happierabroad=taking advantage of desperate women

[88jose88]

i know i dont want to have power over someone,but seeing that all the main HA destinations are extremely poor with desperate women,you're just taking advantage of these women and if you get suckered and burned don't cry about it if they're just pretending to have liked you .

just accept it for what it is.no need to idealie shit.

is it better than being incel?Sure..but atleast be honest about what you're doing.

[Lucas88]

i know i dont want to have power over someone,but seeing that all the main HA destinations are extremely poor with desperate women,you're just taking advantage of these women and if you get suckered and burned don't cry about it if they're just pretending to have liked you .

just accept it for what it is.no need to idealie shit.

is it better than being incel?Sure..but atleast be honest about what you're doing.

HappierAbroad doesn't have to be about taking advantage of desperate women. Some of us have moved to better first-world countries (like myself who moved to Spain) and/or have dated or married foreign women who don't come from abject poverty.

But some HA'ers do indeed take advantage of desperation. I say this in the most objective way and without moral judgments—the desperate women are also often scammers. I remember that @publicduende once described the Philippines as one big scene of "poverty porn". Some HA'ers consciously exploit that while often being exploited themselves.

But that is just the lowest form of HA. HA in its higher manifestations can include full integration into a more favorable country (not just cheap sexpatism) and meeting a local woman the normal way and without taking advantage of any poverty or desperation. This is possible if you're a man of quality and have your life in order. In fact, this is probably the best way to go about things.

The lower poverty porn way has serious drawbacks. So does third-world living in general. A man who goes down that avenue might soon find that many of the women he meets are just scammers and opportunistic gold-diggers who don't give a shit about the men they date. This is not a solid foundation for a relationship. Get burned one time too many and a man might take off the rose-tinted glasses and go running back to first-world women.

It's true that there are some very good women from Latin America and Southeast Asia but you really do have to separate the wheat from the chaff.

[88jose88]

i know i dont want to have power over someone,but seeing that all the main HA destinations are extremely poor with desperate women,you're just taking advantage of these women and if you get suckered and burned don't cry about it if they're just pretending to have liked you .

just accept it for what it is.no need to idealie shit.

is it better than being incel?Sure..but atleast be honest about what you're doing.

Who's taking advantage of desperate women? Happier abroad isn't about taking advantage of anyone. It's about different cultures having different attitudes towards men.

If a western woman doesn't like the 80% of unattractive men.what makes you think eastern women do?You think they do?They just need men way more.a western sexpat with a favorable exchange rate is a beacon of hope for these women,due to destitution.

I'm not saying don't do it because it's immoral,it beats being incel,I'm no moralfag,but me and my sister discussed this long ago and she was right.

[88jose88]

pixel,why don't western men go to japan or south korea for women?japan isn't feminist but the women are as hard if not harder than western women,it's because they don't need men and can go for what they only and really like(Chad or Tyrone,chang,chaddam,chadpreet,chadriguez whatever etc)

[88jose88]

i know i dont want to have power over someone,but seeing that all the main HA destinations are extremely poor with desperate women,you're just taking advantage of these women and if you get suckered and burned don't cry about it if they're just pretending to have liked you .

just accept it for what it is.no need to idealie shit.

is it better than being incel?Sure..but atleast be honest about what you're doing.

HappierAbroad doesn't have to be about taking advantage of desperate women. Some of us have moved to better first-world countries (like myself who moved to Spain) and/or have dated or married foreign women who don't come from abject poverty.

But some HA'ers do indeed take advantage of desperation. I say this in the most objective way and without moral judgments—the desperate women are also often scammers. I remember that @publicduende once described the Philippines as one big scene of "poverty porn". Some HA'ers consciously exploit that while often being exploited themselves.

But that is just the lowest form of HA. HA in its higher manifestations can include full integration into a more favorable country (not just cheap sexpatism) and meeting a local woman the normal way and without taking advantage of any poverty or desperation. This is possible if you're a man of quality and have your life in order. In fact, this is probably the best way to go about things.

