NYC Walking Tours PROVES Winston Wrong

[kangarunner]

@Winston LOOK! Winston. Can't you see in these NYC walking tours that people are walking around and are very open to each other? People are not closed off. They all look happy and cheerful. Everyone in New York City on these walking tours on Youtube look very social. I bet if you were to go there and walk around, you would love NYC and how the people are there.

[GerardButler]

Well yea, Wlison is mentally ill. Doesn't know what he is talking about

[dancilley]

@Winston LOOK! Winston. Can't you see in these NYC walking tours that people are walking around and are very open to each other? People are not closed off. They all look happy and cheerful. Everyone in New York City on these walking tours on Youtube look very social. I bet if you were to go there and walk around, you would love NYC and how the people are there.

I can't watch this video because it is blocked by my network administrator (the Los Angeles Public Library); I am using a laptop/hotspot that I borrowed from the library, and many YouTube videos are blocked.

Anyway, what is a "walking tour"? Is it a group of people who are walking on the street/sidewalk, and a tour guide/leader is showing them around and introducing them to different tourist attractions in the area?

[kangarunner]

Anyway, what is a "walking tour"? Is it a group of people who are walking on the street/sidewalk, and a tour guide/leader is showing them around and introducing them to different tourist attractions in the area?

Walking tours are just a person walking around a city and filming with their phone or camera.

[dancilley]

Anyway, what is a "walking tour"? Is it a group of people who are walking on the street/sidewalk, and a tour guide/leader is showing them around and introducing them to different tourist attractions in the area?

Walking tours are just a person walking around a city and filming with their phone or camera.

Oh, okay. Well anyway, for some reason, I can now watch the video; it is not blocked at this time. Are there any specific times in the video I should watch when people appear friendly and open to conversation?

[tiagomoncada]

@Winston LOOK! Winston. Can't you see in these NYC walking tours that people are walking around and are very open to each other? People are not closed off. They all look happy and cheerful. Everyone in New York City on these walking tours on Youtube look very social. I bet if you were to go there and walk around, you would love NYC and how the people are there.

