Older men being perceived as creepy

[tiagomoncada]

I was looking at this other thread about women having a limited shelf life. He, and others assume that men don't have a shelf life, but I have noticed this phenomenon of old men being perceived as creepy by default without having to say, or do anything, let alone approach young women and try to have a conversation. We seem to be living in a world where old men aren't even allowed to say hello to anyone without being labeled as a creep. Are only young men supposed to be out and about having conversations? Also noticable is that older women who talk to men and women are never labeled as creepy. When I say, old, or older, anyone over 30 can be seen as old. As I mentioned in my other post, young women 18 years old were calling 30 year old men old, and dismissing them for no other reason than they're old. I don't think this was always the case, and seems to be getting worse over time. I don't think that even in the 80's, 30 year old men were seen as being creepy, although maybe it was heading toward that direction? In that case, wouldn't it be even worse than having a limited shelf life? If society automatically presumes you to be a creep, then what honestly are your options? It's like being an outcast. And it isn't just women who hate old men, it seems like many young men like to join in on bashing old men too, or at least promoting the idea that old men are creepy, which is kind of stupid, given that they too will be old, and on the receiving end of that hatred sooner rather than later. The only thing women are left with after 30 is being less attractive, and that's it, they won't be approached by men for dates, which is no big deal. whereas with men, we;re kind of stuck with this stigma, label, and creepy identity for no other reason than being old. It seems like there is this hatred towards old men that is simply not there for woman of all ages, and young men. I mean heck, you can be playing chess with a young girl, and be labeled as creepy for doing that, whereas I don't think it would've been an issue in the 60s, or earlier.

[Moretorque]

I was looking at this other thread about women having a limited shelf life. He, and others assume that men don't have a shelf life, but I have noticed this phenomenon of old men being perceived as creepy by default without having to say, or do anything, let alone approach young women and try to have a conversation. We seem to be living in a world where old men aren't even allowed to say hello to anyone without being labeled as a creep. Are only young men supposed to be out and about having conversations? Also noticable is that older women who talk to men and women are never labeled as creepy. When I say, old, or older, anyone over 30 can be seen as old. As I mentioned in my other post, young women 18 years old were calling 30 year old men old, and dismissing them for no other reason than they're old. I don't think this was always the case, and seems to be getting worse over time. I don't think that even in the 80's, 30 year old men were seen as being creepy, although maybe it was heading toward that direction? In that case, wouldn't it be even worse than having a limited shelf life? If society automatically presumes you to be a creep, then what honestly are your options? It's like being an outcast. And it isn't just women who hate old men, it seems like many young men like to join in on bashing old men too, or at least promoting the idea that old men are creepy, which is kind of stupid, given that they too will be old, and on the receiving end of that hatred sooner rather than later. The only thing women are left with after 30 is being less attractive, and that's it, they won't be approached by men for dates, which is no big deal. whereas with men, we;re kind of stuck with this stigma, label, and creepy identity for no other reason than being old. It seems like there is this hatred towards old men that is simply not there for woman of all ages, and young men. I mean heck, you can be playing chess with a young girl, and be labeled as creepy for doing that, whereas I don't think it would've been an issue in the 60s, or earlier.

I think it's time for Logan's Run and we kill everybody over 30.

[willymonfrete]

Look man,if you're that old and don't look young and attractive,sorry to say(well,not really)you should have made wiser choices when you were younger lol

[galii]

I think most older men are kind of creepy I am an old man myself. It is what it is.

[yick]

Older men chasing after younger women is seen as 'creepy' unless you look young enough to pull it off to look OK beside them, I am middle aged - every time a young woman who was interested in me found out my age, most times she lost interest on finding out and I look young for my age. Very few women want to date a man old enough to be their father unless you're Mick Jagger

[MarcosZeitola]

Older men chasing after younger women is seen as 'creepy' unless you look young enough to pull it off to look OK beside them, I am middle aged - every time a young woman who was interested in me found out my age, most times she lost interest on finding out and I look young for my age. Very few women want to date a man old enough to be their father unless you're Mick Jagger

Sometimes this worries me, with the whole aging thing. The fact that your options naturally dwindle. It takes time for a man to acquire the sort of resources to really get his pick of the créme de la créme of women in this world, but by the time we have our ducks in a row financially, most of us are already old, and therefore "creepy". Like right now I have the looks, and the youth, but those fade. In some ways I'm much better off now when it comes to attracting girls, in other ways (financially) I'm at a disadvantage as I'm quite broke.

