I heard from stardusk aka thinking ape tv that there is a law in brazil that says if a woman says you abused her,you will go to jail automatically,be raped by men in prisons back to back and then live with a STD or HIV and the trauma of having been raped,even if you were innocent and get let free.
how many other countries have such laws?
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Re: Raped by men in Brazilian prisons-mgtow
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it's true....get into a argument and then woman can call the cops,you lose your house and go to jail.
it's true....get into a argument and then woman can call the cops,you lose your house and go to jail.
Re: Raped by men in Brazilian prisons-mgtow
I didn't see anything in those laws that said the man was automatically guilty. But we know how the system can work in some states in the US. Laws may not actually be as strictly enforced in some of the countries outside the Anglo-sphere, which are more sticklers for the letter of the law than most other cultures. Anglo/common law legal systems are the 'strongest' legal institutions.
I also didn't see anything about prison rape in there.
In at least one US state, they do have misdemeanor domestic violence assault charges. Not every state just believes the woman, throws the man in jail, takes away the kids if the woman won't press charges, etc. I'm not saying that doesn't happen in some places and in some extreme cases.
I saw an 1800's NC Supreme Court ruling on a domestic violence case where the court made decisions along the lines that marriage was something ordained by God that they couldn't intrude too far into.
I'm not sure where the right place to draw the line is. I understand the marital rape laws. On the other hand, why is a woman denying her husband sex in the first place? If she's not sore, having her period, etc., sex is a marital right, duty, etc. In some states, if a wife wakes her husband up with a sexual act, she's committed a felony. That's insane. I might actually go out and buy her some flowers for something like that, if that happened to me, but they could technically put her in jail, not that they would care if it were female doing it to a male.
Another alternative to the domestic violence process they have now is that if a husband is beating his wife up, then her family can come beat him up, and if it goes to court, the law allows the family mob that beats him up legal protection and considers it justified. That sounds kind of like old west justice, but it would cost the legal system money. Of course, some women don't have families or aren't connected to them, so it's not foolproof.
A realistic defense against this is to marry a decent, God-fearing woman who isn't the violent, angry type, isn't quarrelsome, and embraces the idea that she must love, respect, submit to, and obey her husband. That's a struggle for a lot of women, but if she's level-headed and believes she should, and has God's grace helping her be a godly wife, it is a whole lot better for the man in that relationship. A husband should love and honor his wife, also. It's when a couple stops doing that that they face the big marital problems.
I'd advise staying away from a woman who thinks its okay to hit a man because men are so much stronger than they are. I didn't even care for 'arm slapper' type women-- a woman who hauls off and punches or even slaps my arm after a joke. I don't know if my wife ever did that. I don't think she was an arm-slapper. If she did, I'd tell her I wasn't cool with that, to prevent a habit from forming.
Stay away from women who pick fights over nothing. Stay away from women who throw plates on the ground or knock stuff over if they are angry. I see people act like that in movies, and I think, 'Who acts like that?' I've never destroyed a piece of furniture if things didn't go my way. But some people are like that. If you are dating someone, you could ask her sister if she's ever broken something-- thrown down a plate in the kitchen, smashed the furniture. Women can do this stuff interviewing a man's family. If she does get angry, does she have self-control and still care about the people around her?
Another thing, is if a woman gets in an argument, does she intentionally say things to hurt you? That's a red flag, especially if it is too extreme. Watch out for this behavior in yourself. If you catch her doing it, confront her about it when the argument is over and she needs to reflect and determine not to do that again.
Another things to watch out for, or confront, if necessary, is saying disrespectful things about you to others. I see some couples pique at each other in public. Some couples do this in private, take a dig at each other as a form of a joke. The PUAs use 'negs' to make a woman interested. I see this in movies as part of banter back and forth. But I think it is best to avoid that as a relationship dynamic altogether. If you have a problem with your partner, discuss it calmly and respectfully in a way that shows care for your partner's feelings, and train your woman to do the same thing. And don't let it come out as passive aggressive digs, especially in public. If my wife inadvertently says something I consider critical or disrespectful in front of others, I confront her about it. I've said things about my wife that I thought nothing of, but that bothered her, and she tells me.
My wife isn't a male buddy to watch football games with. Sometimes men tease each other, if they are peers. I worked on construction sites as a young man. There was a construction worker who lost a testicle-- cancer, I think. Another construction worker, who actually seemed to like him and get along with him said, "Hey, one nut!" when he saw him. Men can be a bit harsh with their teasing. I don't want that kind of dynamic with my wife. I don't want that movie-trope antagonism that may have started with the book 'Pride and Prejudice' where the couple act like they don't like each other until they confess their love and passion. I didn't have that with my wife when we were dating. It took us a while to confess our feelings for each other, but we weren't in a tense situation of not getting along, or of being at odds with each other.
