into marriage due to societal expectations (not so much these days but it used to be like that in a lot of places) or they are young and stupid and make rash decisions motivated by their passionate infatuation. Those people marry young but then a few years later and already with a couple of kids they come to realize that they are not really compatible at all and were merely blinded by their own emotions and now find themselves in an empty loveless marriage that neither of them really wants. Then the frustration begins and people's morality starts to slip. Before long the man is sneaking off to see prostitutes and the woman is having an affair of her own. At this point their marriage is nothing but a farce.

This is a potential problem - and a major one at that - that I see with traditionalism. Traditionalist societies like the kind which Outcast advocates encourage many people to marry at a young age (sometimes even as early as in their teens) or even arrange marriages for young people. Those teenage newlyweds might enthusiastically sleep with each other out of horniness and with the hormones pumping and the girl might become pregnant as a result, but at that age very few people know what they really want, and it often happens that such teenage newlyweds fall out of love a few years down the line and then become extremely dissatisfied with their marriage. The risk of this happening is probably even greater is the marriage is an arranged one. What do those people do in an empty loveless marriage? The man is likely to have an affair or see prostitutes in order to fulfill his own sexual needs. The woman might even do the same or otherwise will continue to suffer under a miserable marital arrangement. But in traditionalist societies adultery is often a criminal offense and, if caught, the affair-haver will likely be punished by the law or at least subjected to strong social ridicule for violating a marriage arrangement that he/she doesn't even want or perhaps never wanted.

I know some old-timers who talk about how they felt obligated to remain in a miserable and unfulfilling marriage due to societal expectations and traditional mores. All they wanted was to get out. This was a problem for some people in 1950s style conservative societies and was probably even worse in earlier full-on traditionalist societies. No wonder many people opted for divorce when society became more liberal after the 60s. Many - including some fairly normal people and not just the radical Marxists - saw the new liberalized social climate as a breath of fresh air. It seems that under the surface plenty of people weren't too comfortable traditionalism or whatever tamer vestige of it existed back then.

But if some men want to have sex with a lot of girls to make up for lost time, well hell.

That happened to me after my first long-term relationship failed. I was 23 years old and totally disillusioned with relationships at that point. I was living in Spain and was lured by the prospect of fulfilling all of the fantasies that I'd missed out on as a teenager by being an incel back in the UK. All of a sudden I was surrounded by dozens of thick, curvaceous, brown-skinned Latin American hotties with huge asses and big phat titties and I was now single and totally numb to love due to my prior heartache. I just went crazy and started getting on every girl that I could.

One-night stands or visiting a prostitute might make a guy who craves love and commitment emotionally worse and such guys should avoid that sort of things, but I personally don't take relationships or encounters with women seriously anymore and just see it all as a bit of fun and so I am not hurt emotionally by any sexual encounters. For me at this point there are way more important things that chasing women or relationships. Among these things I count martial arts training and creative endeavors.

So I know it's possible for me to do that. But I live in California of all places, I already know my odds of finding someone to care for here is never happening.

Dating is especially hard in California because the state has always been seen as a place where all the cool shit happens and everybody who moves there wants to "make it big". The result of this is a hypercompetitive social climate full of superficiality and all kinds of excesses. This is not a good environment for healthy dating. In fact it's a recipe for disaster and more genuine people often cannot function in such an environment.

I know that you say that you have no plans to move anywhere else and that you want to do what you can to take care of your momma, but I think that you really would have a better chance to meet somebody in a more normal society than California. I agree that a rural community or smaller city in somewhere like Romania might suit you for this purpose. You could probably find a genuine relationship in that sort of environment. In smaller cities in places like Southern and Eastern Europe people are generally nowhere near as genetically modified as in places like Los Angeles and San Francisco. I reckon you could get a girl.

[Outcast9428]

My point of view is being slightly misrepresented here…

I actually do support legal prostitution for single, unmarried men. The reason I was arguing with cornfed is because he thinks it’s okay for married men to go to prostitutes which I am not in favor of.

And I am also strongly against hookup and kink culture. So no I don’t support men going to bars and seducing women.

[WanderingProtagonist]

Which is why they shouldn't get married in the first place.

Exactly. They shouldn't. But some people are pressured into marriage due to societal expectations (not so much these days but it used to be like that in a lot of places) or they are young and stupid and make rash decisions motivated by their passionate infatuation. Those people marry young but then a few years later and already with a couple of kids they come to realize that they are not really compatible at all and were merely blinded by their own emotions and now find themselves in an empty loveless marriage that neither of them really wants. Then the frustration begins and people's morality starts to slip. Before long the man is sneaking off to see prostitutes and the woman is having an affair of her own. At this point their marriage is nothing but a farce.

This is a potential problem - and a major one at that - that I see with traditionalism. Traditionalist societies like the kind which Outcast advocates encourage many people to marry at a young age (sometimes even as early as in their teens) or even arrange marriages for young people. Those teenage newlyweds might enthusiastically sleep with each other out of horniness and with the hormones pumping and the girl might become pregnant as a result, but at that age very few people know what they really want, and it often happens that such teenage newlyweds fall out of love a few years down the line and then become extremely dissatisfied with their marriage. The risk of this happening is probably even greater is the marriage is an arranged one. What do those people do in an empty loveless marriage? The man is likely to have an affair or see prostitutes in order to fulfill his own sexual needs. The woman might even do the same or otherwise will continue to suffer under a miserable marital arrangement. But in traditionalist societies adultery is often a criminal offense and, if caught, the affair-haver will likely be punished by the law or at least subjected to strong social ridicule for violating a marriage arrangement that he/she doesn't even want or perhaps never wanted.

I know some old-timers who talk about how they felt obligated to remain in a miserable and unfulfilling marriage due to societal expectations and traditional mores. All they wanted was to get out. This was a problem for some people in 1950s style conservative societies and was probably even worse in earlier full-on traditionalist societies. No wonder many people opted for divorce when society became more liberal after the 60s. Many - including some fairly normal people and not just the radical Marxists - saw the new liberalized social climate as a breath of fresh air. It seems that under the surface plenty of people weren't too comfortable traditionalism or whatever tamer vestige of it existed back then.

But if some men want to have sex with a lot of girls to make up for lost time, well hell.