[tiagomoncada]

Older men chasing after younger women is seen as 'creepy' unless you look young enough to pull it off to look OK beside them, I am middle aged - every time a young woman who was interested in me found out my age, most times she lost interest on finding out and I look young for my age. Very few women want to date a man old enough to be their father unless you're Mick Jagger

Sometimes this worries me, with the whole aging thing. The fact that your options naturally dwindle. It takes time for a man to acquire the sort of resources to really get his pick of the créme de la créme of women in this world, but by the time we have our ducks in a row financially, most of us are already old, and therefore "creepy". Like right now I have the looks, and the youth, but those fade. In some ways I'm much better off now when it comes to attracting girls, in other ways (financially) I'm at a disadvantage as I'm quite broke.

thing is, society looks down on oldl men young women couples. so what ends up hapening is, even if you are rich, you have to sneak around. which is what, ironically chris hanson had to do, because he was having affairs with young women despite being known for catching "predators". even though the younger girlfriend, or wife knows the man has money, and that;s why shes with him, when they go out, people arent going to know that. and really arent going to care. all they will see is a man whos old enough to be her father and most people find that sickening, which puts old men at a disadvantage. even when female teachers are caught smashing their studnets, theyre treated difrently

[tiagomoncada]

I think most older men are kind of creepy I am an old man myself. It is what it is.

whats so creepy about an old man playing basketball by himself?

[yick]

Older men chasing after younger women is seen as 'creepy' unless you look young enough to pull it off to look OK beside them, I am middle aged - every time a young woman who was interested in me found out my age, most times she lost interest on finding out and I look young for my age. Very few women want to date a man old enough to be their father unless you're Mick Jagger

Sometimes this worries me, with the whole aging thing. The fact that your options naturally dwindle. It takes time for a man to acquire the sort of resources to really get his pick of the créme de la créme of women in this world, but by the time we have our ducks in a row financially, most of us are already old, and therefore "creepy". Like right now I have the looks, and the youth, but those fade. In some ways I'm much better off now when it comes to attracting girls, in other ways (financially) I'm at a disadvantage as I'm quite broke.

That is the double edged sword - you get your money, your confidence, your social skills the older you get but from my experience, the actual number scares young women off - especially if you're nearer their parents age. Some women will overlook it but not many in my experience.

[MrMan]

I haven't noticed anyone thinking I was creepy. But I probably give off a safe 'dad' vibe, just a friendly man who looks like a dad to the young 20-somethings, not a tiger ready to pounce on the young gazelle like some of you guys. And maybe I aged out of this 30's creepy age before girls started to consider it creepy.

A bank teller, probably in her late 20's, said I looked like a mayor. I said maybe I could run for mayor of our town, but it doesn't pay enough. We have a part-time mayor and the salary is low, so I couldn't afford it. They were trying to get a full-time salary voted on, but it was less than I make now. Anyway, I don't think mayor means hot or sexy or anything like that, so it didn't inflate my ego too much.

From my perspective, a man just needs one woman, if that, and if you find her, and don't go around looking for other women, the women probably won't pick up on that on-the-hunt-for-women vibe and think you are creepy. And if not and a few annoying women think you are creepy, so what?

And if you are single at 30 or 40 and want to find a 20-year-old still pretty, with tight skin, in child-bearing years, and some of them find you creepy, you can keep looking until you find just one you like who doesn't think you are a creep or who gets over it and falls for you, and who cares what the other girls think?

[galii]

I think most older men are kind of creepy I am an old man myself. It is what it is.

whats so creepy about an old man playing basketball by himself?

Depends in what culture you do it. It is all a matter of context. If you are in China everything goes I guess. They have an awesome park culture where they do what they want.

[MarcosZeitola]

That is the double edged sword - you get your money, your confidence, your social skills the older you get but from my experience, the actual number scares young women off - especially if you're nearer their parents age. Some women will overlook it but not many in my experience.

