It appears that Tsar wrote a "final message" to the forum

[Shemp]

I read it. Unrepentant about his unlawful intentions to groom and have sex with girls as young as 13. FBI probably has a file on him. Meanwhile, the fool is still a virgin himself so probably won't know what to do if he did get a teen girl. Definitely premature ejaculation, among other forms of incompetence.

We miss your prankishness, Tsar, but not your discussions of illegal behavior.

[galii]

I read it. Unrepentant about his unlawful intentions to groom and have sex with girls as young as 13. FBI probably has a file on him. Meanwhile, the fool is still a virgin himself so probably won't know what to do if he did get a teen girl. Definitely premature ejaculation, among other forms of incompetence.

We miss your prankishness, Tsar, but not your discussions of illegal behavior.

13 years old? I am shure Lucas and Pixie can explain why it is not a problem

[Yohan]

OK, he is gone now. His future? Up to him.

I told TSAR many times, that this forum is called 'Happier Abroad' - which in general means to look for a foreign wife/girlfriend and very likely if possible checking out about the possibility moving away from your own native country and considering relocation to another nation, even to another continent.

I also told him clearly to stay away and to refrain from any dating of minor-age foreign girls. Keep in mind you are the foreign man in their country. It is important to make sure if you are living abroad that your female partner with you is at least 18, in Asia maybe even better 20 as a minimum age requirement.

If you don't do that, you might find yourself in severe legal trouble while abroad.

[galii]

Sorry Winston
Post by Tsar » June 29th, 2021, 9:04 am

I want to apologize for making a post you didn't think should be posted. I forget sometimes how the #MeToo movement, the Witch Hunts, and the brainwashed zombified masses have a habit of targeting free speech so I get it is necessary to keep the "teen talk" off-site.

I will be creating an off-site spot for my controversial stuff. Friends can get a link...
Forum moderator @jamesbond is the most worthless forum moderator in the history of the internet. He thinks he's clever if he's acting like a sneaky, dirty Jew! I have been watching you since my posts began getting deleted or moved to NSFW section over a week ago. FÜCK YOU loser mod! @jamesbond is more like @janebond because he's a coward, lazy, and honestly thought he would get away with acting like a sneaky Jew Rat! Caught you, you dirty Jew Rat Mod, with my Victory to Russia thread! What will you do now?

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[Mew6ix]

Is the pic of that chick laying prone on the bed wearing a g-string thong and showing her ass cheeks at least 18 years old?

I'd think twice before sharing that site.

The chick's age has to be verified as at least 18, or else feminazis will complain about HA sharing controversial URLs.

Feminazis somehow get the SPEECH Act tossed away in their favour, as website providers are not responsible for what their users post.

[WanderingProtagonist]

OK, he is gone now. His future? Up to him.

I told TSAR many times, that this forum is called 'Happier Abroad' - which in general means to look for a foreign wife/girlfriend and very likely if possible checking out about the possibility moving away from your own native country and considering relocation to another nation, even to another continent.

I also told him clearly to stay away and to refrain from any dating of minor-age foreign girls. Keep in mind you are the foreign man in their country. It is important to make sure if you are living abroad that your female partner with you is at least 18, in Asia maybe even better 20 as a minimum age requirement.

If you don't do that, you might find yourself in severe legal trouble while abroad.

Well not everyone can even do that, some people really are stuck and without options. I try to be more sympathetic with conditions of men in Tsar's position. I know for a fact I'm not very fortunate, I just never really talk about it.

[Outcast9428]

OK, he is gone now. His future? Up to him.

I told TSAR many times, that this forum is called 'Happier Abroad' - which in general means to look for a foreign wife/girlfriend and very likely if possible checking out about the possibility moving away from your own native country and considering relocation to another nation, even to another continent.

I also told him clearly to stay away and to refrain from any dating of minor-age foreign girls. Keep in mind you are the foreign man in their country. It is important to make sure if you are living abroad that your female partner with you is at least 18, in Asia maybe even better 20 as a minimum age requirement.