That happened to me after my first long-term relationship failed. I was 23 years old and totally disillusioned with relationships at that point. I was living in Spain and was lured by the prospect of fulfilling all of the fantasies that I'd missed out on as a teenager by being an incel back in the UK. All of a sudden I was surrounded by dozens of thick, curvaceous, brown-skinned Latin American hotties with huge asses and big phat titties and I was now single and totally numb to love due to my prior heartache. I just went crazy and started getting on every girl that I could.

One-night stands or visiting a prostitute might make a guy who craves love and commitment emotionally worse and such guys should avoid that sort of things, but I personally don't take relationships or encounters with women seriously anymore and just see it all as a bit of fun and so I am not hurt emotionally by any sexual encounters. For me at this point there are way more important things that chasing women or relationships. Among these things I count martial arts training and creative endeavors.

So I know it's possible for me to do that. But I live in California of all places, I already know my odds of finding someone to care for here is never happening.

Dating is especially hard in California because the state has always been seen as a place where all the cool shit happens and everybody who moves there wants to "make it big". The result of this is a hypercompetitive social climate full of superficiality and all kinds of excesses. This is not a good environment for healthy dating. In fact it's a recipe for disaster and more genuine people often cannot function in such an environment.

I know that you say that you have no plans to move anywhere else and that you want to do what you can to take care of your momma, but I think that you really would have a better chance to meet somebody in a more normal society than California. I agree that a rural community or smaller city in somewhere like Romania might suit you for this purpose. You could probably find a genuine relationship in that sort of environment. In smaller cities in places like Southern and Eastern Europe people are generally nowhere near as genetically modified as in places like Los Angeles and San Francisco. I reckon you could get a girl.

No I never said I didn't want to leave at all, I think I said I just couldn't figure out where I wanted to go. All my family pretty much reside here in California, all my cousins are here, my mom, aunt, brother, everyone except my Uncles and grandmother who are all in other states. I guess for me it's just the nostalgia I miss about this place. There is a neighborhood in my city that I normally go to sometimes, and it's changed to some degree but I definitely feel like I no longer belong here anymore. It's not just California though, the whole country is at war with itself. I mean back in the day I use to go for Gothic girls since I dressed like that because I thought all the piercings and dark clothing made them interesting people.

So I met this Hispanic girl who was a hardcore goth right in Oakland, and she tried to get me to come up there but I was too afraid because of all the damn violence in Oakland. I can relate to how you feel regarding the inceldom, so I honestly don't judge you at all for what you had to do in order to compensate for the lost time in your life in the UK. I strongly sympathize with men that have had shit luck throughout most of their lives and made decisions whether it was out of desperation or pure frustration. It's harder for me to put men down or judge them because they struggled so bad. I know how it feels and it's painful as hell. I see the prostitution solution as defeatism but at the same time I don't look down on the men that feel like they have no choice. It's usually the ones who just do it for the sake of just doing it I don't understand.

Like how so many men travel abroad just to have sex in other countries even if they don't have to do that. I would never be able to visit a place like Thailand, I'm not saying the aught to ban sex tourism and all that. If incel guys are using these methods to combat their issue vs committing suicide or going on a full blown killing spree like what happened with guys like Elliot Rodger or that Virginia Tech shooter Seung-Hui Cho that just couldn't take it anymore. Governments can do more to help men, but I see how a lot of them contributing to why men are struggling.

They intentionally put men in situations where they are vulnerable and create these shitty hostile environments that often work against them. People will then judge and ridicule troubled men who are vulnerable which doesn't help, they only reinforce the damn problem by being unsympathetic assholes. It's like yes what those shooters did was wrong, but you have to take into consideration, they were also mistreated by society to some degree and nobody tried to do anything to help any of them. You can't help troubled individuals by being assholes and further treating them like shit. They will simply retaliate eventually out of anger and frustration. I realized how countries like the U.S. is heavily isolated a lot more now than it's ever been. But this is a pattern I've noticed with all "first world" countries. I saw a video on youtube with this guy in Japan crying because he felt so lonely but was too afraid to talk to the girls because he feared getting rejected. How did he deal with this? He started going into a cafe, and just hanging out online.

Then there was that one story about this guy in China that spent most of his life wife searching but because he didn't earn nearly enough he was overlooked by women and he ended up dating a damn sex doll which he actually hauled around in public with him. I rarely see these depressing type moments happening to women, but this stuff is real with us men. And then you got men who aren't even allies putting down struggling men so they really aren't any better than the women that do it.

[Lucas88]

They intentionally put men in situations where they are vulnerable and create these shitty hostile environments that often work against them. People will then judge and ridicule troubled men who are vulnerable which doesn't help, they only reinforce the damn problem by being unsympathetic assholes. It's like yes what those shooters did was wrong, but you have to take into consideration, they were also mistreated by society to some degree and nobody tried to do anything to help any of them. You can't help troubled individuals by being assholes and further treating them like shit. They will simply retaliate eventually out of anger and frustration. I realized how countries like the U.S. is heavily isolated a lot more now than it's ever been. But this is a pattern I've noticed with all "first world" countries. I saw a video on youtube with this guy in Japan crying because he felt so lonely but was too afraid to talk to the girls because he feared getting rejected. How did he deal with this? He started going into a cafe, and just hanging out online.

Then there was that one story about this guy in China that spent most of his life wife searching but because he didn't earn nearly enough he was overlooked by women and he ended up dating a damn sex doll which he actually hauled around in public with him. I rarely see these depressing type moments happening to women, but this stuff is real with us men. And then you got men who aren't even allies putting down struggling men so they really aren't any better than the women that do it.

All of what you've described is a result of high competitivity. When a society becomes too heavily fixated on the pursuit of material success and social status or otherwise adopts California-style narcissist culture (this is significant since California seems to want to export its own Hollywood values to the rest of the world), most people become increasingly shallow and materialistic as well as totally self-absorbed and antisocial. A culture emerges in which everybody becomes obsessed with being perceived as "winners" and then like to shit on everybody who they perceive as below them or as "losers". This is certainly the case is Anglo countries like the US and the UK which are cutthroat business cultures and reaches extreme levels at certain points of higher concentration such as Los Angeles, New York and London. The same kind of attitude is also prevalent in East Asian societies such as Japan and China which likewise have a heavy focus on careerism and the pursuit of wealth. In my experience those kinds of societies are the most alienating and are just terrible for people's mental health. When the shitting on the less fortunate becomes too intense the consequences are often tragic because people can only take so much. Eventually the more psychologically vulnerable will either kill themselves or kill others.