The lower poverty porn way has serious drawbacks. So does third-world living in general. A man who goes down that avenue might soon find that many of the women he meets are just scammers and opportunistic gold-diggers who don't give a shit about the men they date. This is not a solid foundation for a relationship. Get burned one time too many and a man might take off the rose-tinted glasses and go running back to first-world women.

It's true that there are some very good women from Latin America and Southeast Asia but you really do have to separate the wheat from the chaff.

Hey brother,I didn't mean to categorize all HA'ers into one box,I am only talking the general trend of sexpatism,passport broing and HA.

it beats being incel as a non-chad in the west,but you should see it for what it is and never take her back to your country if you're doing that.

a western passport is like the fountain of youth in many latin american,southeastasian,subcontinental and african countries.imagine coming from destitution and thinking that the media image of america is true(streets paved with gold basically).

that doesn't mean given the chance those women wouldn't be as picky and choosy as western women.

again it beats being incel.I wish people just didn't have rose tinted glasses on about either passport bros(Poor 'good 'men rejected by evil western women)or foreign women(Angels from heaven that just love to be housewives and give men a chance).

[88jose88]

I saw this video years ago and it rings true today.@Lucas88

there is no difference between 'getting your shit together'(AKA make six figures)nd sexpatting in foreign countries to attract women.women want resources over anything and you might aswell go for the cheaper option you can have more control over if you want a relationship(I don't).

[Lucas88]

Hey brother,I didn't mean to categorize all HA'ers into one box,I am only talking the general trend of sexpatism,passport broing and HA.

it beats being incel as a non-chad in the west,but you should see it for what it is and never take her back to your country if you're doing that.

a western passport is like the fountain of youth in many latin american,southeastasian,subcontinental and african countries.imagine coming from destitution and thinking that the media image of america is true(streets paved with gold basically).

that doesn't mean given the chance those women wouldn't be as picky and choosy as western women.

again it beats being incel.I wish people just didn't have rose tinted glasses on about either passport bros(Poor 'good 'men rejected by evil western women)or foreign women(Angels from heaven that just love to be housewives and give men a chance).

I understand. I'm not under any illusion about third-world women. I know exactly what the game is with the passport bro shit.

Quite frankly, I don't care about wifing up some dirt-poor desperate Latina or Filipina who just wants a financially stable Western guy to support her. I find the whole mutual exploitation game between men and women tedious. If I go back to a third-world country, I'll probably stick to escorts, tinder for FWBs and the occasional hook-up should such an opportunity present itself. As a high-test male, I have no interest in the lovey-dovey emotional bullshit of relationships. Sex is all I care about.

[MrMan]

i know i dont want to have power over someone,but seeing that all the main HA destinations are extremely poor with desperate women,you're just taking advantage of these women and if you get suckered and burned don't cry about it if they're just pretending to have liked you .

just accept it for what it is.no need to idealie shit.

is it better than being incel?Sure..but atleast be honest about what you're doing.

I remember when my wife and I went to the US embassy to get her a visit visa to the US while we were engaged. I said we were engaged and wanted to take her home to the US to meet my family. I produced evidence that I had a job in Indonesia. The agent probably saw us sitting there, obviously a couple. I was young and presumably good-looking (so I have been told) and my wife was beautiful. We were both young, a few years apart. It made sense. Why wouldn't we be a real couple.

I don't know what they would have done if me now was dating her then. They might have given the visa, but it might look less 'real' to a judgey individual.

I think there is a legitimate place for a woman wanting a man who is a good provider. If what she is looking for is a housewife role and the man wants a house wife, that makes sense. Some women are practical about it and they are willing to marry an older, calmer, more stable man whose financially stable. There are probably more women like that in traditional cultures nowadays.

American culture emphasizes feelings, butterflies, 'falling in love.' I think the Philippines, for example, has that too, but they also probably have more people emphasizing the practical aspects. The fact that parental permission is so important, and parents emphasize that, is a big factor.

What I don't get is the accusation that one is just taking advantage of these women. Now, a man who goes around sexpatting may be taking advantage of these women, but if he's looking for a wife and plans on treating her well the rest of his life, I don't see how that's wrong, even if he's old, ugly, has a weird personality, etc. If the woman is looking for a provider, but plans to stay faithful and love him for life, how is that taking advantage?