If you don't do that, you might find yourself in severe legal trouble while abroad.

Why would you need to restrict yourself to 20+ in Asia? Asia cares a lot less about teenage girls getting married then the US does. In Thailand some 25% of girls marry before they are 18 years old. The average age of marriage there is 21.

[Yohan]

Why would you need to restrict yourself to 20+ in Asia? Asia cares a lot less about teenage girls getting married then the US does. In Thailand some 25% of girls marry before they are 18 years old. The average age of marriage there is 21.

Ask all these foreign men who are in jail in Asia for sex with minors. I can only advice be careful, Thailand is a good example for corruption. What is good among young Thai girls and boys does not mean it is good for you as a foreign man in his 40s. You will need quite a lot of money to bribe the police to get away if accused, keep in mind that parental rights are rather strong in some Asian countries too.

Same is true with Philippines, stay away from minors.

The same nonsense is also said about Japan, that you can sleep with every 13-y/o girl. Expect yourself in big trouble if you do that.

[publicduende]

Ask all these foreign men who are in jail in Asia for sex with minors. I can only advice be careful, Thailand is a good example for corruption. What is good among young Thai girls and boys does not mean it is good for you as a foreign man in his 40s. You will need quite a lot of money to bribe the police to get away if accused, keep in mind that parental rights are rather strong in some Asian countries too.

Same is true with Philippines, stay away from minors.

The same nonsense is also said about Japan, that you can sleep with every 13-y/o girl. Expect yourself in big trouble if you do that.

Well said @Yohan. The Philippines are sadly known for being very "porous" to pedophiles and all sorts of sexpats interested in minors. Even more hideously, there is a traditional culture of child abuse in the family, here, especially among the poorer families in rural areas. Lots of little girls lose their virginity to an uncle, a cousin, a family friend, sometimes even a brother or their fathers. Sad but true.

This doesn't mean, though, that foreigners should get away with this s*it! If we really claim to come from more civilised societies, then it's on us to prove that by setting the moral standard bar a lot higher.

[Outcast9428]

Why would you need to restrict yourself to 20+ in Asia? Asia cares a lot less about teenage girls getting married then the US does. In Thailand some 25% of girls marry before they are 18 years old. The average age of marriage there is 21.

Ask all these foreign men who are in jail in Asia for sex with minors. I can only advice be careful, Thailand is a good example for corruption. What is good among young Thai girls and boys does not mean it is good for you as a foreign man in his 40s. You will need quite a lot of money to bribe the police to get away if accused, keep in mind that parental rights are rather strong in some Asian countries too.

Same is true with Philippines, stay away from minors.

The same nonsense is also said about Japan, that you can sleep with every 13-y/o girl. Expect yourself in big trouble if you do that.

I mean, I'm 24 years old so, not in my 40s lol. I do agree that a guy in his 40s shouldn't be trying to date a teenage girl. More because the age gap is so extreme, not because I think teenage girls shouldn't date in general. I think its fine if a 15/16 year old girl dates a guy who's like 20. I spoke with a guy from Japan and he told me that's pretty normal in Japan. That a lot of parents are okay with it. The age of consent law in Japan is very specific about parental consent. Basically, you can't try to seduce a random 15 year old girl but if you're in a sincere romantic relationship with parental consent, then its legal.

The anime, Tonikawa Kawaii, features an 18 year old guy and a 16 year old girl getting married and the anime treats it like its a good thing that should happen more often. The guy is the breadwinner in the relationship while the girl is a housewife. They are both very responsible and living on their own. I'm not arguing that this is normal in Japan, I'm just saying people there don't express the same shock and moral outrage at the idea that Americans do.