these people are social with a very limited category of people. new yorkers are way more defensive than the average american, and most nyers will meet people through work, school, neigbhors, or social circles, and often times the social circles are very socioeconomically based. if youre a random person walking up to them, they might have a conversation with you (however unlikely), but definitely will not want to call you. as a matter of fact, objectively speaking, i asked 5 people for directions in ny, and 4 of them ignored me, didnt even stop, just kept walking. ive also had people look up directions for me on their phone (she was australian), but you're not going to find many of them. another thing i noticed about nyers is that theyre extremely selective about who they befriend. i met a bunch of people, and for the most part, out of towners will befriend out of towners. so for example, a guy from minnesota will befriend a guy from nevada, but NOT a native new yorker. local nyers tend to befriend other locals. so there is a huge divide between the locals and the transients. rarely do you see the two mix. in fact, i know an above average looking woman. she's an art student in ny, and it seems like she only hangs around people from her home town (georgia). she might have made new friends since arriving, but it seems like she places priority with that one guy from her home town. and ive seen it first hand, i was talking to some people from nyu, and they asked me if i went there. as soon as i said no, they ended the conversation. people care alot about your status in ny. they want to know where you go to school, or where you work. if you tell people your jobless, then they will just distance themselves from you. or if youre in manhattan, and you tell them youre from staten island, and working for amazon, they also distance themselves, because that's just seen as a low status person. how can it not be that way? the rents like what? 5k for the 1br? you think these types of people are going to befriend random men off the street? the more money people make, the more exclusive theyre going to be. thats just the way it is. this is why when nyers go to california, they will usually think californians are friendly, when in fact theyre not. theyre friendlier than ny, but compared with most parts of america, californians are not really that friendly. another thing with ny is, alot of the people you see hanging out in ny are actually from jersey. many of them will go to ny for the weekend as an entire group of friends from nj. either way, i dont think ny will work to the advantage of guys like winston, and when you look at these large groups of friends in ny, how many of them are middle aged? and how many of them are mixed race groups? one key thing youll notice about ny is that although it has a lot of diversity, its very segregated. that is white people will hang out with white people, and latinos with latinos. rarely do you see mixed race groups of friends. if i had to compare it to something it'd be apartheid. ny is actually more segregated than misisipi, or alabama. and anyone whos been to college will also know that college students are also much more open to other college students than they are with the general public. and even within the college, they can be very picky, (ie by dorms, by frats, by sports teams). so what you're seeing in ny, may be a group of college students from the same dorm hanging out on a lawn having a picnic. on the surface, you see a bunch of young people socializing, but what you dont know is that they all live in the same dorm, and were brought together by that. this doesnt mean that if winston or i walked up to them they would welcome us with open arms. firstly, we don't go to their college, and even if we did, we don't live in their dorms, so they are much less likely to welcome either of us. the age gap will also greatly reduce winston's chances of entering that social circle. as i mentioned in another post, society is very skeptical of old men, and unlikely to welcome them into their social circles. i met a wealthy, intelligent, articulate, muscular, good looking jewish guy from ct who was a senior at columbia, and even he said that you pretty much had to make friends with those people you knew from college. despite the fact that he had all those things in his favor, he was still limited to that specific group when it came to socializing. a lot of these friend groups that you see in ny are also people who went to high school with one another. so if theyre still hanging around people they went to hs with, then you know theyre not really that social right? thats why they keep going back to them, people theyre familiar with. i know nyers who are in their mid 20s who are still hanging around with guys they knew from hs, and thats who their core friend group is, and really hasnt changed much in 10yrs. they may meet new people through the journey, but their relationship's not going to be the same as that core friend group, and these guys are ghetto guys from the boros. so you can only imagine how much more conservative the ones in manhatan will be. the only types of nyers who i noticed to reach out to strangers were just losers, conspiracy theorists, religious fanatics, mentally ill, socially awkward, pua, socially unaware people who were just lonley and desprate. i mean there were definitely reasons they were so open to making new friends, it's because they'd been shut out by most people they knew anyway, so they had to keep meeting new people. theyd always be open to meeting new people, but people who were "normal", and had something going for them, not so much. in ny, you gotta look at another thing. nationality. alot of people from the same country will be more social with one another because theyre from the same race. so colombians will gravitate towards other colombians for no other reason than theyre colombian, and you'll see that alot in those walking tour videos. but if a hindu walked up to a colombian and starting talking, the colombian probably wouldnt be having it, besides, the hindu wouldnt even speak spanish, so that would rule him out from the begining. same thing if i were to walk up to a hindu group of freinds. they'd simply be asking me what the hell am i doing there. so while you may see a group of hindus having a time of their life, and socializing in time square, this doesnt mean that theyre open to you, not in the least bit. alot of the multigenerational groups you see on ny streets is basically what you would see in disney world. it's basically a family who are visiting ny. they came to ny as a group, and leave as a group. this doesnt mean they are open to socializing with random men, it just means that they are a family, and are related by blood, and thats why you see them socializing with one another. often times when it comes to tourism, you tend to see large groups who already knew each other from back home. needless to say, the vast majority of these types are not in ny to make friends
i used to know this asian-italian guy from brooklyn. he worked at a pizzaria, and was going to community college. all of his friends were dark skin italian, latino, middle eastern or black, from the hood. although he was from brooklyn, he had this obsesion with rich white women from the american heartland. so he would constantly go into manhatan, where he worked, and try to pick up these types of women. he was good at talking, and wasnt shy. he would get phone numbers here and there from these rich white women, but he said that none of them ever called him back. and theres that divide i was talking about between the new yorkers, and out of towners. as hard as he tried, as much as he tried, he was unable to successfully infiltrate into these rich white peoples circles, partly because he was of a difrent race, he was a local, and also he wasnt from a wealthy background. not only was he not accepted by the rich white women, the rich white men also ignored him. i mention the rich white men, because sometimes you can use the rich white men to get in with the rich white women, but in his case, it wasn't working out either way.