I guess I'll just have to either age really well and find a girl who's into a silver-haired "daddy" type, or I have to find Mrs. Right a little sooner, say, before forty. Because I really do not like ladies my age or too close to it and I wouldn't want to "settle" too. And as adventurous as my love life has been over the last few years, what I don't want is to miss out on the whole 'growing old together' spiel... at some point as I age, I suppose my libido and naturally high testosterone levels will go down and I won't want to keep on endlessly chasing tail. There's a certain sadness in such a lifestyle, to me. I kind of want to be with someone who can relate to me, who I have many years of living together, of shared memories, with.

Guess that's the duality of the whole thing... on the one hand, variety really is the spice of life. On the other hand, I want stability. Perhaps it's impossible to have your cake and eat it too. So I'll make a choice to settle for one lady, possibly within the next few years. And stay with her for a lifetime. I was willing to do that with my ex-wife, too, and I can make such a commitment again if the right girl comes along. She'll have to be quite something, though!

[Will N. Dowd]

They are only seen as creepy if they are not either good looking, rich and/or famous.
Example: I highly doubt George Clooney has ever been called creepy.

[tiagomoncada]

I haven't noticed anyone thinking I was creepy. But I probably give off a safe 'dad' vibe, just a friendly man who looks like a dad to the young 20-somethings, not a tiger ready to pounce on the young gazelle like some of you guys. And maybe I aged out of this 30's creepy age before girls started to consider it creepy.

A bank teller, probably in her late 20's, said I looked like a mayor. I said maybe I could run for mayor of our town, but it doesn't pay enough. We have a part-time mayor and the salary is low, so I couldn't afford it. They were trying to get a full-time salary voted on, but it was less than I make now. Anyway, I don't think mayor means hot or sexy or anything like that, so it didn't inflate my ego too much.

From my perspective, a man just needs one woman, if that, and if you find her, and don't go around looking for other women, the women probably won't pick up on that on-the-hunt-for-women vibe and think you are creepy. And if not and a few annoying women think you are creepy, so what?

And if you are single at 30 or 40 and want to find a 20-year-old still pretty, with tight skin, in child-bearing years, and some of them find you creepy, you can keep looking until you find just one you like who doesn't think you are a creep or who gets over it and falls for you, and who cares what the other girls think?

well i doubt people will tell you to your face that you are creepy. as far as the mayor thing goes, couldnt you be both mayor and creepy at the same time? i mean alot of people have said that joe biden likes touching kids, and people have accused trump of doing creepy things with beauty pagents. yea youre right, you only need one woman. but the fact remains that men get this creepy label even though they havent necesarily done anything, whereas women dont get the same kinds of label. the fact that society in general thinks that old men are creepy greatly reduces the number of women you have access to. if this stereotype of creepy men didnt exist, maybe out of 100 women, 50 of them would at least be open to having a conversation with you, whereas in the current state, only maybe 5 will, and out of those 5, less than one would be a match when it comes to dating. so it matters a lot. actually i know another guy who isnt even that bad looking, and women were open to talking to him, but as soon as he said he was 35, the conversation ended.


in fact, i feel like this creepy label contributes to why many men end up going overseas looking for women. there are guys going to latin america, asia, for no other reason than to look for women, and many of them do so because theyre seen as creepy back home

[tiagomoncada]

They are only seen as creepy if they are not either good looking, rich and/or famous.
Example: I highly doubt George Clooney has ever been called creepy.

if a rich old guy is walking around college campuses trying to talk to students, i dont think him being rich is going to shield him from being stigmatized, because all the people around campus will just see an old guy trying to talk to women. no ones going to ask to see his bank account, and even if they do see his bank account, rich men will still be stigmatized for it if the community at large finds out. michael jackson's another good example. alot of people say that he wasnt even really molesting kids, but because he was hanging around kids, they saw him as being creepy. 99% of people, with or without evidence is not really going to question those accusations. rob lowe also still has this shadow hanging over him, despite all the years that has passed since he was dating young girls. the famous men who mess around with young women are usually doing it in a low profile way. the fact that they have to do is covertly just goes to show that people easily jump to the conclusion