That being said, for me its not so much that I really want to date a 16 year old girl. At a certain point, there are practical issues with a relationship that has a huge age gap. Its more so that I think its a positive indication of culture when the culture encourages girls of that age to have serious romantic relationships that lead to marriage. It is really disappointing to see so many nations setting 18 as a minimum age for marriage. I feel like 15 is oldest minimum age a nation can justify having for a minimum age of marriage. You can impose age gap laws if you want to prevent 40 year old dudes from marrying 15 or 14 year olds but don't prohibit teenagers from getting married to each other and building their lives. Both my parents and my ex girlfriend's parents met each other when they were high school age and there is definitely something to the idea that it forges a unique romantic bond having sort of grown up together.

Liberals and feminists don't mention this, but lots of times, arranged marriages in rural villages of countries like Indonesia, India, and Thailand are between teenagers who've known each other all their lives.

[Outcast9428]

Well said @Yohan. The Philippines are sadly known for being very "porous" to pedophiles and all sorts of sexpats interested in minors. Even more hideously, there is a traditional culture of child abuse in the family, here, especially among the poorer families in rural areas. Lots of little girls lose their virginity to an uncle, a cousin, a family friend, sometimes even a brother or their fathers. Sad but true.

This doesn't mean, though, that foreigners should get away with this s*it! If we really claim to come from more civilised societies, then it's on us to prove that by setting the moral standard bar a lot higher.

The more I think about it, the more I feel that the presence of foreigners in the Philippines is, by and large, a net negative thing. So many degenerates, so many simps, so many men who mistreat girls, leave them to the dirt, abandon or betray them. Or who get betrayed, and end up pitifully poor, broke, destitute, begging on the streets or begging online to Saint Raffy Tulfo for forgiveness of their sins and a second chance... It's just, sad. There are of course those big-time dudes, the high-earners, young investors, employees of the better-run foreign firms in BGC or Makati, the clean-cut fellows who have their shit together. But so many absolute dregs of society, too. It's hard to not be disillusioned.

The problem with the pedophile expats is that they don't just go for sixteen year olds the way Tsar might do if he ever went East, but they go for really, really young children. Elementary school aged and below. Sometimes even infants. It's absolutely sickening. Pedophiles, whether foreign or "homegrown" ought to be castrated or summarily executed like the dogs they are.

I do agree that the majority of foreigners in countries like Japan, Thailand, and the Philippines are bad for the country. This forum is proof of that. Guys like CaptainSkelebob are committed to cheating on his hypothetical future Thai wife before he even marries her.

I read about a bunch of Californians moving to Mexico for the low cost of living, and they immediately started joining activist groups and protesting for "women's rights." Some foreigners move to other countries because they profoundly disagree with their home country's values and they really want to live amongst people with different values. But most foreigners are not like that, and you can see proof of that with every story around the world of a country that allows mass migration. Most foreigners end up just trying to export some version of their home country's culture and values onto their host country. They don't change their behavior to fit their host country's culture. Most of them end up being subversive. Of course there are exceptions to this rule. But I really believe that every country in the world should force potential immigrants to submit to a culture and values test before letting them immigrate. And if they are latter discovered to be flagrantly violating the country's mores and culture, then just deport them. Nobody has a right to live in a country that wasn't theirs to begin with. Any immigrant should feel grateful that another country is letting them live there. Its like asking to live in another's family's home. Imagine if your own family was abusive and then another family lets you live in their home and you reward their generosity by blatantly violating the rules of their family/household? Anybody should be EXTREMELY GRATEFUL that the foreign country let them live there. But most immigrants just act like they are entitled to live there.

I've said this before and I'll say it again. If I was a politician in these countries, I'd be more xenophobic and "racist" then the actual people living in these countries are.

[Outcast9428]

I mean, I'm 24 years old so, not in my 40s lol. I do agree that a guy in his 40s shouldn't be trying to date a teenage girl. More because the age gap is so extreme, not because I think teenage girls shouldn't date in general. I think its fine if a 15/16 year old girl dates a guy who's like 20. I spoke with a guy from Japan and he told me that's pretty normal in Japan. That a lot of parents are okay with it. The age of consent law in Japan is very specific about parental consent. Basically, you can't try to seduce a random 15 year old girl but if you're in a sincere romantic relationship with parental consent, then its legal.