[kangarunner]

these people are social with a very limited category of people. new yorkers are way more defensive than the average american, and most nyers will meet people through work, school, neigbhors, or social circles, and often times the social circles are very socioeconomically based. if youre a random person walking up to them, they might have a conversation with you (however unlikely), but definitely will not want to call you. as a matter of fact, objectively speaking, i asked 5 people for directions in ny, and 4 of them ignored me, didnt even stop, just kept walking. ive also had people look up directions for me on their phone, but you're not going to find many of them. another thing i noticed about nyers is that theyre extremely selective about who they befriend. i met a bunch of people, and for the most part, out of towners will befriend out of towners. so for example, a guy from minnesota will befriend a guy from nevada, but NOT a native new yorker. local nyers tend to befriend other locals. so there is a huge divide between the locals and the transients. rarely do you see the two mix. in fact, i know an above average looking woman. she's an art student in ny, and it seems like she only hangs around people from her home town (georgia). she might have made new friends since arriving, but it seems like she places priority with that one guy from her home town. and ive seen it first hand, i was talking to some people from nyu, and they asked me if i went there. as soon as i said no, they ended the conversation. people care alot about your status in ny. they want to know where you go to school, or where you work. if you tell people your jobless, then they will just distance themselves from you. or if youre in manhattan, and you tell them youre from staten island, and working for amazon, they also distance themselves, because that's just seen as a low status person. how can it not be that way? the rents like what? 5k for the 1br? you think these types of people are going to befriend random men off the street? the more money people make, the more exclusive theyre going to be. thats just the way it is. this is why when nyers go to california, they will usually think californians are friendly, when in fact theyre not. theyre friendlier than ny, but compared with most parts of america, californians are not really that friendly. another thing with ny is, alot of the people you see hanging out in ny are actually from jersey. many of them will go to ny for the weekend as an entire group of friends from nj. either way, i dont think ny will work to the advantage of guys like winston, and when you look at these large groups of friends in ny, how many of them are middle aged? and how many of them are mixed race groups? one key thing youll notice about ny is that although it has a lot of diversity, its very segregated. that is white people will hang out with white people, and latinos with latinos. rarely do you see mixed race groups of friends. if i had to compare it to something it'd be apartheid. ny is actually more segregated than misisipi, or alabama. and anyone whos been to college will also know that college students are also much more open to other college students than they are with the general public. and even within the college, they can be very picky, (ie by dorms, by frats, by sports teams). so what you're seeing in ny, may be a group of college students from the same dorm hanging out on a lawn having a picnic. on the surface, you see a bunch of young people socializing, but what you dont know is that they all live in the same dorm, and were brought together by that. this doesnt mean that if winston or i walked up to them they would welcome us with open arms. firstly, we don't go to their college, and even if we did, we don't live in their dorms, so they are much less likely to welcome either of us. the age gap will also greatly reduce winston's chances of entering that social circle. as i mentioned in another post, society is very skeptical of old men, and unlikely to welcome them into their social circles. i met a wealthy, intelligent, articulate, muscular, good looking jewish guy from ct who was a senior at columbia, and even he said that you pretty much had to make friends with those people you knew from college. despite the fact that he had all those things in his favor, he was still limited to that specific group when it came to socializing. a lot of these friend groups that you see in ny are also people who went to high school with one another. so if theyre still hanging around people they went to hs with, then you know theyre not really that social right? thats why they keep going back to them, people theyre familiar with. i know nyers who are in their mid 20s who are still hanging around with guys they knew from hs, and thats who their core friend group is, and really hasnt changed much in 10yrs. they may meet new people through the journey, but their relationship's not going to be the same as that core friend group, and these guys are ghetto guys from the boros. so you can only imagine how much more conservative the ones in manhatan will be. the only types of nyers who i noticed to reach out to strangers were just losers, conspiracy theorists, religious fanatics, mentally ill, socially awkward, pua, socially unaware people who were just lonley and desprate. i mean there were definitely reasons they were so open to making new friends, it's because they'd been shut out by most people they knew anyway, so they had to keep meeting new people. theyd always be open to meeting new people, but people who were "normal", and had something going for them, not so much. in ny, you gotta look at another thing. nationality. alot of people from the same country will be more social with one another because theyre from the same race. so colombians will gravitate towards other colombians for no other reason than theyre colombian, and you'll see that alot in those walking tour videos. but if a hindu walked up to a colombian and starting talking, the colombian probably wouldnt be having it, besides, the hindu wouldnt even speak spanish, so that would rule him out from the begining. same thing if i were to walk up to a hindu group of freinds. they'd simply be asking me what the hell am i doing there. so while you may see a group of hindus having a time of their life, and socializing in time square, this doesnt mean that theyre open to you, not in the least bit. alot of the multigenerational groups you see on ny streets is basically what you would see in disney world. it's basically a family who are visiting ny. they came to ny as a group, and leave as a group. this doesnt mean they are open to socializing with random men, it just means that they are a family, and are related by blood, and thats why you see them socializing with one another. often times when it comes to tourism, you tend to see large groups who already knew each other from back home. needless to say, the vast majority of these types are not in ny to make friends
i used to know this asian-italian guy from brooklyn. he worked at a pizzaria, and was going to community college. all of his friends were dark skin italian, latino, middle eastern or black, from the hood. although he was from brooklyn, he had this obsesion with rich white women from the american heartland. so he would constantly go into manhatan, where he worked, and try to pick up these types of women. he was good at talking, and wasnt shy. he would get phone numbers here and there from these rich white women, but he said that none of them ever called him back. and theres that divide i was talking about between the new yorkers, and out of towners. as hard as he tried, as much as he tried, he was unable to successfully infiltrate into these rich white peoples circles, partly because he was of a difrent race, he was a local, and also he wasnt from a wealthy background. not only was he not accepted by the rich white women, the rich white men also ignored him. i mention the rich white men, because sometimes you can use the rich white men to get in with the rich white women, but in his case, it wasn't working out either way.