The reason why I like Southern Europe and Latin America so much is because those societies seem to be more resistant to that same culture of high competitivity. People in Spain and other Mediterranean countries aren't obsessed with outcompeting others and shitting on the less fortunate like many Americans are. People there mostly seek to be comfortable and live a balanced life. Those countries have never been infected with the Protestant work ethic of Northern Europe. Economic competition doesn't take center stage and obsession with wealth isn't as prevalent as it is in the Anglosphere or East Asia. Much of Latin America is the same. Plenty of people are laid back and more interested in hanging out with friends, doing simple things and having a good time than competing like crazy people and obsessing over social status. Many Anglos think that Mediterraneans and Latinos are lazy and unmotivated but they just have a more balanced conception of life. These are the only societies that I'm interested in nowadays - those that are neither hypercompetitive nor overly materialistic. I can actually feel relaxed and mentally stable in those countries. I feel much less alienated than I did in the UK or Japan. The hypercompetitive and materialistic societies of the Anglosphere and East Asia simply alienate me to the point of desperation and destroy my mental health. I'm not well suited to the Anglosphere and I never intend to go back to Japan.

The way that I see it is that there are still a few oases of normality in a crazy, messed-up dystopian world. I am just concerned that the US is going to export its toxic values and trends to the still relatively sane parts of the world via social media. I read something a while ago about how US narc culture has started to enter Brazil via Facebook. Those trends are promoted to the younger generation and then they start to imitate the media that they consume. Maybe this is what is meant by "Californication". I don't want other cultures to become Americanized or Californicated - i.e., fcuked up by Cali values and trends. I want as many of them as possible to retain their own unique identities as much as possible. I want Spain to remain Spain, Italy to remain Italy, and Latin America to forge its own identity without letting in the garbage values and trends of the US.

[WanderingProtagonist]

They intentionally put men in situations where they are vulnerable and create these shitty hostile environments that often work against them. People will then judge and ridicule troubled men who are vulnerable which doesn't help, they only reinforce the damn problem by being unsympathetic assholes. It's like yes what those shooters did was wrong, but you have to take into consideration, they were also mistreated by society to some degree and nobody tried to do anything to help any of them. You can't help troubled individuals by being assholes and further treating them like shit. They will simply retaliate eventually out of anger and frustration. I realized how countries like the U.S. is heavily isolated a lot more now than it's ever been. But this is a pattern I've noticed with all "first world" countries. I saw a video on youtube with this guy in Japan crying because he felt so lonely but was too afraid to talk to the girls because he feared getting rejected. How did he deal with this? He started going into a cafe, and just hanging out online.

Then there was that one story about this guy in China that spent most of his life wife searching but because he didn't earn nearly enough he was overlooked by women and he ended up dating a damn sex doll which he actually hauled around in public with him. I rarely see these depressing type moments happening to women, but this stuff is real with us men. And then you got men who aren't even allies putting down struggling men so they really aren't any better than the women that do it.

All of what you've described is a result of high competitivity. When a society becomes too heavily fixated on the pursuit of material success and social status or otherwise adopts California-style narcissist culture (this is significant since California seems to want to export its own Hollywood values to the rest of the world), most people become increasingly shallow and materialistic as well as totally self-absorbed and antisocial. A culture emerges in which everybody becomes obsessed with being perceived as "winners" and then like to shit on everybody who they perceive as below them or as "losers". This is certainly the case is Anglo countries like the US and the UK which are cutthroat business cultures and reaches extreme levels at certain points of higher concentration such as Los Angeles, New York and London. The same kind of attitude is also prevalent in East Asian societies such as Japan and China which likewise have a heavy focus on careerism and the pursuit of wealth. In my experience those kinds of societies are the most alienating and are just terrible for people's mental health. When the shitting on the less fortunate becomes too intense the consequences are often tragic because people can only take so much. Eventually the more psychologically vulnerable will either kill themselves or kill others.

The reason why I like Southern Europe and Latin America so much is because those societies seem to be more resistant to that same culture of high competitivity. People in Spain and other Mediterranean countries aren't obsessed with outcompeting others and shitting on the less fortunate like many Americans are. People there mostly seek to be comfortable and live a balanced life. Those countries have never been infected with the Protestant work ethic of Northern Europe. Economic competition doesn't take center stage and obsession with wealth isn't as prevalent as it is in the Anglosphere or East Asia. Much of Latin America is the same. Plenty of people are laid back and more interested in hanging out with friends, doing simple things and having a good time than competing like crazy people and obsessing over social status. Many Anglos think that Mediterraneans and Latinos are lazy and unmotivated but they just have a more balanced conception of life. These are the only societies that I'm interested in nowadays - those that are neither hypercompetitive nor overly materialistic. I can actually feel relaxed and mentally stable in those countries. I feel much less alienated than I did in the UK or Japan. The hypercompetitive and materialistic societies of the Anglosphere and East Asia simply alienate me to the point of desperation and destroy my mental health. I'm not well suited to the Anglosphere and I never intend to go back to Japan.

The way that I see it is that there are still a few oases of normality in a crazy, messed-up dystopian world. I am just concerned that the US is going to export its toxic values and trends to the still relatively sane parts of the world via social media. I read something a while ago about how US narc culture has started to enter Brazil via Facebook. Those trends are promoted to the younger generation and then they start to imitate the media that they consume. Maybe this is what is meant by "Californication". I don't want other cultures to become Americanized or Californicated - i.e., fcuked up by Cali values and trends. I want as many of them as possible to retain their own unique identities as much as possible. I want Spain to remain Spain, Italy to remain Italy, and Latin America to forge its own identity without letting in the garbage values and trends of the US.

The only way for that to not happen is if America gets dethroned, which ever nation is the one leading people will be willing to imitate that country that's in charge. I use to think America declining could be a good thing and an example for these other nations. I don't think they see the consequences they have to have their comfort shattered. They need to also be exposed to how bad it is up here also so they know where their asses is headed if they keep imitating California or Western civilization in general. There's nothing fun what so ever living like this every day fearing that you can end up on the street. Putting up with POS people like Newsom that was probably a bitch ass prick even when he was a child and always dreamed about seeing people turn apart by his policies and ideas. That's why he gets mad at anyone that leaves California and tries to tax them because he gets off on seeing people struggle for their dear life, it makes his faggoty ass aroused to watch people lose their apartment or homes. If he really cared he would let people go where they can afford to survive but No, he wants people to stay and suffer because it amuses him..I wish somebody would do a Abe on that dick.