The anime, Tonikawa Kawaii, features an 18 year old guy and a 16 year old girl getting married and the anime treats it like its a good thing that should happen more often. The guy is the breadwinner in the relationship while the girl is a housewife. They are both very responsible and living on their own. I'm not arguing that this is normal in Japan, I'm just saying people there don't express the same shock and moral outrage at the idea that Americans do.

That being said, for me its not so much that I really want to date a 16 year old girl. At a certain point, there are practical issues with a relationship that has a huge age gap. Its more so that I think its a positive indication of culture when the culture encourages girls of that age to have serious romantic relationships that lead to marriage. It is really disappointing to see so many nations setting 18 as a minimum age for marriage. I feel like 15 is oldest minimum age a nation can justify having for a minimum age of marriage. You can impose age gap laws if you want to prevent 40 year old dudes from marrying 15 or 14 year olds but don't prohibit teenagers from getting married to each other and building their lives. Both my parents and my ex girlfriend's parents met each other when they were high school age and there is definitely something to the idea that it forges a unique romantic bond having sort of grown up together.

Liberals and feminists don't mention this, but lots of times, arranged marriages in rural villages of countries like Indonesia, India, and Thailand are between teenagers who've known each other all their lives.

If you look at it from a strictly practical point of view, the "age gap" being seen as a bad thing by definition doesn't make sense; that's Westernized thinking. In "the olden days" a man would typically marry only when he would be able to provide for a family. Most teenaged boys are not capable of providing for a family, cannot raise kids and give those kids and their mother a roof over their heads, food, school supplies, clothing and such. But a man who is, say, thirty-five or older, would probably have established himself in his career, would have gained life experience, have some savings and could probably afford a family home.

A sixteen-year-old girl marrying an eighteen year old guy, like in the cartoon you mentioned, seems like a recipe for disaster. Whereas a guy ten or fifteen years older than the girl will likely have much more maturity and financial stability. Many teenage boys are utterly useless, play video games all day, some vape or smoke weed or drink at alarming rates and their discipline is just, sorely lacking. A more sensible thing would be for the younger girl to marry a guy who's at least ten years older than her.

I would personally put the ideal age for a girl to marry no younger than sixteen, because fifteen or fourteen year olds often have hips that are simply too narrow for childbirth; they almost always have get c-sections, after which their ability to carry future children to term is often somewhat limited and their family size will also be smaller. Sixteen and above, from a biological perspective, is ideal. And establishing a family, first and foremost, ought to be the traditionalist man's main objective so all rules regarding marital age and age of consent should be centered around what is wise in that regard, and that regard only.

The issue is that a 35 year old man who marries a 16 year old girl is going to force her to deal with an incredible number of his health issues when she shouldn't be having to worry about that. Some of these include the fact that he's probably going to be dead before the girl is even 60 years old. He could suffer from some form of impotency before the girl is even 30. Not a guarantee obviously but it does happen quite often. Approximately 33% of men experience some form of impotency by the time they are 50 years old.

From a personal, selfish perspective. I don't want to normalize age gaps that large because I don't want to get married that late in life. To me, 35 years old is an outrageously old age to get married. I know its normal nowadays for a lot of people but I strongly feel it is a societal abomination that so many people marry this late in life. If its normal for guy who are way older then girls to be marrying them, it will come alongside the expectation that men wait quite a long time to get married.

Traditionally, it was actually quite possible to be established by the time you were 18 years old. Wouldn't have applied to most men. Most men married in their early to mid 20s. But it was possible. If a guy in his early to mid 20s marries a teenage girl I don't think that's really a problem either. But when you have really extreme age gaps like 35 and 16, I do think that's too much because men's physical health starts declining around the age of 35, it gets faster around 40, and then it really accelerates after 50.