I suspect a lot of these domestic violence situations are situations where a man is dealing with a very difficult woman. She might actually hit him until he defends himself and is jailed for it. Or she might try to be in charge, demean, control, etc.-- behaving badly until he snaps. Some men may just be bullies and monsters who just dominate and beat up their wives or girlfriends. But I suspect a lot of them are goaded into the violence by women with warped minds and personalities.
If you are a decent man and you find a decent woman, and exercise self-control, IMO, you can avoid a lot of these issues.
I also didn't see anything about prison rape in there.
In at least one US state, they do have misdemeanor domestic violence assault charges. Not every state just believes the woman, throws the man in jail, takes away the kids if the woman won't press charges, etc. I'm not saying that doesn't happen in some places and in some extreme cases.
I saw an 1800's NC Supreme Court ruling on a domestic violence case where the court made decisions along the lines that marriage was something ordained by God that they couldn't intrude too far into.
I'm not sure where the right place to draw the line is. I understand the marital rape laws. On the other hand, why is a woman denying her husband sex in the first place? If she's not sore, having her period, etc., sex is a marital right, duty, etc. In some states, if a wife wakes her husband up with a sexual act, she's committed a felony. That's insane. I might actually go out and buy her some flowers for something like that, if that happened to me, but they could technically put her in jail, not that they would care if it were female doing it to a male.
Another alternative to the domestic violence process they have now is that if a husband is beating his wife up, then her family can come beat him up, and if it goes to court, the law allows the family mob that beats him up legal protection and considers it justified. That sounds kind of like old west justice, but it would cost the legal system money. Of course, some women don't have families or aren't connected to them, so it's not foolproof.
A realistic defense against this is to marry a decent, God-fearing woman who isn't the violent, angry type, isn't quarrelsome, and embraces the idea that she must love, respect, submit to, and obey her husband. That's a struggle for a lot of women, but if she's level-headed and believes she should, and has God's grace helping her be a godly wife, it is a whole lot better for the man in that relationship. A husband should love and honor his wife, also. It's when a couple stops doing that that they face the big marital problems.
I'd advise staying away from a woman who thinks its okay to hit a man because men are so much stronger than they are. I didn't even care for 'arm slapper' type women-- a woman who hauls off and punches or even slaps my arm after a joke. I don't know if my wife ever did that. I don't think she was an arm-slapper. If she did, I'd tell her I wasn't cool with that, to prevent a habit from forming.
Stay away from women who pick fights over nothing. Stay away from women who throw plates on the ground or knock stuff over if they are angry. I see people act like that in movies, and I think, 'Who acts like that?' I've never destroyed a piece of furniture if things didn't go my way. But some people are like that. If you are dating someone, you could ask her sister if she's ever broken something-- thrown down a plate in the kitchen, smashed the furniture. Women can do this stuff interviewing a man's family. If she does get angry, does she have self-control and still care about the people around her?
Another thing, is if a woman gets in an argument, does she intentionally say things to hurt you? That's a red flag, especially if it is too extreme. Watch out for this behavior in yourself. If you catch her doing it, confront her about it when the argument is over and she needs to reflect and determine not to do that again.
Another things to watch out for, or confront, if necessary, is saying disrespectful things about you to others. I see some couples pique at each other in public. Some couples do this in private, take a dig at each other as a form of a joke. The PUAs use 'negs' to make a woman interested. I see this in movies as part of banter back and forth. But I think it is best to avoid that as a relationship dynamic altogether. If you have a problem with your partner, discuss it calmly and respectfully in a way that shows care for your partner's feelings, and train your woman to do the same thing. And don't let it come out as passive aggressive digs, especially in public. If my wife inadvertently says something I consider critical or disrespectful in front of others, I confront her about it. I've said things about my wife that I thought nothing of, but that bothered her, and she tells me.
My wife isn't a male buddy to watch football games with. Sometimes men tease each other, if they are peers. I worked on construction sites as a young man. There was a construction worker who lost a testicle-- cancer, I think. Another construction worker, who actually seemed to like him and get along with him said, "Hey, one nut!" when he saw him. Men can be a bit harsh with their teasing. I don't want that kind of dynamic with my wife. I don't want that movie-trope antagonism that may have started with the book 'Pride and Prejudice' where the couple act like they don't like each other until they confess their love and passion. I didn't have that with my wife when we were dating. It took us a while to confess our feelings for each other, but we weren't in a tense situation of not getting along, or of being at odds with each other.
I suspect a lot of these domestic violence situations are situations where a man is dealing with a very difficult woman. She might actually hit him until he defends himself and is jailed for it. Or she might try to be in charge, demean, control, etc.-- behaving badly until he snaps. Some men may just be bullies and monsters who just dominate and beat up their wives or girlfriends. But I suspect a lot of them are goaded into the violence by women with warped minds and personalities.
If you are a decent man and you find a decent woman, and exercise self-control, IMO, you can avoid a lot of these issues.
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