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mattyman
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People can disagree civilly even if they don't agree; don't be an aggressor

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In December 2020 I did a post titled 'Why did the world decide to copy the Wuhan lockdown'. I was hoping that there would be more questioning.

Here is the link;
https://mail.happierabroad.com/forum/vi ... p?p=351787

What I thought was a good person FLIPPED & attacked me for voicing opinion! I asked him halfway through why 'have you lost someone due to covid?' He answered' yes', but didn't elaborate, then went onto attacking me, hurling insults (view the thread).

Moral of the story; don't derail another poster's subsequent threads, especially if they've made an effort to try to understand you & why you react that way (look at the link).

Do not attack that poster on THEIR threads if they talk about other things. Don't be surprised if they dislike you, especially if you only comment on their threads to purely to insult them, even if those subsequent threads have nothing to do with you.

Don't be an aggressor.

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Re: People can disagree civilly even if they don't agree; don't be an aggressor

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If person X believes that person Y should be dead, and person Y believes that person X should be dead, how exactly are they supposed to disagree civilly? I think the best one can hope for is for them to ignore each other.

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fschmidt wrote:
August 23rd, 2021, 9:01 pm
If person X believes that person Y should be dead, and person Y believes that person X should be dead, how exactly are they supposed to disagree civilly? I think the best one can hope for is for them to ignore each other.
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Gali wrote:
August 23rd, 2021, 10:52 pm
fschmidt wrote:
August 23rd, 2021, 9:01 pm
If person X believes that person Y should be dead, and person Y believes that person X should be dead, how exactly are they supposed to disagree civilly? I think the best one can hope for is for them to ignore each other.
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It's a really strange post.

What has this got to do with Happier Abroad?

Nothing, that's what.

Now, posters like @MarcosZeitola has offered to help you regards what's stopping you from moving abroad - COVID-19 hasn't stopped you - it's an excuse for you and your lack of ambition maybe but if COVID-19 hadn't had happened - you would not have gone anywhere.

You tried expating to Spain but you didn't last too long out there, now I am sure there are many posters on here who could help you @Shemp there's @MrMan there's @Yohan there's @publicduende and if they're reading on here there's @hypermak and @Contrarian Expatriate who can help you get to the bottom of your fears and help you with a plan so this time next year or whenever the restrictions have been lifted (and they will one day...) you can go on your merry way.

This site is 'Happier Abroad' not 'I want to whinge about COVID-19 all day and night'.

How can any of help you with moving abroad - you're 35 now, you're not getting any younger but you still have time to do something about it.

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Why'd ya post this? You're not going to get the forum to change man. Just ignore the clowns like I do and focus on getting abroad. I say again, CORNFED made moves. If you can't, somethin' wrong.
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yick wrote:
August 24th, 2021, 6:17 am
It's a really strange post.
What has this got to do with Happier Abroad?
Nothing, that's what.

A really strange post - what is the purpose of this thread?

When reading back the link given,

https://mail.happierabroad.com/forum/vi ... p?p=351787

I found it's not even a very long thread and it contains various reasonable comments, BTW some of them were written by myself.

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OP is evidently one of those hyper-sensitive snowflake Millennials and triggers easily and is currently going through an emotional meltdown because some people here weren't nice to him. This is not a good forum for snowflakes, though he is welcome to stay as far as I'm concerned.

Maybe he should stick to the occult philosophy threads, which tend to be less combative.

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The member Yick took a sudden disliking to me in response to this linked thread. I guess no-one has read the discussion.
OP is evidently one of those hyper-sensitive snowflake Millennials and triggers easily and is currently going through an emotional meltdown because some people here weren't nice to him
Nope, read the linked post, see for yourself. Again sir, try not to fall into name-calling/labelling. I like a diversity of viewpoints. Attacking and insulting people personally is not a viewpoint on the matter at hand.

I want to get to the bottom of what caused the guy to flip. I'm surprised at the level of evasiveness.

Re Man with a Plan
Why'd ya post this? You're not going to get the forum to change man. Just ignore the clowns like I do and focus on getting abroad. I say again, CORNFED made moves. If you can't, somethin' wrong.
You're right on one part, ain't going to change the forum. True ignore the clowns.
If you can't, somethin' wrong.
This forum should be helping people to identify their barriers, it should be. Just because someone hasn't got a plan doesn't mean they've got no right to talk about current issues.

The main point is, do disagree civilly. DON'T RESORT TO INSULTS AND ATTACKS OF THE PERSON, the opinion. The reason I'm bringing this up is because EVERY thread I've made, that member has replied to to NOTHING BUT derail the discussion, make it all about attacking the PERSON not the OP.
Criticise the OPINION and not the PERSON.

Free speech is about different opinions.

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mattyman wrote:
August 25th, 2021, 3:57 pm
The member Yick took a sudden disliking to me in response to this linked thread. I guess no-one has read the discussion.
OP is evidently one of those hyper-sensitive snowflake Millennials and triggers easily and is currently going through an emotional meltdown because some people here weren't nice to him
Nope, read the linked post, see for yourself. Again sir, try not to fall into name-calling/labelling. I like a diversity of viewpoints. Attacking and insulting people personally is not a viewpoint on the matter at hand.

I want to get to the bottom of what caused the guy to flip. I'm surprised at the level of evasiveness.

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Why'd ya post this? You're not going to get the forum to change man. Just ignore the clowns like I do and focus on getting abroad. I say again, CORNFED made moves. If you can't, somethin' wrong.
You're right on one part, ain't going to change the forum. True ignore the clowns.
If you can't, somethin' wrong.
This forum should be helping people to identify their barriers, it should be. Just because someone hasn't got a plan doesn't mean they've got no right to talk about current issues.

The main point is, do disagree civilly. DON'T RESORT TO INSULTS AND ATTACKS OF THE PERSON, the opinion. The reason I'm bringing this up is because EVERY thread I've made, that member has replied to to NOTHING BUT derail the discussion, make it all about attacking the PERSON not the OP.
Criticise the OPINION and not the PERSON.

Free speech is about different opinions.
I haven't took a 'disliking' to you - I don't know you and wouldn't know you if I tripped up on you in the street - I dislike the order and choice of words you post on here because it is amazingly dishonest.

You have blamed this pandemic for stopping you living your life in Armenia and if anyone decides to read your backlog of posts, we know that you have anxiety issues which don't involve a move abroad anytime soon (which is why you lasted two weeks in Spain), you just adopted victim rhetoric to justify your boring, fact free posts on here - and in fact you have now admitted that you don't have a plan - which is fine by the way, you don't have to move abroad to find happiness and many don't but why are you here? The forum is called 'Happier Abroad'.

You have admitted even your own friends on facebook are fed up of your rainman style obsessions on this pandemic so why do you think we are going to be any more receptive to you?

By the way, everyone has read your link and if I am right - you had the last word so I don't know what you are talking about.

You also have a very grating, feminine style of debate and discussion - have you thought about posting on mumsnet?

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