My father is about to turn 60, and I'm already seeing my mom, kind of have to take care of him. Men take care of women when they are newly weds and middle aged. But women are mostly the ones who take care of men as they get old. For one thing, men die younger then women do. Women's physical health maintains itself longer then men's does. When you add that on top of a normal, healthy age gap, a woman may be in the same physical shape as the man was about a decade earlier in his lifetime. I can say that physically, my dad seems like he's becoming an old man whereas my mom seems the same as ever. That's despite the fact that I believe my dad is in better physical shape then most men his age are.

Let's say a woman has her first kid at 18, another kid at 21, another one at 23, and the last one at 25. By the age of 40, she could be having to deal with her husband's physical problems while also dealing with the teenage drama inflicted on her by the 15, 17, and 19 year olds in her household. I can imagine that being a very isolating experience for her and she could end up feeling like the only person in the household equipped to deal with things.

Personally, I don't think people need to have kids immediately as they marry. I think when you first get married, its good to have a few years to get used to living on your own and take care of a house before you take care of a baby. My parents did that, and my sister and her husband did that too. If people get married too late in life, it doesn't give them the opportunity to have that "settling in" period.

[Outcast9428]

It's honestly sickening and all it takes is one president with an ounce of national pride to put an end to so much of this madness. They don't, of course, because money speaks louder than morality.

Its insane to me how difficult it is to find presidents who are like that. Its a big reason why I lowkey simp for Viktor Orban of Hungary so much. He's a truly rare example of a president who actually seems to give a shit about his country, who has genuine national pride, and wants to see his people prosper. Its also why I supported Donald Trump. He's definitely got a lot of flaws and behaviors that I don't like but at least he has genuine national pride and a backbone to show for it. To some extent, Vladimir Putin is like that too. Even if he's an authoritarian leader, Putin has way more integrity then Biden does. For me, I measure how good a president/leader is by the simple metric of "does this president actually give a shit about the people he is leading?" Biden makes it abundantly clear that he does not. If the president genuinely gives a shit about his people, then I am much more forgiving of authoritarian/autocratic tendencies because those kind of leaders get called authoritarian for not tolerating subversive elements of their culture. Viktor Orban does not kill or imprison any of his political opponents but he gets called an authoritarian ruler because he doesn't tolerate perverted teachers trying to indoctrinate Hungarian children, because he is trying to control all the institutions of power and influence in Hungary, and he is trying to buy up all the media outlets in the country so they'll repeat his government's message.

But the fact of the matter is, those are the things you have to do to protect and build your country. You can't have media outlets telling everybody that they're transphobic if they don't let their son chop his penis off. You can't have media outlets telling girls that its cool to be a slut. So what if he's "eliminating the opposition's power" when the opposition is "lets all become self-destructive, self-loathing, morally depraved degenerates" and his side is "let's get married, have families, preserve our traditions, be proud of our history, and feel proud to be Hungarians?" Orban and the Fidesz party have no problem siding with other socially conservative parties like Mi Hazank and the KNDP party. They don't use their power against green/environmentalist parties either. Its just the socialist party and social liberalism in general that Fidesz employs its Machiavellian tactics towards because social liberalism is honestly just cultural suicide.

[Outcast9428]

The issue is that a 35 year old man who marries a 16 year old girl is going to force her to deal with an incredible number of his health issues when she shouldn't be having to worry about that. Some of these include the fact that he's probably going to be dead before the girl is even 60 years old. He could suffer from some form of impotency before the girl is even 30. Not a guarantee obviously but it does happen quite often. Approximately 33% of men experience some form of impotency by the time they are 50 years old.

From a personal, selfish perspective. I don't want to normalize age gaps that large because I don't want to get married that late in life. To me, 35 years old is an outrageously old age to get married. I know its normal nowadays for a lot of people but I strongly feel it is a societal abomination that so many people marry this late in life. If its normal for guy who are way older then girls to be marrying them, it will come alongside the expectation that men wait quite a long time to get married.