I see more people these days living in tents and inside of their vehicles now than I ever did. Sometimes they even park in the apartment complex I live in so I see people often naked outside my window, people lying all over the ground in their own waste and filth.
When I worked security I use to meet homeless kids and teenagers all the damn time. People are just flat out mental if they want to be like this place. Hollywood is also in major decline with all the scandels, the crap ass SJW PC movies they won't stop making, they aren't going to survive for long if they keep making shitty films that aren't earning profit. That's why Jame's Cameron got upset about Terminator Dark Fate failing, he lost a whole lot of money on that film so much he said he said he was never making anymore Terminator films ever again when clearly he f***ed up the product himself.

Another thing is that a lot of Latinos move up here to California, that's why people make fun of it and say it's Mexico. This state has more Latino people living here than anywhere else in America. For some reason they love this state and I'll never know why but when they do get here, they definitely contribute to the problems the shit state already has. The cost of living rose up because so many of them moved here and the ones in gangs they worsen the already gang infested issues that blacks created long ago in the 1970s-1980s that still go on today. Once everyone else got here, we now have Samoan thugs and thugs of every race in this state.

As for Brazil, they were already a shithole in certain parts with favalas being the worse. They actually filmed two movies in poor violent riddled areas and I think during their shooting with City Of GOD, they actually had to dodge real bullets and gun fights during the making of that movie because they filmed it in one of the poorest ghettos of Brazil. Same thing with City Of Men. The director said he wanted the films to feel realistic and authentic as possible so he put a lot of people at risk just to produce it even though they were already at risk since all the actors and actresses actually lived in the favalas. Even the kids had no acting training and he just let them go off script half the time.

Another thing is some of these countries need to keep leftism out of their country too especially the side of it that wrecked California. Leftist are the main people that bring down any country by making demands for the same shit policies that destroyed their own states and eventually their entire country. Then they go abroad thinking they are doing "justice" and find ways to f**k up overseas by manipulating and mind raping the people in other countries who are easily confused and highly uneducated about the destruction of the West. These are normally people that were fine the way they were before American leftism made it's way into those countries.

This is why you see a lot of those pride marches in almost every country now. America has a military base in a lot of countries that allows them to have a presence, because their entire purpose and goal is to keep dominating and trying to convert the world into being just like them. I honestly believe the U.S. has ruled for far too long, but I also don't want China to take over either.... It's just when you think about it, who is qualified to lead? Almost none of these nations are because they don't have the power or influence to do it. It's either going to be Russia, China, or North Korea next in line. The possibilities is definitely high with China, low with Korea, and in the middle with Russia. China has more wealth than both of those countries put together.

[Outcast9428]

They intentionally put men in situations where they are vulnerable and create these shitty hostile environments that often work against them. People will then judge and ridicule troubled men who are vulnerable which doesn't help, they only reinforce the damn problem by being unsympathetic assholes. It's like yes what those shooters did was wrong, but you have to take into consideration, they were also mistreated by society to some degree and nobody tried to do anything to help any of them. You can't help troubled individuals by being assholes and further treating them like shit. They will simply retaliate eventually out of anger and frustration. I realized how countries like the U.S. is heavily isolated a lot more now than it's ever been. But this is a pattern I've noticed with all "first world" countries. I saw a video on youtube with this guy in Japan crying because he felt so lonely but was too afraid to talk to the girls because he feared getting rejected. How did he deal with this? He started going into a cafe, and just hanging out online.

Then there was that one story about this guy in China that spent most of his life wife searching but because he didn't earn nearly enough he was overlooked by women and he ended up dating a damn sex doll which he actually hauled around in public with him. I rarely see these depressing type moments happening to women, but this stuff is real with us men. And then you got men who aren't even allies putting down struggling men so they really aren't any better than the women that do it.

All of what you've described is a result of high competitivity. When a society becomes too heavily fixated on the pursuit of material success and social status or otherwise adopts California-style narcissist culture (this is significant since California seems to want to export its own Hollywood values to the rest of the world), most people become increasingly shallow and materialistic as well as totally self-absorbed and antisocial. A culture emerges in which everybody becomes obsessed with being perceived as "winners" and then like to shit on everybody who they perceive as below them or as "losers". This is certainly the case is Anglo countries like the US and the UK which are cutthroat business cultures and reaches extreme levels at certain points of higher concentration such as Los Angeles, New York and London. The same kind of attitude is also prevalent in East Asian societies such as Japan and China which likewise have a heavy focus on careerism and the pursuit of wealth. In my experience those kinds of societies are the most alienating and are just terrible for people's mental health. When the shitting on the less fortunate becomes too intense the consequences are often tragic because people can only take so much. Eventually the more psychologically vulnerable will either kill themselves or kill others.

The reason why I like Southern Europe and Latin America so much is because those societies seem to be more resistant to that same culture of high competitivity. People in Spain and other Mediterranean countries aren't obsessed with outcompeting others and shitting on the less fortunate like many Americans are. People there mostly seek to be comfortable and live a balanced life. Those countries have never been infected with the Protestant work ethic of Northern Europe. Economic competition doesn't take center stage and obsession with wealth isn't as prevalent as it is in the Anglosphere or East Asia. Much of Latin America is the same. Plenty of people are laid back and more interested in hanging out with friends, doing simple things and having a good time than competing like crazy people and obsessing over social status. Many Anglos think that Mediterraneans and Latinos are lazy and unmotivated but they just have a more balanced conception of life. These are the only societies that I'm interested in nowadays - those that are neither hypercompetitive nor overly materialistic. I can actually feel relaxed and mentally stable in those countries. I feel much less alienated than I did in the UK or Japan. The hypercompetitive and materialistic societies of the Anglosphere and East Asia simply alienate me to the point of desperation and destroy my mental health. I'm not well suited to the Anglosphere and I never intend to go back to Japan.

The way that I see it is that there are still a few oases of normality in a crazy, messed-up dystopian world. I am just concerned that the US is going to export its toxic values and trends to the still relatively sane parts of the world via social media. I read something a while ago about how US narc culture has started to enter Brazil via Facebook. Those trends are promoted to the younger generation and then they start to imitate the media that they consume. Maybe this is what is meant by "Californication". I don't want other cultures to become Americanized or Californicated - i.e., fcuked up by Cali values and trends. I want as many of them as possible to retain their own unique identities as much as possible. I want Spain to remain Spain, Italy to remain Italy, and Latin America to forge its own identity without letting in the garbage values and trends of the US.