Now, if she were planning on getting a greencard and leaving him for a young, good-looking man, that would be taking advantage.

[88jose88]

i know i dont want to have power over someone,but seeing that all the main HA destinations are extremely poor with desperate women,you're just taking advantage of these women and if you get suckered and burned don't cry about it if they're just pretending to have liked you .

just accept it for what it is.no need to idealie shit.

is it better than being incel?Sure..but atleast be honest about what you're doing.

I remember when my wife and I went to the US embassy to get her a visit visa to the US while we were engaged. I said we were engaged and wanted to take her home to the US to meet my family. I produced evidence that I had a job in Indonesia. The agent probably saw us sitting there, obviously a couple. I was young and presumably good-looking (so I have been told) and my wife was beautiful. We were both young, a few years apart. It made sense. Why wouldn't we be a real couple.

I don't know what they would have done if me now was dating her then. They might have given the visa, but it might look less 'real' to a judgey individual.

I think there is a legitimate place for a woman wanting a man who is a good provider. If what she is looking for is a housewife role and the man wants a house wife, that makes sense. Some women are practical about it and they are willing to marry an older, calmer, more stable man whose financially stable. There are probably more women like that in traditional cultures nowadays.

American culture emphasizes feelings, butterflies, 'falling in love.' I think the Philippines, for example, has that too, but they also probably have more people emphasizing the practical aspects. The fact that parental permission is so important, and parents emphasize that, is a big factor.

What I don't get is the accusation that one is just taking advantage of these women. Now, a man who goes around sexpatting may be taking advantage of these women, but if he's looking for a wife and plans on treating her well the rest of his life, I don't see how that's wrong, even if he's old, ugly, has a weird personality, etc. If the woman is looking for a provider, but plans to stay faithful and love him for life, how is that taking advantage?

Now, if she were planning on getting a greencard and leaving him for a young, good-looking man, that would be taking advantage.

Looks are not enough to keep a woman interested beyond maybe one night,she is with you for a better life.if you were goodlooking austronesian,no filipina and indonesian would be sp eager for you,if you were destitute and couldn't provide.

you get babies and blowjobs,she gets food and security,that's both sides taking advantage you dunce,but you cannot see that because you're invested in your relationshit as some noble holy union based on 'love'(Which can only exist truly among equals).

yeah,the cognitive dissonance is strong with this one.

[88jose88]

Hey brother,I didn't mean to categorize all HA'ers into one box,I am only talking the general trend of sexpatism,passport broing and HA.

it beats being incel as a non-chad in the west,but you should see it for what it is and never take her back to your country if you're doing that.

a western passport is like the fountain of youth in many latin american,southeastasian,subcontinental and african countries.imagine coming from destitution and thinking that the media image of america is true(streets paved with gold basically).

that doesn't mean given the chance those women wouldn't be as picky and choosy as western women.

again it beats being incel.I wish people just didn't have rose tinted glasses on about either passport bros(Poor 'good 'men rejected by evil western women)or foreign women(Angels from heaven that just love to be housewives and give men a chance).

I understand. I'm not under any illusion about third-world women. I know exactly what the game is with the passport bro shit.
Me either bro,these passport bros are delusional and suffer from cognitive dissonance
Quite frankly, I don't care about wifing up some dirt-poor desperate Latina or Filipina who just wants a financially stable Western guy to support her. I find the whole mutual exploitation game between men and women tedious.
there is no difference really between a western woman that desires only luxury-like all of them do hence why they demand minimum high six figures-and a destitute third world woman that just wants stability,only that the latter is justified
If I go back to a third-world country, I'll probably stick to escorts, tinder for FWBs and the occasional hook-up should such an opportunity present itself. As a high-test male, I have no interest in the lovey-dovey emotional bullshit of relationships. Sex is all I care about.

love can only exist when people have all their needs met,maybe not even as spoiled westerners have a marriage crisis and they are spoiled but want more due to greed,go figure.people want bigger and better the more they have,if we were all rich and chads,they'd go only for trillionare terrachad due to being spoiled.sexual reproduction is just a archaic evolutionary mistake with no benefits in today's mechanized world.it suited our survival in evolutionary terms but we are maladapted to get the chemical rush of bonding,happy family and love being so far from our natural environment as simple hunter gatherers.