Traditionally, it was actually quite possible to be established by the time you were 18 years old. Wouldn't have applied to most men. Most men married in their early to mid 20s. But it was possible. If a guy in his early to mid 20s marries a teenage girl I don't think that's really a problem either. But when you have really extreme age gaps like 35 and 16, I do think that's too much because men's physical health starts declining around the age of 35, it gets faster around 40, and then it really accelerates after 50.

My father is about to turn 60, and I'm already seeing my mom, kind of have to take care of him. Men take care of women when they are newly weds and middle aged. But women are mostly the ones who take care of men as they get old. For one thing, men die younger then women do. Women's physical health maintains itself longer then men's does. When you add that on top of a normal, healthy age gap, a woman may be in the same physical shape as the man was about a decade earlier in his lifetime. I can say that physically, my dad seems like he's becoming an old man whereas my mom seems the same as ever. That's despite the fact that I believe my dad is in better physical shape then most men his age are.

Let's say a woman has her first kid at 18, another kid at 21, another one at 23, and the last one at 25. By the age of 40, she could be having to deal with her husband's physical problems while also dealing with the teenage drama inflicted on her by the 15, 17, and 19 year olds in her household. I can imagine that being a very isolating experience for her and she could end up feeling like the only person in the household equipped to deal with things.

Personally, I don't think people need to have kids immediately as they marry. I think when you first get married, its good to have a few years to get used to living on your own and take care of a house before you take care of a baby. My parents did that, and my sister and her husband did that too. If people get married too late in life, it doesn't give them the opportunity to have that "settling in" period.

All fair points, brother. Although I am not sure "normalizing larger age gaps" means you, yourself, will be 'forced' to marry later in life. You're still free to marry early if that is your wish, and I do see the wisdom in not marrying too late in life. I do think that, these days, it takes longer for a man to establish himself in his career and in society. Especially if the goal is to have the wife stay at home and care for the household and be a single income family; the man will have to be able to provide, financially, and he won't be ready to do so at eighteen. He may not be even be able yet at twenty-five. But around thirty, he should have settled somewhat into his career, his professional life.

Having an age gap makes sense, too, when you take into account female fertility. It'll go down rather massively after a girl hits her thirties, and ideally you'd want to "space out" your kids somewhat, not have one every year, so you can avoid complications. So if you would like to have a few 'practice years' sans children, for sure you'd like your future spouse to be quite young.

I do agree that having a husband be twenty years older than his wife isn't really an ideal scenario. But a man who stays fit, doesn't smoke and doesn't drink or eat to excess will likely still be quiet fit well into his sixties, seventies and even eighties. I remember my maternal grandfather still being able to do one-handed push-ups at the age of seventy-five, for instance. He lived long enough to see four of his great-grandchildren being born. But yes, he did marry early in life. Met his wife when she was seventeen and he was nineteen. Such things were still possible back in the day. Now, it's just harder and it's good to have realistic outlooks. Sometimes things won't be "ideal" but that doesn''t mean they should be frowned upon.

Normalizing larger age gaps is ultimately a net positive, because the alternative is to label a man with a much-younger spouse as some sort of cradle-robbing degenerate, a borderline pervert just for being "old enough to be her dad". I often see such men mocked online by feminists and manginas and its quite unbecoming, when for all we know such a relationship may be perfectly loving, stable and to the mutual benefit of the older man and his young wife. And sure, he may die long before her, but that's not really the end of the world. Say a man dies at 85, his wife is 65. She'll have to spend the next decades as a widow, she likely already has her share of grandchildren, perhaps great-grandchildren and she's the matriarch of a growing family. These are her finest years and while she may miss her husband terribly... she's still got a valuable role to play and her final years may well be her golden years.

The feminist criticism of age gaps comes from a really stupid perspective. They whine about "power difference" and "but he has so much more wealth and experience then she does." This is just the usual line of feminism which is to sabotage the best bargaining chip men have that attracts women. Most of what makes a marriage/relationship work is the man having more wealth, resources, and experience then the woman does and that's exactly what feminists don't like about it. This is why a man who is four or five years older then the woman is a lot more attractive to her then a man who is her age.