The hypercompetitive nature of the Anglo world is a big part of why I don't like it. And I would also say that while I love everything else about Japan, that is the part of Japanese culture I would dislike the most. To me, a job is a job. Its not there to provide you with "your meaning in life" or something pretentious like that. Your job is there to pay the bills and beyond that money to pursue what you really want in life. To me, working is part of holding up my end of a social contract. When someone makes work their entire life though, they are throwing it away. Such a person does not need to be enslaved because they've already enslaved themselves. A corporation is not entitled to controlling my entire life and it dare not tell me to act like my labor is more important then my family life. My labor is given to you for the sake of my family. I do not provide it out of generosity and do not ask me to pretend that I do.

That's why I support true traditionalism so much and shit on center-right, mainstream conservatism a lot. Mainstream conservatism has a lot of the same values on the surface but at the end of the day, GDP growth and money drive them more then anything. Its why they don't push back on women having full time careers when they should be devoting the majority of, if not their entire energy, to home life. Because at the end of the day, corporate profits matter more to them then family values. Thankfully Tucker Carlson is really pushing back on that in the most acceptable way that he can. Mentioning how corporations giving money to women to have abortions is incredibly offensive to the fundamental principle of womanhood which is that they are society's nurturers and emotional stabilizers. When corporations pay women to get abortions, they're telling those women that working for them and making them money is more important then them getting married and having kids. That's absolutely outrageous and its a sick sign of where our society is that corporations can do that and not get widespread condemnation for it.

[WanderingProtagonist]

They intentionally put men in situations where they are vulnerable and create these shitty hostile environments that often work against them. People will then judge and ridicule troubled men who are vulnerable which doesn't help, they only reinforce the damn problem by being unsympathetic assholes. It's like yes what those shooters did was wrong, but you have to take into consideration, they were also mistreated by society to some degree and nobody tried to do anything to help any of them. You can't help troubled individuals by being assholes and further treating them like shit. They will simply retaliate eventually out of anger and frustration. I realized how countries like the U.S. is heavily isolated a lot more now than it's ever been. But this is a pattern I've noticed with all "first world" countries. I saw a video on youtube with this guy in Japan crying because he felt so lonely but was too afraid to talk to the girls because he feared getting rejected. How did he deal with this? He started going into a cafe, and just hanging out online.

Then there was that one story about this guy in China that spent most of his life wife searching but because he didn't earn nearly enough he was overlooked by women and he ended up dating a damn sex doll which he actually hauled around in public with him. I rarely see these depressing type moments happening to women, but this stuff is real with us men. And then you got men who aren't even allies putting down struggling men so they really aren't any better than the women that do it.

All of what you've described is a result of high competitivity. When a society becomes too heavily fixated on the pursuit of material success and social status or otherwise adopts California-style narcissist culture (this is significant since California seems to want to export its own Hollywood values to the rest of the world), most people become increasingly shallow and materialistic as well as totally self-absorbed and antisocial. A culture emerges in which everybody becomes obsessed with being perceived as "winners" and then like to shit on everybody who they perceive as below them or as "losers". This is certainly the case is Anglo countries like the US and the UK which are cutthroat business cultures and reaches extreme levels at certain points of higher concentration such as Los Angeles, New York and London. The same kind of attitude is also prevalent in East Asian societies such as Japan and China which likewise have a heavy focus on careerism and the pursuit of wealth. In my experience those kinds of societies are the most alienating and are just terrible for people's mental health. When the shitting on the less fortunate becomes too intense the consequences are often tragic because people can only take so much. Eventually the more psychologically vulnerable will either kill themselves or kill others.

The reason why I like Southern Europe and Latin America so much is because those societies seem to be more resistant to that same culture of high competitivity. People in Spain and other Mediterranean countries aren't obsessed with outcompeting others and shitting on the less fortunate like many Americans are. People there mostly seek to be comfortable and live a balanced life. Those countries have never been infected with the Protestant work ethic of Northern Europe. Economic competition doesn't take center stage and obsession with wealth isn't as prevalent as it is in the Anglosphere or East Asia. Much of Latin America is the same. Plenty of people are laid back and more interested in hanging out with friends, doing simple things and having a good time than competing like crazy people and obsessing over social status. Many Anglos think that Mediterraneans and Latinos are lazy and unmotivated but they just have a more balanced conception of life. These are the only societies that I'm interested in nowadays - those that are neither hypercompetitive nor overly materialistic. I can actually feel relaxed and mentally stable in those countries. I feel much less alienated than I did in the UK or Japan. The hypercompetitive and materialistic societies of the Anglosphere and East Asia simply alienate me to the point of desperation and destroy my mental health. I'm not well suited to the Anglosphere and I never intend to go back to Japan.

The way that I see it is that there are still a few oases of normality in a crazy, messed-up dystopian world. I am just concerned that the US is going to export its toxic values and trends to the still relatively sane parts of the world via social media. I read something a while ago about how US narc culture has started to enter Brazil via Facebook. Those trends are promoted to the younger generation and then they start to imitate the media that they consume. Maybe this is what is meant by "Californication". I don't want other cultures to become Americanized or Californicated - i.e., fcuked up by Cali values and trends. I want as many of them as possible to retain their own unique identities as much as possible. I want Spain to remain Spain, Italy to remain Italy, and Latin America to forge its own identity without letting in the garbage values and trends of the US.

The hypercompetitive nature of the Anglo world is a big part of why I don't like it. And I would also say that while I love everything else about Japan, that is the part of Japanese culture I would dislike the most. To me, a job is a job. Its not there to provide you with "your meaning in life" or something pretentious like that. Your job is there to pay the bills and beyond that money to pursue what you really want in life. To me, working is part of holding up my end of a social contract. When someone makes work their entire life though, they are throwing it away. Such a person does not need to be enslaved because they've already enslaved themselves. A corporation is not entitled to controlling my entire life and it dare not tell me to act like my labor is more important then my family life. My labor is given to you for the sake of my family. I do not provide it out of generosity and do not ask me to pretend that I do.

That's why I support true traditionalism so much and shit on center-right, mainstream conservatism a lot. Mainstream conservatism has a lot of the same values on the surface but at the end of the day, GDP growth and money drive them more then anything. Its why they don't push back on women having full time careers when they should be devoting the majority of, if not their entire energy, to home life. Because at the end of the day, corporate profits matter more to them then family values. Thankfully Tucker Carlson is really pushing back on that in the most acceptable way that he can. Mentioning how corporations giving money to women to have abortions is incredibly offensive to the fundamental principle of womanhood which is that they are society's nurturers and emotional stabilizers. When corporations pay women to get abortions, they're telling those women that working for them and making them money is more important then them getting married and having kids. That's absolutely outrageous and its a sick sign of where our society is that corporations can do that and not get widespread condemnation for it.