[Yohan]

i know i dont want to have power over someone,but seeing that all the main HA destinations are extremely poor with desperate women,you're just taking advantage of these women and if you get suckered and burned don't cry about it if they're just pretending to have liked you...

HappierAbroad doesn't have to be about taking advantage of desperate women. Some of us have moved to better first-world countries (like myself who moved to Spain) and/or have dated or married foreign women who don't come from abject poverty.

But some HA'ers do indeed take advantage of desperation. I say this in the most objective way and without moral judgments—the desperate women are also often scammers....

Good comment from Lucas88!

Same with me, I moved to Asia, Japan, more than 40 years ago. My wife for sure was neither poor nor desperate.

About Western men taking advantage of poor women I can only say it works both ways, there are also plenty of women, not only in poor countries but also in first world countries, who are scammers and cheat money out of men as much as they can.

[yick]

I have never thought about women the once when thinking about where to go abroad - I think of other things, food, weather, work opportunities - there's more to life than finding poor women to f**k! Obviously this isn't every mans vision of 'Happier Abroad' that is just silly and the exploitation of women living in poverty never came into it with me.

The women most people would want around this forum will come from the middle to upper classes and they have plenty of choices even if the vast majority of their countrymen don't - Lucas said it - the rich in Latin America are very rich and even the middle classes are thriving these days. I have female cousins who go to Miami on shopping trips, they don't need to marry fat Hank from Ohio to make that happen.

[Huddo]

All my friends who are dating or are married to FSU women didn’t choose a poor village girl living in poverty. All the women are highly educated, English speaking and own property and or businesses. Ones married to a Doctor, another to an accountant and the third to an astrophysicist and last to an agronomist. One is engaged to a teacher and those that are dating atm, an online friend is with an engineer and myself I’m going back this year to spend time with a woman who has 3 uni degrees, owns a luxury apartment on the coast and earns 5 times the average wage in Russia. Not all men and woman fit the typical negative stereotypes associated with foreign dating eg:- Socially inept, desperate older man dating a poor young piece of arm candy. The circles I move in are very realistic when it comes to suitable partners both physically and financially.

[Yohan]

I have never thought about women the once when thinking about where to go abroad - I think of other things, food, weather, work opportunities - there's more to life than finding poor women to f**k!

Obviously this isn't every mans vision of 'Happier Abroad' that is just silly and the exploitation of women living in poverty never came into it with me.

The women most people would want around this forum will come from the middle to upper classes and they have plenty of choices even if the vast majority of their countrymen don't - Lucas said it - the rich in Latin America are very rich and even the middle classes are thriving these days. I have female cousins who go to Miami on shopping trips, they don't need to marry fat Hank from Ohio to make that happen.

Bad cold weather, problems with work, issues about housing were some of the reasons why I always wanted to leave Central Europe - but of course there were also issues about being alone all the time too.

For me it was never about to travel to a poor country and find some poor women for sex in Asia and to bring one over to my own native country in Europe - for me it was about relocation - leaving Europe for always.

I think, 88jose88 is somehow misguided by feminist-friendly brainwashing media. - Comments I read from him are always exclusively about 'poor and desperate women and girls' - but never anything about men and boys.

However as a fact which cannot be denied the huge majority of poor people wordwide (ending up jobless, homeless, in jail, alcoholism, drugs, forced to die in combat - see Ukraine - and up to sucide) are men and not women.

There are not only rich men in rich countries but there are also poor men in rich countries.

Yes, of course, Philippines for example is a relatively poor country. However this does not mean that all Filipina women (and again only women) are desperate and living in poverty.
Visit Philippines and you would be surprised how many Filipinas (millions of them!) have a good life and do not miss anything...

[Winston]

I've talked to expats in Angeles City about this. They laughed and said that the Filipinas here are taking advantage of US and getting free money and laughing to the bank. lol. So we are the victims in a sense and they are profitting off us. lol