Kalinago wrote: ↑January 7th, 2023, 10:28 pm
I mean for women?I think even African women are more intelligent on average than them and those women are cheap look at the ugly fat old men they get with for some Dolla.
Also the hot ones are a minority unlike Europe even my country which I hate Holland most girls are goodlooking not just a small minority and the standard is higher too.
Europe has intelligent cultured and beauty pageant type girls more commonly?
I think it's because the type of guy attracted to sea is a monger or social outcast and likes to slum it up?
Do higher quality american men go to Europe and latin america?
I spent many years in Indonesia, and my experience would indicate that the vast majority of girls are not loose ho's who would sleep with a guy for some dollar. Most are marriage-oriented. Marriage is the purpose for dating for most of them.
There are prostitutes all around the world, and I suppose there are bar girls and cheap girls who sleep around. I wonder if the expats who go to certain cities and whore it up with cheap women are mostly sleeping with the same small pool of girls, swapping their VD infections.
I've never been to the Netherlands. I married a stunner from Indonesia. My wife had a few cousins who were really nice looking, stunners or close to it, too, maybe 10 or so of them. But there can be hundreds of her relatives at a wedding. There are a lot of people-groups in Indonesia. I generally find Malay type people's generally less attractive on average. If a room full of young women in South Korea had lots of 7's, I'd say a room full of Indonesian women might have a lot of 5.5's or 6's to my taste. Some western men like the Malayu look. My wife is a rare gem for looks anywhere. In her late 40's, men still find her attractive and don't know how old she is, so she has to mention her husband all the time and stuff like that to ward them off.
Personally, it didn't seem to me that the Chinese women there are as good-looking as Chinese women in China. I remember seeing a girl whose looks nearly took my breath away at a buffet when I was young who looked Chinese. That was rare, though. A close friend of mine was really pretty, but she looked Chinese but was mixed with European and I think another ethnicity.
The impression I got in Indonesia is that virginity at marriage is more common, for both men and women but more so for women. Sex before marriage is stigmatized. Women tend to be family oriented. They are expected to know how to cook, but this is probably less the case in the big cities with women. Still, we had an Indonesian mother and her daughters visit and they filled the kitchen up making perkedel and other food, helping my wife out.
They have desires, moods, etc. They aren't Stepford wife robots. My wife's people-group is anti-divorce, culturally. There have been a number of divorces in the family, but a handful out of hundreds, not like the US. Even with the expat married Indonesian community in one US city, out of several dozens, maybe a couple of divorces, which seemed much lower than the local environment. Sundanese in Indonesia were more likely to divorce, I heard, but the national divorce rate is much lower than the US or Russia.
The Dutch ruled Indonesia for so long. Marrying a foreigner can be seen as a positive, high class thing to do, especially white. That's probably more the case for poorer classes, but richer Indonesians don't seem to see it as a problem. Indonesia is full of people-groups that already intermarry with each other, and ethnicity is decided by social rules. Minang lineage follows the mother. Javanese follows the father. Batak will adopt people in, male or female. Chinese need to be full Chinese to be recognized as Chinese. Some Indonesian Chinese think marrying white is just about as good as marrying another Chinese.
I went there when I was about 25 and got married after a couple of years there. I don't know if I just had no ability to pick up on cues from women, or if women there just give more signals if they are interested, or if Indonesian women just found me more attractive, or I just had hit the peak of being interesting-- marrying age for them-- when I went there. But I sure noticed women being interested in me. Subtle things they would say usually, or flirtatious joking comments, or sending my mom presents when I went home (which someone told me was a way to hopefully soften up a future mother-in-law), or aggressive pursuit of me. Being foreign might have given me an extra point on a 1-10 scale since it made me stand out. There is also the stereotype that foreigners are rich. The US gets Asian college kids who are good at math, and a lot of expats tend to be successful in their careers to be stationed there.
I would discourage sexpats from going to Indonesia. But decent men looking for wives might consider it. There is a large Christian population there, too. They aren't all Muslim.