Have to admit, I agree with what you just wrote here. Because it's certainly is true, especially the part about the child killings which is what I call it instead of abortions. The only people who seem to push for it though is white women and Jewish women. I don't see a gang of Asian or Latino women showing up at those abortion rallies advocating for abortions. It's always white women outnumbering everyone at those rallies.You will have black women among them, but it's still always white females that outnumber every other woman at those gatherings and they are mostly the ones who attack churches and stuff using violence. Just like that white BLM chick that set fire to a bunch of police vehicles before her dumbass got arrested. White people in the U.S. are so easily brainwashed they believe killing their own kids is doing negros a favor since they probably believe having a white child is "racist." It's the same thing with the whole refugee welcome shit. It's always white women with those signs, it's as if they honestly hate their race and will do anything to make sure their own kind don't survive whether it through child killings or flooding their own nations full of black/brown people. Then they convince some of their cucked out failed men to become part of it.

[Outcast9428]

They intentionally put men in situations where they are vulnerable and create these shitty hostile environments that often work against them. People will then judge and ridicule troubled men who are vulnerable which doesn't help, they only reinforce the damn problem by being unsympathetic assholes. It's like yes what those shooters did was wrong, but you have to take into consideration, they were also mistreated by society to some degree and nobody tried to do anything to help any of them. You can't help troubled individuals by being assholes and further treating them like shit. They will simply retaliate eventually out of anger and frustration. I realized how countries like the U.S. is heavily isolated a lot more now than it's ever been. But this is a pattern I've noticed with all "first world" countries. I saw a video on youtube with this guy in Japan crying because he felt so lonely but was too afraid to talk to the girls because he feared getting rejected. How did he deal with this? He started going into a cafe, and just hanging out online.

Then there was that one story about this guy in China that spent most of his life wife searching but because he didn't earn nearly enough he was overlooked by women and he ended up dating a damn sex doll which he actually hauled around in public with him. I rarely see these depressing type moments happening to women, but this stuff is real with us men. And then you got men who aren't even allies putting down struggling men so they really aren't any better than the women that do it.

All of what you've described is a result of high competitivity. When a society becomes too heavily fixated on the pursuit of material success and social status or otherwise adopts California-style narcissist culture (this is significant since California seems to want to export its own Hollywood values to the rest of the world), most people become increasingly shallow and materialistic as well as totally self-absorbed and antisocial. A culture emerges in which everybody becomes obsessed with being perceived as "winners" and then like to shit on everybody who they perceive as below them or as "losers". This is certainly the case is Anglo countries like the US and the UK which are cutthroat business cultures and reaches extreme levels at certain points of higher concentration such as Los Angeles, New York and London. The same kind of attitude is also prevalent in East Asian societies such as Japan and China which likewise have a heavy focus on careerism and the pursuit of wealth. In my experience those kinds of societies are the most alienating and are just terrible for people's mental health. When the shitting on the less fortunate becomes too intense the consequences are often tragic because people can only take so much. Eventually the more psychologically vulnerable will either kill themselves or kill others.

The reason why I like Southern Europe and Latin America so much is because those societies seem to be more resistant to that same culture of high competitivity. People in Spain and other Mediterranean countries aren't obsessed with outcompeting others and shitting on the less fortunate like many Americans are. People there mostly seek to be comfortable and live a balanced life. Those countries have never been infected with the Protestant work ethic of Northern Europe. Economic competition doesn't take center stage and obsession with wealth isn't as prevalent as it is in the Anglosphere or East Asia. Much of Latin America is the same. Plenty of people are laid back and more interested in hanging out with friends, doing simple things and having a good time than competing like crazy people and obsessing over social status. Many Anglos think that Mediterraneans and Latinos are lazy and unmotivated but they just have a more balanced conception of life. These are the only societies that I'm interested in nowadays - those that are neither hypercompetitive nor overly materialistic. I can actually feel relaxed and mentally stable in those countries. I feel much less alienated than I did in the UK or Japan. The hypercompetitive and materialistic societies of the Anglosphere and East Asia simply alienate me to the point of desperation and destroy my mental health. I'm not well suited to the Anglosphere and I never intend to go back to Japan.

The way that I see it is that there are still a few oases of normality in a crazy, messed-up dystopian world. I am just concerned that the US is going to export its toxic values and trends to the still relatively sane parts of the world via social media. I read something a while ago about how US narc culture has started to enter Brazil via Facebook. Those trends are promoted to the younger generation and then they start to imitate the media that they consume. Maybe this is what is meant by "Californication". I don't want other cultures to become Americanized or Californicated - i.e., fcuked up by Cali values and trends. I want as many of them as possible to retain their own unique identities as much as possible. I want Spain to remain Spain, Italy to remain Italy, and Latin America to forge its own identity without letting in the garbage values and trends of the US.

The hypercompetitive nature of the Anglo world is a big part of why I don't like it. And I would also say that while I love everything else about Japan, that is the part of Japanese culture I would dislike the most. To me, a job is a job. Its not there to provide you with "your meaning in life" or something pretentious like that. Your job is there to pay the bills and beyond that money to pursue what you really want in life. To me, working is part of holding up my end of a social contract. When someone makes work their entire life though, they are throwing it away. Such a person does not need to be enslaved because they've already enslaved themselves. A corporation is not entitled to controlling my entire life and it dare not tell me to act like my labor is more important then my family life. My labor is given to you for the sake of my family. I do not provide it out of generosity and do not ask me to pretend that I do.

That's why I support true traditionalism so much and shit on center-right, mainstream conservatism a lot. Mainstream conservatism has a lot of the same values on the surface but at the end of the day, GDP growth and money drive them more then anything. Its why they don't push back on women having full time careers when they should be devoting the majority of, if not their entire energy, to home life. Because at the end of the day, corporate profits matter more to them then family values. Thankfully Tucker Carlson is really pushing back on that in the most acceptable way that he can. Mentioning how corporations giving money to women to have abortions is incredibly offensive to the fundamental principle of womanhood which is that they are society's nurturers and emotional stabilizers. When corporations pay women to get abortions, they're telling those women that working for them and making them money is more important then them getting married and having kids. That's absolutely outrageous and its a sick sign of where our society is that corporations can do that and not get widespread condemnation for it.