Are you a native NYer or transplant? This was very interesting to read. Thank you. Yes I've heard NYC is all about hustle and money. Now more than ever, people are more closed off and selective on who they associate with.

They look the average Joe like me, and think I can't gain anything from him and just ignore me. That's basically my life in America. Being ignored. The life of the ignored.

[tiagomoncada]

youre welcome. im native. the thing with ny is that theres alot of crime, and mentally ill there, so people are going to be cautious. alot of people are also from out of town, so whenever you have people from out of town, theyre not in their own elements, so theyre going to be more cautious. i once met a woman from va, and i asked her if she would be as defensive back home as she would be in ny, and she said no, because she knows her way around va, wheraes shes not native to ny, therefore, she will act difrently. alot of the people who permanently live in ny are usually from another country like colombia for example, and most of us come here to make money, not make friends, so that makes ny even less friendly. but as i said, you have to really go through the right chanels in order to feel included. if u just a random mofo walking up to people, you not going to be received well in most big cities. i actually talked to a lot of latinos in ny, and one of the things that i heard the most is that ny or even america is less warm, and theyre not talking about the weather. many of them were new arrivals so they were still not used to the unfriendliness. with the crime, and all, people are then drawn to people they feel safe around, that often means people from their home town, or home country, which is why you see that alot of nyers are grouped based on nationality. even with the neighborhoods, you can see that. you have italian neighbordhoods, irish neighbor. but its not unique to america. if you go to japan, im sure you have white guys that only hang out with other white guys.

whether u trying to date or make friends, big cities are not the way to go. small towns are the way to go for that. i also like consevative housewife type women, not some alt chic with tatoos, and baggy jeans trying to look like some skater.