I should reiterate that when I said "normalizing age gaps." I meant extreme age gaps of 10 or more years. I don't even think of 4 or 5 years as "an age gap." That's just a normal relationship. Of course I've seen feminists online acting like a 22 year old guy who dates an 18 year old is a pedophile .

For me, the main reason why I think extreme age gaps are bad is purely because of physical health reasons. My dad doesn't drink, smoke, and he exercises regularly and he's still experiencing noticeable mental decline and physical problems. I'm sure there are healthy men in their 70s and 80s, but its not the norm and a person shouldn't expect that to be the case. You can try to achieve it of course, but you could do everything right, but a 70 year old man is still a 70 year old man. A man living to the age of 85 would be highly unexpected given that the life expectancy for men is 76. Amongst men who survive to the age of 80... 90% of them die between 80 and 90 years old. So once you're 80 years old, there's a 10% chance of you dying every year. I know that's kind of morbid to point out but the point I'm making is that, the average woman would find herself a widow when she's only about 55 years old and on average will live 25 years without her husband. That in my opinion, is really sad. She could remarry of course, but its not the same as being with the person you first married and had kids with.

This idea that older men and younger girls can't possibly love each other, however, is ridiculous. That being said, I do think long term love that is born out of adolescent love is a very special thing.

Keep in mind in the kind of system where an 18 year old might marry a 16 year old girl. I would expect that society would raise teenagers to be much more responsible and adult-like then current Western society does. In current Western society, an embarrassing number of people who are 30, 40, or even in their 50s essentially have the same level of maturity as a 14 year old boy because they never actually grew up. They just became a 14 year old boy with more money and freedom.

[galii]

It's honestly sickening and all it takes is one president with an ounce of national pride to put an end to so much of this madness. They don't, of course, because money speaks louder than morality.

Its insane to me how difficult it is to find presidents who are like that. Its a big reason why I lowkey simp for Viktor Orban of Hungary so much. He's a truly rare example of a president who actually seems to give a shit about his country, who has genuine national pride, and wants to see his people prosper. Its also why I supported Donald Trump. He's definitely got a lot of flaws and behaviors that I don't like but at least he has genuine national pride and a backbone to show for it. To some extent, Vladimir Putin is like that too. Even if he's an authoritarian leader, Putin has way more integrity then Biden does. For me, I measure how good a president/leader is by the simple metric of "does this president actually give a shit about the people he is leading?" Biden makes it abundantly clear that he does not. If the president genuinely gives a shit about his people, then I am much more forgiving of authoritarian/autocratic tendencies because those kind of leaders get called authoritarian for not tolerating subversive elements of their culture. Viktor Orban does not kill or imprison any of his political opponents but he gets called an authoritarian ruler because he doesn't tolerate perverted teachers trying to indoctrinate Hungarian children, because he is trying to control all the institutions of power and influence in Hungary, and he is trying to buy up all the media outlets in the country so they'll repeat his government's message.

But the fact of the matter is, those are the things you have to do to protect and build your country. You can't have media outlets telling everybody that they're transphobic if they don't let their son chop his penis off. You can't have media outlets telling girls that its cool to be a slut. So what if he's "eliminating the opposition's power" when the opposition is "lets all become self-destructive, self-loathing, morally depraved degenerates" and his side is "let's get married, have families, preserve our traditions, be proud of our history, and feel proud to be Hungarians?" Orban and the Fidesz party have no problem siding with other socially conservative parties like Mi Hazank and the KNDP party. They don't use their power against green/environmentalist parties either. Its just the socialist party and social liberalism in general that Fidesz employs its Machiavellian tactics towards because social liberalism is honestly just cultural suicide.

Medi outlets take orders from certain Institutions they do not decide by themselves.