Have to admit, I agree with what you just wrote here. Because it's certainly is true, especially the part about the child killings which is what I call it instead of abortions. The only people who seem to push for it though is white women and Jewish women. I don't see a gang of Asian or Latino women showing up at those abortion rallies advocating for abortions. It's always white women outnumbering everyone at those rallies.You will have black women among them, but it's still always white females that outnumber every other woman at those gatherings and they are mostly the ones who attack churches and stuff using violence. Just like that white BLM chick that set fire to a bunch of police vehicles before her dumbass got arrested. White people in the U.S. are so easily brainwashed they believe killing their own kids is doing negros a favor since they probably believe having a white child is "racist." It's the same thing with the whole refugee welcome shit. It's always white women with those signs, it's as if they honestly hate their race and will do anything to make sure their own kind don't survive whether it through child killings or flooding their own nations full of black/brown people. Then they convince some of their cucked out failed men to become part of it.

That's why a lot of white men these days dislike their own women so much and are looking to Latina and Asian women as an alternative. Occasionally I feel like I'm not being fair to white women because I have met some strongly conservative white girls who were sweet and weren't on board with all this bullshit. But the truth is they are a minority. And among college educated women in particular. Girls who came from some of the most strongly traditionalist families I've heard of were still manipulated by the college environment. There are plenty of white guys like myself who go to college and see what an utterly toxic culture it is and that, if anything, makes us extremely conservative in response. There was actually an article written about it that I read and very much related to...

https://newrepublic.com/article/164408/ ... nservatism

College educated white men are actually evenly split on voting Republican and voting Democrat. College educated white women on the other hand, vote Democrat at 65% vs 35% for Republicans. And keep in mind that's including older, college educated white women. The Democratic party at this point is mostly being fueled by ghetto blacks and woke white girls. What has been particularly stunning is seeing how all of the most morally depraved sexual shit being taught to little kids in the public schools nowadays is being done by white girls. It was only when I got to college that I realized how sexually perverted a lot of white women really are and that, I think is a big part of why they're so passionate about the abortion issue because nobody is more hooked on sexual freedom then white women are. Even black people seem to have a bit more of a nuanced view of its destructiveness then woke white girls do even if blacks are the most active participants in it. I've almost never seen a girl who could fully resist the liberal indoctrination at college. The only girl I've ever met who went through college and didn't seem to get indoctrinated into liberalism at all was my ex-girlfriend but I think her being Asian was a big part of that. When I have a family, I will not send my daughter(s) to college and I think any conservative parent who does is an idiot.

You mentioned that it was shocking to you that I am 24 years old with 60 year old man views lol. The truth is these views are becoming a lot more common among really young men. Check out John Doyle's channel for example, he is 24 years old and very hardline in his conservatism. His channel has about 350,000 subscribers now and he's been featured on Candace Owen's show. Nick Fuentes I think is also 24 years old and he is really radical. He's even more radical then I am. I have two friends in real life who are about as hardcore conservative as I am. One of the most quintessential John Doyle videos I'd say is this one...



And this one...



They are long, but they're really good.

[WanderingProtagonist]

They intentionally put men in situations where they are vulnerable and create these shitty hostile environments that often work against them. People will then judge and ridicule troubled men who are vulnerable which doesn't help, they only reinforce the damn problem by being unsympathetic assholes. It's like yes what those shooters did was wrong, but you have to take into consideration, they were also mistreated by society to some degree and nobody tried to do anything to help any of them. You can't help troubled individuals by being assholes and further treating them like shit. They will simply retaliate eventually out of anger and frustration. I realized how countries like the U.S. is heavily isolated a lot more now than it's ever been. But this is a pattern I've noticed with all "first world" countries. I saw a video on youtube with this guy in Japan crying because he felt so lonely but was too afraid to talk to the girls because he feared getting rejected. How did he deal with this? He started going into a cafe, and just hanging out online.

Then there was that one story about this guy in China that spent most of his life wife searching but because he didn't earn nearly enough he was overlooked by women and he ended up dating a damn sex doll which he actually hauled around in public with him. I rarely see these depressing type moments happening to women, but this stuff is real with us men. And then you got men who aren't even allies putting down struggling men so they really aren't any better than the women that do it.

All of what you've described is a result of high competitivity. When a society becomes too heavily fixated on the pursuit of material success and social status or otherwise adopts California-style narcissist culture (this is significant since California seems to want to export its own Hollywood values to the rest of the world), most people become increasingly shallow and materialistic as well as totally self-absorbed and antisocial. A culture emerges in which everybody becomes obsessed with being perceived as "winners" and then like to shit on everybody who they perceive as below them or as "losers". This is certainly the case is Anglo countries like the US and the UK which are cutthroat business cultures and reaches extreme levels at certain points of higher concentration such as Los Angeles, New York and London. The same kind of attitude is also prevalent in East Asian societies such as Japan and China which likewise have a heavy focus on careerism and the pursuit of wealth. In my experience those kinds of societies are the most alienating and are just terrible for people's mental health. When the shitting on the less fortunate becomes too intense the consequences are often tragic because people can only take so much. Eventually the more psychologically vulnerable will either kill themselves or kill others.

The reason why I like Southern Europe and Latin America so much is because those societies seem to be more resistant to that same culture of high competitivity. People in Spain and other Mediterranean countries aren't obsessed with outcompeting others and shitting on the less fortunate like many Americans are. People there mostly seek to be comfortable and live a balanced life. Those countries have never been infected with the Protestant work ethic of Northern Europe. Economic competition doesn't take center stage and obsession with wealth isn't as prevalent as it is in the Anglosphere or East Asia. Much of Latin America is the same. Plenty of people are laid back and more interested in hanging out with friends, doing simple things and having a good time than competing like crazy people and obsessing over social status. Many Anglos think that Mediterraneans and Latinos are lazy and unmotivated but they just have a more balanced conception of life. These are the only societies that I'm interested in nowadays - those that are neither hypercompetitive nor overly materialistic. I can actually feel relaxed and mentally stable in those countries. I feel much less alienated than I did in the UK or Japan. The hypercompetitive and materialistic societies of the Anglosphere and East Asia simply alienate me to the point of desperation and destroy my mental health. I'm not well suited to the Anglosphere and I never intend to go back to Japan.

