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This universe is random chaos
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Such is the mythological narrative the Satanists would have us believe. Common experience says otherwise.
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Re: This universe is random chaos
What is "chance" ? it's just a word that says we don't have sufficient knowledge of what happened. We can observe the universe has structure and regularity. The mystics say there is such a thing as "absolute truth".
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Life having no objective purpose or meaning makes us free to create our own. To rebel against the chaos, and find meaning and joy in our experiences and our relationships with one another. To find joy despite pointless suffering and chaos is an act of glorious rebellion against the uncaring void.
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An existentialist. Makes me nostalgic for my youth and less Manichean times when secularism didn't come wearing a pair of devil horns.HouseMD wrote: ↑February 21st, 2023, 3:29 amLife having no objective purpose or meaning makes us free to create our own. To rebel against the chaos, and find meaning and joy in our experiences and our relationships with one another. To find joy despite pointless suffering and chaos is an act of glorious rebellion against the uncaring void.
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I think there is a place for existentialist concepts even when it comes to religion, as no religion tells you the "why" of life. Having a bit of existentialism to fill in the gaps can keep one's faith from crumbling when chaos or misfortune strike, as we don't need to know the why to find our meaning in life.gsjackson wrote: ↑February 21st, 2023, 4:03 amAn existentialist. Makes me nostalgic for my youth and less Manichean times when secularism didn't come wearing a pair of devil horns.HouseMD wrote: ↑February 21st, 2023, 3:29 amLife having no objective purpose or meaning makes us free to create our own. To rebel against the chaos, and find meaning and joy in our experiences and our relationships with one another. To find joy despite pointless suffering and chaos is an act of glorious rebellion against the uncaring void.
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Agreed. I like to think of the concept more along the lines of Emersonian individualism in an interconnected, meaningful world, rather than against a backdrop of chaos and meaninglessness, but either way we create the meaning.HouseMD wrote: ↑February 21st, 2023, 4:20 amI think there is a place for existentialist concepts even when it comes to religion, as no religion tells you the "why" of life. Having a bit of existentialism to fill in the gaps can keep one's faith from crumbling when chaos or misfortune strike, as we don't need to know the why to find our meaning in life.gsjackson wrote: ↑February 21st, 2023, 4:03 amAn existentialist. Makes me nostalgic for my youth and less Manichean times when secularism didn't come wearing a pair of devil horns.HouseMD wrote: ↑February 21st, 2023, 3:29 amLife having no objective purpose or meaning makes us free to create our own. To rebel against the chaos, and find meaning and joy in our experiences and our relationships with one another. To find joy despite pointless suffering and chaos is an act of glorious rebellion against the uncaring void.
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I'm fairly in agreement, but tend to use the existentialist take for those like the OP that have no sense of meaning, as it is easier to convince one that they can create their own meaning and purpose than to convince one there is a meaningful world to begin with. I find that as people find their own meaning, they tend to see the meaning of the world around them that was previously invisible to themgsjackson wrote: ↑February 21st, 2023, 5:04 amAgreed. I like to think of the concept more along the lines of Emersonian individualism in an interconnected, meaningful world, rather than against a backdrop of chaos and meaninglessness, but either way we create the meaning.HouseMD wrote: ↑February 21st, 2023, 4:20 amI think there is a place for existentialist concepts even when it comes to religion, as no religion tells you the "why" of life. Having a bit of existentialism to fill in the gaps can keep one's faith from crumbling when chaos or misfortune strike, as we don't need to know the why to find our meaning in life.gsjackson wrote: ↑February 21st, 2023, 4:03 amAn existentialist. Makes me nostalgic for my youth and less Manichean times when secularism didn't come wearing a pair of devil horns.HouseMD wrote: ↑February 21st, 2023, 3:29 amLife having no objective purpose or meaning makes us free to create our own. To rebel against the chaos, and find meaning and joy in our experiences and our relationships with one another. To find joy despite pointless suffering and chaos is an act of glorious rebellion against the uncaring void.
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Carl Gustav Jung produced an immense body of work but if we do need to absorb a single notion from his theories, it would be exactly what you said above: we human beings create meaning out of chaos. We extract information from noise and knowledge from information. We fish meaningful coincidences from a sea of seemingly random events. One might believe in destiny, the stars, or the container of universal symbols which Jung called "collective unconscious".
Truth remains that we create our web of thoughts, ideas, opinions, convictions, phobias...and we live our lives paying the consequences of those thoughts, ideas, opinions, convictions, and phobias.
The universe may be all randomness or it might be seeded with information and even knowledge: we have started to suspect that that's the case, btu we cannot be scientifically sure. It is up to us sentient beings to give order to chaos. If we don't, we will be doomed to succumb to it.
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