The way that I see it is that there are still a few oases of normality in a crazy, messed-up dystopian world. I am just concerned that the US is going to export its toxic values and trends to the still relatively sane parts of the world via social media. I read something a while ago about how US narc culture has started to enter Brazil via Facebook. Those trends are promoted to the younger generation and then they start to imitate the media that they consume. Maybe this is what is meant by "Californication". I don't want other cultures to become Americanized or Californicated - i.e., fcuked up by Cali values and trends. I want as many of them as possible to retain their own unique identities as much as possible. I want Spain to remain Spain, Italy to remain Italy, and Latin America to forge its own identity without letting in the garbage values and trends of the US.

The hypercompetitive nature of the Anglo world is a big part of why I don't like it. And I would also say that while I love everything else about Japan, that is the part of Japanese culture I would dislike the most. To me, a job is a job. Its not there to provide you with "your meaning in life" or something pretentious like that. Your job is there to pay the bills and beyond that money to pursue what you really want in life. To me, working is part of holding up my end of a social contract. When someone makes work their entire life though, they are throwing it away. Such a person does not need to be enslaved because they've already enslaved themselves. A corporation is not entitled to controlling my entire life and it dare not tell me to act like my labor is more important then my family life. My labor is given to you for the sake of my family. I do not provide it out of generosity and do not ask me to pretend that I do.

That's why I support true traditionalism so much and shit on center-right, mainstream conservatism a lot. Mainstream conservatism has a lot of the same values on the surface but at the end of the day, GDP growth and money drive them more then anything. Its why they don't push back on women having full time careers when they should be devoting the majority of, if not their entire energy, to home life. Because at the end of the day, corporate profits matter more to them then family values. Thankfully Tucker Carlson is really pushing back on that in the most acceptable way that he can. Mentioning how corporations giving money to women to have abortions is incredibly offensive to the fundamental principle of womanhood which is that they are society's nurturers and emotional stabilizers. When corporations pay women to get abortions, they're telling those women that working for them and making them money is more important then them getting married and having kids. That's absolutely outrageous and its a sick sign of where our society is that corporations can do that and not get widespread condemnation for it.

Have to admit, I agree with what you just wrote here. Because it's certainly is true, especially the part about the child killings which is what I call it instead of abortions. The only people who seem to push for it though is white women and Jewish women. I don't see a gang of Asian or Latino women showing up at those abortion rallies advocating for abortions. It's always white women outnumbering everyone at those rallies.You will have black women among them, but it's still always white females that outnumber every other woman at those gatherings and they are mostly the ones who attack churches and stuff using violence. Just like that white BLM chick that set fire to a bunch of police vehicles before her dumbass got arrested. White people in the U.S. are so easily brainwashed they believe killing their own kids is doing negros a favor since they probably believe having a white child is "racist." It's the same thing with the whole refugee welcome shit. It's always white women with those signs, it's as if they honestly hate their race and will do anything to make sure their own kind don't survive whether it through child killings or flooding their own nations full of black/brown people. Then they convince some of their cucked out failed men to become part of it.

That's why a lot of white men these days dislike their own women so much and are looking to Latina and Asian women as an alternative. Occasionally I feel like I'm not being fair to white women because I have met some strongly conservative white girls who were sweet and weren't on board with all this bullshit. But the truth is they are a minority. And among college educated women in particular. Girls who came from some of the most strongly traditionalist families I've heard of were still manipulated by the college environment. There are plenty of white guys like myself who go to college and see what an utterly toxic culture it is and that, if anything, makes us extremely conservative in response. There was actually an article written about it that I read and very much related to...

https://newrepublic.com/article/164408/ ... nservatism

College educated white men are actually evenly split on voting Republican and voting Democrat. College educated white women on the other hand, vote Democrat at 65% vs 35% for Republicans. And keep in mind that's including older, college educated white women. The Democratic party at this point is mostly being fueled by ghetto blacks and woke white girls. What has been particularly stunning is seeing how all of the most morally depraved sexual shit being taught to little kids in the public schools nowadays is being done by white girls. It was only when I got to college that I realized how sexually perverted a lot of white women really are and that, I think is a big part of why they're so passionate about the abortion issue because nobody is more hooked on sexual freedom then white women are. Even black people seem to have a bit more of a nuanced view of its destructiveness then woke white girls do even if blacks are the most active participants in it. I've almost never seen a girl who could fully resist the liberal indoctrination at college. The only girl I've ever met who went through college and didn't seem to get indoctrinated into liberalism at all was my ex-girlfriend but I think her being Asian was a big part of that. When I have a family, I will not send my daughter(s) to college and I think any conservative parent who does is an idiot.

You mentioned that it was shocking to you that I am 24 years old with 60 year old man views lol. The truth is these views are becoming a lot more common among really young men. Check out John Doyle's channel for example, he is 24 years old and very hardline in his conservatism. His channel has about 350,000 subscribers now and he's been featured on Candace Owen's show. Nick Fuentes I think is also 24 years old and he is really radical. He's even more radical then I am. I have two friends in real life who are about as hardcore conservative as I am. One of the most quintessential John Doyle videos I'd say is this one...



And this one...



They are long, but they're really good.

I guess I'm just use to a lot of men your age being these hyper cucked out male feminist types that think they'll get laid faster if they betray the brotherhood and by brotherhood I mean their fellow man by always defending women and supporting their destructive ways XD. I meant no offense though, I understand that you tend to have these very strong views about things. Hell I have principals and all that as well, just not hyper strict like yours though hahahahaha. I'll never understand why blacks keep going to democrats... I don't vote for either side but trusting Democrats? Goddamn. Newsom is enough to make me know not to ever vote for one of them. I could never do full blown conservatism, but living under leftism is hard as hell when you can be punished for anything you say in the environments they control. Not to mention they keep coming up with more and more ways to make living conditions impossible. Life was so much better than this in the 90s and early 2000s. I don't know what the hell has happened. It's like everything did a full 180.

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I’d say the stage you are in at the moment was the stage I was in about 3 years ago or so. Eventually you realize if you truly want anything to change you have to throw yourself into it head first. This culture war is going to be won by the side that cares more, not necessarily by the side that has the most supporters. It will be won by the people who are willing to call their politicians and angrily demand they do something and by people who demand politicians write laws that undermine their opposition.

If we don’t fight for what we want and take risks we’ll never get it. That’s why I try not to be secretive about my views even at work. The moment a person keeps their views secret is the moment your enemy wins.